Jehovah, Jesus and Idolatry...

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
[b]This is where I draw the line....

It's official. You are a total nutcase...not only have you proven to be rather willfully ignorant of concrete facts and defiant of logic, but you have also CONFIRMED your delusional state of mind with this sorry excuse for a post.

JIA...please stop talking. You are giving Christianity a HORRIBLE horrible reputation...actually, you're just making an already critisized religion even more unappealing. 😘 [/B]

* that is basically my point... 😉

I'm on feceman's side on these arguements between peejay and JIA.

Originally posted by peejayd
* being the Only Begotten Son of God, i believe that Christ is a true God...

* that is YOUR interpretation... the Bible did not say that the Holy Spirit is NOT God... it only says that Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit, and he did not lie to men but to God...

"And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption."
Ephesians 4:30

* the Holy Spirit is NOT God but of God...

"And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, by what they had done.
And the sea gave up the dead in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had done."
Revelation 20:12-13

* everyone will be judged according to what they have done... you just misinterpreted what Saint Paul had written... he himself even wrote in his other epistles that Christians are fully equipped and thoroughly furnished to do good works... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* being the Only Begotten Son of God, i believe that Christ is a true God...

You cannot substantiate this by the Bible so you are in error. See this thread Biblical God, physical body or merely a spirit? I answered all of these questions.

* that is YOUR interpretation... the Bible did not say that the Holy Spirit is NOT God... it only says that Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit, and he did not lie to men but to God...

"And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption."
Ephesians 4:30

* the Holy Spirit is NOT God but of God...

You cannot substantiate this by the Bible so you are in error. See this thread Biblical God, physical body or merely a spirit? I answered all of these questions.

"And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, by what they had done.
And the sea gave up the dead in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had done."
Revelation 20:12-13

* everyone will be judged according to what they have done... you just misinterpreted what Saint Paul had written... he himself even wrote in his other epistles that Christians are fully equipped and thoroughly furnished to do good works... 😉

I have already answered what this means and why do you keep on quoting Scriptures that I haved quoted first? You take these same Scriptures that I have quoted and explained to make it appeat that I am the one disputing this truth when in reality you are the one who is in error. You cannot substantiate this by the Bible so you are in error. See this thread Biblical God, physical body or merely a spirit? I answered all of these questions.

Originally posted by peejayd
* which is? your reply meant nothing... still, the Holy Spirit is not included in the declaration of Christ in John 10:30...

* even when Jesus was on earth, He is still a God that's why He accepts worship...

"For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily,"
Colossians 2:9

* the fullness of deity or the fullness of Godhead dwells in Jesus bodily... so, even when He was here on earth, Jesus is still a God... and He said that the Father is greater than Him... simple as that...

* so you just admitted your term "Trinity" is unbiblical... thank you... the Bible teaches us of the Godhead and NOT the Trinity...

* may be the Holy Spirit do not dwell in me, huh? a very typical fake Christian - always judgmental...

* i don't have a problem about God's proclamations, it is absolute... the problem is your analysis... you claim the Holy Spirit dwells in you, how come you overlook the essence of the Bible? there is something God does not know, and that is the decision we will make...

* Jesus knows He would be betrayed by one of His apostles but at first, when He called the Twelve, He does not know who is the betrayer... Jesus had known it was Judas when he was stealing money from their contributions and Satan entered in his heart...

"And he appointed twelve, to be with him, and to be sent out to preach
And have authority to cast out demons
:
Simon whom he surnamed Peter;
James the son of Zeb'edee and John the brother of James, whom he surnamed Bo-aner'ges, that is, sons of thunder;
Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus, and Simon the Cananaean,
And Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him. Then he went home;"
Mark 3:14-19

* remember that the Twelve, of course including Judas Iscariot, was given the power to cast out demons... if Jesus already knew this, He should not have appointed Judas in the first place... plus, Judas could not have the power to cast out demons if he was the betrayer even before he was called by Jesus...

* maybe you overlooked this one too...

"Again they tried to arrest him, but he escaped from their hands."
John 10:39

* i agree that God and Christ knew what would happened to Christ here on earth...

"Then Jesus, knowing all that was to befall him, came forward and said to them, Whom do you seek?"
John 18:4

* my point is when the decision of man... God does not know the decision of man not until it came into the man's heart... that is the reason why God tests man...

* that is not my point... i believe in God's foreknowledge...

* your analysis is a great misinterpretation... God should not have sent prophets in the first place if Christ Himself will be sent later on... you provide no sense of logic... the parable presents great illustrations on how the Son was not part of the plan... the Father does not want His Only Begotten Son to be hurt, the sending of Christ is the last ditch effort to save mankind...

* i think not... your view of the Scriptures is unsound and illogical... 😉

* which is? your reply meant nothing... still, the Holy Spirit is not included in the declaration of Christ in John 10:30...

But that is irrelevant He is still God.

* even when Jesus was on earth, He is still a God that's why He accepts worship...

You cannot substantiate this by the Bible so you are in error. See this thread Biblical God, physical body or merely a spirit? I answered all of these questions.

"For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily,"
Colossians 2:9

* the fullness of deity or the fullness of Godhead dwells in Jesus bodily... so, even when He was here on earth, Jesus is still a God... and He said that the Father is greater than Him... simple as that...

Jesus is God not "a" God. Re-read my posts.

You cannot substantiate this by the Bible so you are in error. See this thread Biblical God, physical body or merely a spirit? I answered all of these questions.

* so you just admitted your term "Trinity" is unbiblical... thank you... the Bible teaches us of the Godhead and NOT the Trinity...

You seem to extract what you want to from my posts. That is not what I said:

I never said that the word Trinity was in the Bible did I? But I believe that the truth of the unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is in the Bible. I believe that the Bible teaches that they are one God and that they are co-equal in every way.

* may be the Holy Spirit do not dwell in me, huh? a very typical fake Christian - always judgmental...

I said that because you have a spiritual deficiency peejayd not to put you down. You cannot even rightly divide the Word of Truth. I have come to this assessment about you over time. This accounts for why I believe you are incapable of understanding basic Biblical truths.

* i don't have a problem about God's proclamations, it is absolute... the problem is your analysis... you claim the Holy Spirit dwells in you, how come you overlook the essence of the Bible? there is something God does not know, and that is the decision we will make...

I told you, just like a revolving door you continue to rehash the same information over and over in the face of Scriptures that clearly contradict what you say.

* Jesus knows He would be betrayed by one of His apostles but at first, when He called the Twelve, He does not know who is the betrayer... Jesus had known it was Judas when he was stealing money from their contributions and Satan entered in his heart...

[COLOR=darkblue]Jesus knew He just had not disclosed to His disciples who He was yet (it was not time) Jesus still had 3 1/2 years of ministry to complete. But when the time came boom Jesus Christ exposed Judas Iscariot. Remember Jesus knew all men and He knew what was in man.

"And he appointed twelve, to be with him, and to be sent out to preach
And have authority to cast out demons
:
Simon whom he surnamed Peter;
James the son of Zeb'edee and John the brother of James, whom he surnamed Bo-aner'ges, that is, sons of thunder;
Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus, and Simon the Cananaean,
And Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him. Then he went home;"
Mark 3:14-19

* remember that the Twelve, of course including Judas Iscariot, was given the power to cast out demons... if Jesus already knew this, He should not have appointed Judas in the first place... plus, Judas could not have the power to cast out demons if he was the betrayer even before he was called by Jesus...

Your problem is that you keep trying to find fault with God saying that He should have done this or that. You are not God peejayd so you don't reserve the right to say what God should have done. This is another one of your shortcomings and flaws.

* maybe you overlooked this one too...

"Again they tried to arrest him, but he escaped from their hands."
John 10:39

Jesus was able to escape from their hands because it was not His time. Jesus said it Himself that He taught daily in the temple and in secret said nothing. Jesus said out of His own mouth that they did not try to seize Him (Luke 22:53).

* i agree that God and Christ knew what would happened to Christ here on earth...

"Then Jesus, knowing all that was to befall him, came forward and said to them, Whom do you seek?"
John 18:4

* my point is when the decision of man... God does not know the decision of man not until it came into the man's heart... that is the reason why God tests man...

I have already provided a plethora of Scriptures that refute this erroneous statement.

You cannot substantiate this by the Bible so you are in error. See this thread Biblical God, physical body or merely a spirit? I answered all of these questions.

* that is not my point... i believe in God's foreknowledge...

Good.

* your analysis is a great misinterpretation... God should not have sent prophets in the first place if Christ Himself will be sent later on... you provide no sense of logic... the parable presents great illustrations on how the Son was not part of the plan... the Father does not want His Only Begotten Son to be hurt, the sending of Christ is the last ditch effort to save mankind...

There you go again trying to tell God what He should and should not have done. This is what got satan kicked out of Third Heaven. Wrong, wrong the Bible contradicts you.

You cannot substantiate this by the Bible so you are in error. See this thread Biblical God, physical body or merely a spirit? I answered all of these questions.

* i think not... your view of the Scriptures is unsound and illogical... 😉

You are entitled to your own opinion of me even if it is egregiously false.

Originally posted by peejayd
* that is basically my point... 😉

😆

Peejayd, I'm sorry you have people like JIA hurting the reputation of your Faith.

It's kind of like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy making everyone assume that I'm queeny before they even get to know me

Originally posted by crazy
I'm on feceman's side on these arguements between peejay and JIA.
Kinda like some older posters Clickclick and Jury........I remember them going at it forever.

you know what we do to the jehovas here where i live... We put up signs on our front doors that say "NO JEHOVAS" and do some pranks on their Community house 😆

I wonder in bed instead of saying "OH GOD", they say, "OH JEHOVA!"...

I know........me bad. 😮

Originally posted by debbiejo
I wonder in bed instead of saying "OH GOD", they say, "OH JEHOVA!"...

I know........me bad. 😮

Having some dirty thoughs there ?!?!? 😈

Nope...........My mind just wanders sometimes........

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
😆

Peejayd, I'm sorry you have people like JIA hurting the reputation of your Faith.

It's kind of like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy making everyone assume that I'm queeny before they even get to know me

* not much of hurting the reputation of my faith, it's not a problem... i'm just trying to correct him Biblically...

* here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=426574&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=3 he claims that he is already saved 😱 and is on his way to heaven 😱 and i corrected him Biblically because nobody now is saved yet and nobody is in heaven yet... 😉

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive But that is irrelevant He is still God.

* and is not Biblical...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive You seem to extract what you want to from my posts. That is not what I said:

I never said that the word Trinity was in the Bible did I? But I believe that the truth of the unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is in the Bible. I believe that the Bible teaches that they are one God and that they are co-equal in every way.

* i also believe in the unity of the Father, Christ and the Holy Spirit but unlike you, i don't give unnecessary and untoward self-conclusions... the Bible also teaches one God but clears up who is this one God...

"Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist."
I Corinthians 8:6

* and the Bible also teaches us that the Father is greater than Christ... and Christ is greater than the Holy Spirit... in fact, Christ said that the Father is greater than all...

"My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand."
John 10:29

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive Jesus knew He just had not disclosed to His disciples who He was yet (it was not time) Jesus still had 3 1/2 years of ministry to complete. But when the time came boom Jesus Christ exposed Judas Iscariot. Remember Jesus knew all men and He knew what was in man.

* nope, Judas Iscariot was not destined to betray Jesus... all people are desired by God to be saved... there will be a betrayal in Jesus' ministry but no one knows who is the betrayer not until Satan took over Judas' heart...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive Your problem is that you keep trying to find fault with God saying that He should have done this or that. You are not God peejayd so you don't reserve the right to say what God should have done. This is another one of your shortcomings and flaws.

* nope, i'm not finding fault in God... you just don't understand my point... admit it...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive There you go again trying to tell God what He should and should not have done. This is what got satan kicked out of Third Heaven. Wrong, wrong the Bible contradicts you.

* nope, don't you understand a word i say? having trouble of reading? here, i'll repeat my post...

* your analysis is a great misinterpretation... God should not have sent prophets in the first place if Christ Himself will be sent later on... you provide no sense of logic... the parable presents great illustrations on how the Son was not part of the plan... the Father does not want His Only Begotten Son to be hurt, the sending of Christ is the last ditch effort to save mankind...

* i'm not telling God what He should do or not... i'm telling you how God sent His Son, Jesus for the world... it was not part of the plan because if so, He should have sent Jesus in the first place and not prophets... hello? logic knocking at your door... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* not much of hurting the reputation of my faith, it's not a problem... i'm just trying to correct him Biblically...

* here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=426574&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=3 he claims that he is already saved 😱 and is on his way to heaven 😱 and i corrected him Biblically because nobody now is saved yet and nobody is in heaven yet... 😉

I know he is so egotistical.