Free Will and Religion

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
At least that answer was honest.

I was just saying, if you have the power to choose what world to go into, why would you intentionally travel to Hell ?

Good point, I have spent a life time there. However, these days I have a lot more control and can go where I want to most of the time. What I don't do is blame someone else when I find myself in hell of anger, it is all my fault.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Are you religious?

Not as much as I'd like.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Do you believe in free will?

Yes.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
How do you incorporate this free will paradox into your belief system?

I do whatever the hell I want.

Sounds logical.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
...I always tell people that the path to hell is well warn and I have a condo there.

lol. Is your condo on the west side of hell or on the east side. If it's on the west side then YOU are the noisey neighbor I threw rocks at the other day.

Originally posted by Darth Oblivion
lol. Is your condo on the west side of hell or on the east side. If it's on the west side then YOU are the noisey neighbor I threw rocks at the other day.

😆 Stop throwing rocks! 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😆 Stop throwing rocks! 😉

I'm the one who left all the white spots...sorry.... 😮

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I'm the one who left all the white spots...sorry.... 😮

And you should be... 😘

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And you should be... 😘

Just use some urine gone and all the stains and DNA will be cleaned off

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Just use some [b]urine gone and all the stains and DNA will be cleaned off [/B]

You have white urine? (mine is clear -> yellow)

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
This has been touched upon in other threads, but I don't know whether there's actually a thread with this as the primary topic.

Free will is the ability to make choices under your own discretion.
Many major (particularly monotheistic) religions are denoted by gods whom have omniscience, omnipotence and infallibility.
Under the premise of such a god, time is preordained, meaning all choices are preordained.
Such belief systems therefore logically preclude free will.

Are you religious? Do you believe in free will? How do you incorporate this free will paradox into your belief system?

But under a higher being that knows the outcome of all that we shall ever do, then that would mean that our lives only have one foreseeable outcome, and hence we would not have true free will if our lives had already been planned out by something greater then ourselves.

It's a paradoxical subject in my opinion, it's just another one of those topics that come down to what we individually believe to be true.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You have white urine? (mine is clear -> yellow)

Urine Gone gets rid of urine stains, blood stains, semen stains, grass stains, saliva stains, and cream stains

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
[b]Urine Gone gets rid of urine stains, blood stains, semen stains, grass stains, saliva stains, and cream stains [/B]

I see.

But does it get to choose what stains it removes?

Please move along from the personal hygiene issues.

Originally posted by Storm
Please move along from the personal hygiene issues.

😆

😆 😆 😆 lol 😆 😆 😆

Well this has come up again in another thread so I thought that I would find one of these and bring them back.

I look at it this way, if God is truly all knowing and all seeing and is the beginning and the end he would know all that was, is and will be meaning no matter what choice you make God already knows that you have done it. So he puts you on the Earth to make choices, you don’t know what you are going to make but he already does because he is in the past and the future at the same time so it doesn’t make a bit of difference what you do because he already knows before you do.

Now if he doesn’t know and we do have free will than he is not all powerful, all knowing and all seeing and is flawed so why would someone like that need to be worshiped as a god, respected as a higher life form maybe but not as the God written in text.

Does God being omniscient impair your free will?

I don't see how it does. Free will is the act of choosing your own destiny. God knowing your decision shouldn't mean you don't have free will.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Does God being omniscient impair your free will?

I don't see how it does. Free will is the act of choosing your own destiny. God knowing your decision shouldn't mean you don't have free will.

God is not omniscient.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Does God being omniscient impair your free will?

I don't see how it does. Free will is the act of choosing your own destiny. God knowing your decision shouldn't mean you don't have free will.

If God (or anyone) can see the future, then that means the future is already pre-determined, with one fixed outcome.

If there is only one fixed outcome, then there are not other options or choices.

If there are no other options or choices, then there is no true "free will."

If God (or anyone) can see the future, then that means the future is already pre-determined, with one fixed outcome.

How can you know this? How can you know there are not several possible futures?

Just because God knows what you will do doesn't mean you can only do one thing.