Ion vs Phoenix

Originally posted by starlock
phoenix rachel is battling cable and he destroyed a wall of some sort which fell on her and he thought she was taken care of but she said she jumped 10 seconds into the future to evade it,sorry got to go work is over

Ion can travel outside of time and its nto a blast its a rift, he can stay outside of time and make them open where-ever and when ever he wants.

He has the same powers as Parallax and more. Read Zero Hour, it will help you.

Is Phoenix Fanboyism covered under medical insurance? If not we should all get together and help pay for their therapy.

BTW Onslaught has beaten Jean with Phoenix Force

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
BTW Onslaught has beaten Jean with Phoenix Force

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
BTW Onslaught has beaten Jean with Phoenix Force

THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH!!!!!

Originally posted by Ext@nt
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH!!!!!

Originally posted by manorastroman
for at least those three panels, beyonder is under rachel's control. how can you deny that?

😆

Dude, it was Beyonder that GAVE her that Power,

Power enough to KILL Him.

"I offer you a choice, Phoenix...you may SLAY me"

"I herewith grant YOU SUFFICIENT Power to do so"

Come on friend.... 😎

we'll have to agree to disagree. when i see beyonder not in control, i say he got overpowered. when i see phoenix get killed off-panel by wolverine in an alternate universe, i call it bullshit.

on another note, i don't understand why official, marvel written bios are so frowned upon. in alot of ways they're superior to on-panel: no writers mucking up consistency and continuity, up-to-date information, and an idea of powerlevel and purpose that doesn't require retarded plots to spell out.

Originally posted by manorastroman
we'll have to agree to disagree. when i see beyonder not in control, i say he got overpowered. when i see phoenix get killed off-panel by wolverine in an alternate universe, i call it bullshit.

on another note, i don't understand why official, marvel written bios are so frowned upon. in alot of ways they're superior to on-panel: no writers mucking up consistency and continuity, up-to-date information, and an idea of powerlevel and purpose that doesn't require retarded plots to spell out.

I call it realitisc, Why can't Phoenix Fanboys realize that no matter how powerfull she may be her physical form is quite vulnerable.

probably her durability feats, forcefield, and resurrection/healing capabilities.

She was stabbed to death by Wolverine,
She was vaporized by a laser turret on the moon,
She was wounded by blasts from starships,
Xorn gave her a stroke,
Onslaught crushed it in his hand.

Ion makes an entorpy rift and erases her, and does it every time she comes back.

one of those is off-panel AU and two of those are very, very easily explained.

for the onslaught thing, i'll reserve judgment. got scans?

i don't think anybody's arguing the entropy rift thing, so take the hint and SHUT UP ABOUT IT.

nice umpteenth repost.

Originally posted by manorastroman
one of those is off-panel AU and two of those are very, very easily explained.

for the onslaught thing, i'll reserve judgment. got scans?

i don't think anybody's arguing the entropy rift thing, so take the hint and SHUT UP ABOUT IT.

nice umpteenth repost.

Originally posted by manorastroman
one of those is off-panel AU and two of those are very, very easily explained.

for the onslaught thing, i'll reserve judgment. got scans?

i don't think anybody's arguing the entropy rift thing, so take the hint and SHUT UP ABOUT IT.

nice umpteenth repost.

Good then you admit he can use the entropy rifts to send her bird a$$ all the way back to fanboyismland where she came from.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Good then you admit he can use the entropy rifts to send her bird a$$ all the way back to fanboyismland where she came from.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
This is the end of the debate
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so he just grabbed jean grey and threw her? that's what's killing the debate (which doesn't exist, seeing as only GS and that one random new guy are arguing for phoenix)? that costume was one of the weakest jean grey's too. man, you've got to try harder than that. it's not like jean ALWAYS has high access to the phoenix. and doesn't onslaught have nate and franklin? iirc, he doesn't start refering to himself as a god until then.

and who claimed phoenix force was universal at best? that's patently untrue, seeing as multiple universes can materialize in the white hot room, and be affected by multiple hosts. moreover, there are phoenix hosts in several alternate dimensions.

how does that NOT qualify the force as a multiversal entity?

and DAMN extant, i don't need to admit that, though i already have THREE TIMES. the outcome of this fight has never been a question in my mind. no wonder you leave the debating to mr. master, you can't read.

If you admit he would take her 10/10, then why do you continue to debate? Fanboy bird loses hands down.

i'm not debating phoenix v ion, i'm debating phoenix v the rabid, mostly unfounded phoenix hate.

what fanboys do you speak of? do me a favor and list them, so i can see how many people it takes to justify your haterade ways.

Originally posted by manorastroman
i'm not debating phoenix v ion, i'm debating phoenix v the rabid, mostly unfounded phoenix hate.

what fanboys do you speak of? do me a favor and list them, so i can see how many people it takes to justify your haterade ways.

Oh I think you can tell them easily enough, Symptoms include, ignoring logic, scans, feats and any other form of evidence.

We dont hate the Phoenix we hate fanboys who cant accept shes not as great as you think she is.

it's cool to avoid my simple request and all, but name them. please, try to name ONE besides GS.