Originally posted by peejayd
* i beg to disagree..."This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
Who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."
I Timothy 2:3-4
* upon salvation also comes the knowledge of truth...
* our belief or faith is a part or fraction on why we should be saved... another part of salvation is good works...
"For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead."
James 2:26
* good works are very essential... in faith, we need to add so much things, not faith alone...
"But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge,
To knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness,
To godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love .
For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ."
II Peter 1:5-8
* the doctrine of Trinity is unbiblical, the passage I John 5:7 is really not in the original manuscript, why? because it contradicts Jesus' statement...
"I and the Father are one ."
John 10:30
* according to Jesus Himself, it is only He and the Father who are one... He should've included the Holy Spirit here if I John 5:7 will be accepted...
* and according also to Jesus, the Father is greater than He (Jesus), and He (Jesus) is greater than the Holy Spirit... so the doctrine of Trinity by which all Three of them are equal in power and authority is utterly destroyed in this concept... 😉
Peejayd, with all due respect you are the only person that I know that can be shown an abundance of Scriptures on a subject and still continue to hold to a position even if that stance has been clarified and explained numerous times in the company of other Scriptures. 1 John 5:7 is scriptural and included in the original manuscripts (the textus receptus) from which the King James or Authorized Version was translated. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one God (one nature and essence yet distinct Persons, all co-equal in power, understanding, and ubiquity). You choose to ignore what the Word says in light of a preponderance of other Scriptures on a given subject. Jesus only said that the Father was greater while He walked the earth. Now that the Lord Jesus has been reinstated to the glory that He shared with the Father before the world was, He is everything that the Father is in every way. There is no superiority among the Godhead because each Person is God. I have shown you that Jesus is God from a plethora of Scriptures and yet you lower Jesus by referring to Him as "a" God instead of as "the Almighty" (Whom Jesus Christ revealed that He is from His own mouth). Jesus was not talking about the Holy Spirit so there was no need to say that He, His Father, and the Holy Spirit are one. The Father is called God, Jesus is called God, and the Holy Spirit is called God.
Colossians 2:2
that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, and attaining to all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the knowledge of the mystery of God, both of the Father and of Christ,
In this passage of Scripture both the Father and Christ are called God.
1 John 5:20
And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.
The Father God is nowhere mentioned in this verse. The Son of God (Jesus Christ) is the subject and antecedent in this verse. Jesus Christ is Him Who is true, and Jesus Christ is the true God and eternal life. Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life...." Jesus Christ said in another place, "I am...the Life...."
Acts 5:3-4
But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”
Lying to the Holy Spirit is lying to God because the Holy Spirit is God.
Our works are the fruit of our salvation and not the source of it. I have already explained what James 2:18 means. Faith must be evinced by corresponding actions (not in the sense of doing works to be saved though because the Bible reveals that by grace we are saved through faith, not of ourselves i.e. not of our own good morals or effort, it is the gift of God, lest anyone should boast. For example, if I say that I believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins then my corresponding action should be that I verbally confess Jesus Christ as Lord and believe in my heart that God has raised Him from the dead. We already know from studying other Scriptures on the subject of works that we are not saved by our works. So that should never come up in your consciousness in terms of our works being the basis for our salvation. So just through process of elimination you should realize that James is not talking about works done to attain salvation. Salvation is a gift and it is received by faith: this is what the Bible teaches. Remember we must rightly divide the Word of Truth.