What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?

Originally posted by Scoobless

Elektra is not superhuman in ragards to her physical abilities.

According to her feats, she would most deffiently be superhuman

Recently in Manifest Destiny he effortlessly dodged bullets from highly trained marksmen.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Finally, a comic that points out the obvious (or what should be obvious anyway)

Why is it obvious?

Originally posted by Scoobless

Elektra is as fast as Street level gets before you hit physically enhanced characters.

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"bump" btw.

Im sorry thats just not conclusive. Characters powers are not always shown consistently and you often get different interpretations of it. Cap has implied he can see bullets, we have also seen him run faster than bullets both Cap and Elektra have been descrbed as being peak human.

Originally posted by Scoobless

There is a great misconception amongst many KMC members over who exactly can and cannot "dodge bullets"

Characters such as DareDevil, Wolverine, Batman, Captain America, etc, etc... all have managed to fool people into believing that they can "dodge" bullets... this is simply not possible..

You are trying to use real world physics to disprove a comic book feat, lets establish that for a second.

ok im done.

And to comment on the whole, i guess im an idiot, i would include Gambit and cassandra cain in the short list you gave above, Gambit has swated bullets out of the air, that counts as having the ability to dodge, and cassy cain has stod in a stationary position and doged multiple handgun rounds moving seemingly matrix style. Comic book characters can dodge bullets. You are also forgetting that bullets move at 1/4 speed in comic books 😛

Originally posted by Juk3n
You are trying to use real world physics to disprove a comic book feat, lets establish that for a second.

This is what I keep telling people when they come up with shit like "This dont make any sense", forgot about wether it makes any sense see how consistent the feats are done.

You cant start deciding what makes sense when the very existance of the universe and characters dont make any sense themselves.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Cap has implied he can see bullets, we have also seen him run faster than bullets

Would it be rude if I laughed at how retarded that sounds?

Originally posted by Scoobless
Would it be rude if I laughed at how retarded that sounds?

It is also retarded AND crazy that a huge green man in purple indestructable pants runs around going ape shit cos some chick called betty gets a god damn splinter. But it is not the real world, can't you accept that in comics..

crazy shit just happens?

Originally posted by Scoobless
Would it be rude if I laughed at how retarded that sounds?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

You cant start deciding what makes sense when the very existance of the universe and characters dont make any sense themselves.

Reed and Doom have invented time machines in the past.

I suppose someone should let marvel know that it simply isn't possible in the real world.

Also, Bruce Banner should have cancer, not super powers. That's gonna be a pretty huge retcon when marvel finds out.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Reed and Doom have invented time machines in the past.

I suppose someone should let marvel know that it simply isn't possible in the real world.

Also, Bruce Banner should have cancer, not super powers. That's gonna be a pretty huge retcon when marvel finds out.

It's all happening in the imagination of an autistic kid.

swooosh!!! over everyone's head...nobody is cool and saavy enough to get that reference..other than me of course😖hifty:

Originally posted by manjaro
swooosh!!! over everyone's head...nobody is cool and saavy enough to get that reference..other than me of course😖hifty:

Swooosh?? Apparently the reference is a basketball in this particular analogy.

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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I cans quote meself

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These characters are clearly set to exist on an Earth where absurd "super powers" are possible, but it's still a mirror of our own earth with all other basic laws and realities present.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Reed and Doom have invented time machines in the past.

I suppose someone should let marvel know that it simply isn't possible in the real world.

"isn't possible" ... just like walking on the moon? flying? travelling over 30mph? creating fire?

Just because you haven't seen something yet doesn't mean it can't happen tomorrow, or 10 years from now (or ever)

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Also, Bruce Banner should have cancer, not super powers. That's gonna be a pretty huge retcon when marvel finds out.

Cancer? he was caught in an Atomic explosion! ... he should be dust in the wind.

Suspension of disbelief does not cover every single aspect of a science fiction reality, it only covers what it sets out to cover.

Banner + "gamma" bomb = Hulk

Steve Rogers + SS Serum = Captain America = slightly better stats than ever recorded by a real live human .... NOT "running faster than bullets"

Originally posted by Scoobless
Steve Rogers + SS Serum = Captain America = slightly better stats than ever recorded by a real live human .... NOT "running faster than bullets"

Unless, ya know, it does.

Originally posted by Scoobless

Steve Rogers + SS Serum = Captain America = slightly better stats than ever recorded by a real live human .... NOT "running faster than bullets"

The powers are what the writers dictate them to be, and the feats are what the writers intend and write. Not what would make sense.

Originally posted by Scoobless
That statement doesn't make any sense.

If a rifle can fire a bullet at over 2,000 miles per hour, 1 inch from Spidey's chest and he isn't allowed to move until the bullet is in motion, he's getting hit, no question about it.

If he's a reasonable distance away then he has a few instants to react and could move/twist his body just enough to avoid being hit.

It's definitely not about being "faster" than a bullet, because 95%* of comic characters aren't.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7329/feat42speedmw3.jpg

He didn't move at all until it was only a couple of feet away from him.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/558/feat8speedng9.jpg

Spiderman didn't launch any webbing until after the bullet was fired, he did it fast enough so that his webbing traveled the distance and hit the gun before the bullet could even leave the chamber. Again, faster reflexes then a bulelt, and his spider sense didnt go off until after the bullet was fired.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1697/feat16speedrm0.jpg

Bullets fired first. Spidersense goes off second, Peter still moves fast enough to avoid it.

this is a comic book, something "not making sense" doesn't actually... matter at all. As far as the comic book universe is concerned Spiderman has faster reflexes then bullets and Superman can fly from our solar system to the next in a few minutes despite the closest sun being light-years away. its a comic book. im not really sure why youd even bother breaking out real world mechanics to be honest.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7329/feat42speedmw3.jpg

He didn't move at all until it was only a couple of feet away from him.

There's no way of knowing how far away it was, and I've always admitted Spider-Man was way faster than humanly possible.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/558/feat8speedng9.jpg

Spiderman didn't launch any webbing until after the bullet was fired

You're wrong there ... if the bullet had "already been fired" then the "boom" would have come before the webbing was shot (due to the fact the explosion is what actually propels the bullet)

Also, I have no idea how fast webbing moves when it leaves his wrist/webshooter ... be interesting to find out.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1697/feat16speedrm0.jpg

Bullets fired first. Spidersense goes off second, Peter still moves fast enough to avoid it.

Again, no way to know the distance involved, though it must have been fairly far for the shooter to be using a telescopic lens to target them.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
this is a comic book, something "not making sense" doesn't actually... matter

If you really believed that you wouldn't be arguing your point ... or any point ... on any comic debate thread ... ever.

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Originally posted by WO Polaski
Spiderman has faster reflexes then bullets

This statement still makes no sense, though that may be due more to your lack of clarity in expressing yourself rather than what you actually mean.

I take it you aren't talking about the reflexes of a bullet, and I hope you aren't suggesting that Spider-Man can move at thousands of miles per hour.

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If I can go back to the original point of the thread though, this is about characters who are not physically enhanced, Spider-Man does not fall into that category.

Originally posted by Scoobless

I take it you aren't talking about the reflexes of a bullet, and I hope you aren't suggesting that Spider-Man can move at thousands of miles per hour.

he doesnt have to, he just has to move a few inches out of the way, in a blink of an eye (which isnt that fast for someone with 15x peak human reflexes)..not that farfetched.

Originally posted by Scoobless
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These characters are clearly set to exist on an Earth where absurd "super powers" are possible, but it's still a mirror of our own earth with all other basic laws and realities present.

EPIC FAIL. Comparing the real world earth to MU earth is like comparing Earth to Jupiter. Yeah sure Jupiter is round and has an atomsphere but it still very very different.

Basic laws and realities? What like magic? Ok how about some other realities lets see we have the astral plane, microverse, negative zone and theres a dimensional portal in the Florida everglades. No my friend MU earth is very much different from the real world and not just because people have superpowers.

In Ultimate Earth 2009AD George Dubya is a pacifist Monk campaigning for Burmese orphans.