Columbine Rejects God In Favor of Darwin's Theory

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Originally posted by Marchello
*["That is what I have labored to convey to them. We proclaim Jesus not religion."]

***My dear Brother-in-Christ Jesus:

Thank you for your post...it is a joyful experience to see "one of my own brothers" proclaiming the Love of Christ to these people on this thread. I am so gratified to know that you take your faith so seriously and labor so intensely to show your love to them by your faithful witness. We must endure to the end for the appearing of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is even at the door...and the chastening of His people Israel has begun. Pray for Israel, dear brother...for they need our prayers. Continue the labor for the fields are ripe for the Harvest...and when He appears He will give us the Crown of Eternal Life.

Marchello

Thank you for your post as well. Your faithfulness and love towards those who do not know Christ (yet) is steadfast, may the Lord bless you for your faithfulness and courage in the face of hostile opposition. I already do and will continue to pray for the peace of Israel. Precious brother in Christ, let us continue to fight the good fight of faith, for we have already laid hold on eternal life as it has been made available through our Great God and Savior--the Lord Jesus Christ. For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. Yes, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. In this we greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, we have all been grieved by various trials. That the genuineness of your faith, my faith, and the faith of other beloved saints, is much more precious than gold that perishes, though it be tested by fire, may be found to praise and honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ. Whom having not seen we love. Though now we do not see Him, yet we believe, we rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, receiving the end of our faith, the salvation of our souls.

Psalm 122:6
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem:“May they prosper who love you.

1 Timothy 6:12
Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

Titus 2:13
looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

2 Timothy 3:12
Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.

1 Peter 1:6-9
In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.

Originally posted by Marchello
*["That is what I have labored to convey to them. We proclaim Jesus not religion."]

***My dear Brother-in-Christ Jesus:

Thank you for your post...it is a joyful experience to see "one of my own brothers" proclaiming the Love of Christ to these people on this thread. I am so gratified to know that you take your faith so seriously and labor so intensely to show your love to them by your faithful witness. We must endure to the end for the appearing of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is even at the door...and the chastening of His people Israel has begun. Pray for Israel, dear brother...for they need our prayers. Continue the labor for the fields are ripe for the Harvest...and when He appears He will give us the Crown of Eternal Life.

Marchello

Sounds like someone has overrun a town with children. I think Isaac has changed his name. ermm

Originally posted by Marchello
***Tis not a hard thing to do.

Oh your humor is positively Divine (read nonexistent.)

***I don't "promote" a religion...I "proclaim" a Person [Jesus Christ the Lord].

I am pleased you are able to quibble over something like that. Shocking. Your religion depends on a person - it is still a religion, a set of beliefs organised based upon a holy text.

You are promoting it. If you werent promoting it you wouldn't be presenting the case for it as you are, nor would JIA.

***I NEVER mentioned anything about "evolution and teaching it lead to social ills." You have me mixed up with someone else. Again, I NEVER mentioned ANYTHING about evolution!

Uh huh. So you go on a misguided offensive against my post where I object logically and rationally about JIA claim teaching evolution led to the school shooting yet you don't actually support his stance?

Logically people would have assumed to you supporting him. Perhaps you could have used you own style of debate on the argument he is presenting if you don't agree with it?

***That's too bad...that's the "core" of your problem...your Father [Satan] rebelled against God's "authority"...and would elevate himself above the throne of God...but your "daddy" lost that one and was cast out...just as you will be when the Lord of Lords RETURNS. You are just like your daddy...for the apple never falls far from the tree.

Dear me. You are one of those who believes that a person who doesn't agree with you is instantly a child of Satan? Well here is something to chew on - I don't believe in Satan. Nor God. Now if not believing in God automatically makes one a child of Satan I don't see how not believing in Satan still maeks one a child of him.

Besides - my father is flesh and blood and is currently at home doing paper work.

***I NEVER listen to DEAD people...they're DEAD! They "know" NOTHING...for, to them, there is "no" God...and, as such, have no moral compass and cannot differentiate between what is right and what is wrong [they call "evil" good and "good" evil]. Only a FOOL [like you] says there is "no" God.

AH WONDERFUL ARGUMENT! BRILLIANT! STUPENDOUS!

"I don't have to listen to people who disagree with me because they are dead (spiritually) - the only people I listen to are religious, and they don't disagree."

And you call me a fool? Your world view is one of the most evil things I have seen all day. The joke "a person without God is incapable of being good" is so funny it hurts.

***The fact that you've "heard it all before" confirms that you are incapable of learning anything...but, then, that is the "normal" condition of DEAD people...they have ears but they can't "hear"...they have eyes but they can't "see"...and they have a heart but it is "stone cold."

Getting funnier by the moment.

JesusIsAlive is a million times preferable to you. At least behind his preaching seems to be a genuine wish to help people.

You on the other hand are hideously judgemental and summery. You belong prosecuting people during Inquisistions:

"You are dead all ready. As the flames consume you I will pray God has mercy on your soul."

***You wouldn't know "fact" if someone hit you in the face with a cast iron skillet labeled "fact" on it. Be that as it may...I NEVER brought up the subject of "evolution"...someone else did...JIA, I believe. Take that up with him.

Where did you get your education? You attack my post, disputing what I said, yet you don't disagree with it? You didn't mention evolution but you are came off as defending a theory it was responsible for a school shooting?

Maybe you should have debated the theory JIA posted?

***I never argue about gun control.

Oh no. You don't argue. You state.

***And, of course, you do err. The "christianity" that you are alluding to, of course, is Roman Catholicism...which, in fact, is NOT Christianity at all. Too, the Inquisition was, indeed, a crime of epic proportions in which the lives of MILLIONS were lost for a pagan system "in the name of God." However, THAT SYSTEM was NOT Christianity...Catholicism is NOT equatable to Christianity.

Marchello

Um.... no I wasn't. Your ignorance is greater then I would have suspected if you somehow believe violence only occurs in Catholic religion. Christianity as a whole has violence in it. As does Islam. And all the rest - you don't seem to understand: Crime was not less while creationism was being taught. In fact it seems it was higher - not just for Catholics. But for Protestant and Methodist and all the rest.

Don't imply Catholics alone are responsible for crime.

Oh my. This has gotten out of hand.

well, you guys do realize these two are the same person, don't you?

What gives you that impression?

If you google religous issues, this site pops up...hence why I think we've been seeing a rise in nuts.

Because JIA is Whob. And now their following his ridiculous pattern of different members finding each other to agree and then verbally masturbating each other.

I don't know what's more sad. The fact that I can see the pattern, or that it exists at all.

All these people do is masturbate eachother, its the only way they can feel right in a world that is 100% against them.

Its isolating, and isolation leads to radicalism and further delision...ala North Korea.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
well, you guys do realize these two are the same person, don't you?
But socking is against Jesus! scared

Really?

Originally posted by Strangelove
But socking is against Jesus! scared

I used to jerk off into socks

thats awesome. every JIA thread topic should be changed to 'masturbation tecniques'

I'll request that the mod's change them 🙂

Originally posted by Alliance
Really?
I would assume

Originally posted by Robtard
Not directly, but it is impied.

http://newsbusters.org/node/8095

Excerpt from the story:

In light of Monday's shooting at a Pennsylvania Amish school, CBS invited Brian Rohrbough, the father of a victim of the 1999 Columbine school massacre, to speak on "freeSpeech."

Quite simply, Mr. Rohrbough delivered a powerful and thoughtful editorial. His commentary is a must-read/must-see (link (with video)). Among other things, Mr. Rohrbough said:

This country is in a moral free-fall. For over two generations, [b]the public school system has taught in a moral vacuum, expelling God from the school and from the government, replacing him with evolution, where the strong kill the weak, without moral consequences and life has no inherent value.

We teach there are no absolutes, no right or wrong. And I assure you the murder of innocent children is always wrong, including by abortion. Abortion has diminished the value of children.

Suicide has become an acceptable action and has further emboldened these criminals. And we are seeing an epidemic increase in murder-suicide attacks on our children.

Sadly, our schools are not safe ... [/B]

And that was from the father of a Columbine victim?

Perhaps JIA isn't as "crazy" as you'd like him to be.

Perhaps others (half of this country by most accounts) are conservative in values, and Christian in beliefs.

Perhaps.....

God is REAL.

Hmm... this is the religion forum after all.

If God is real, what then?

Where do all of your arguments go?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
well, you guys do realize these two are the same person, don't you?

✅ A sound theory.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Perhaps JIA isn't as "crazy" as you'd like him to be.
Not crazy? My world is crashing down around me cry

Evolution is not to blame for Columbine. The individual actions of two disturbed kids are to blame. More often than not, the blame doesn't go further than the people involved

Originally posted by Strangelove
Not crazy? My world is crashing down around me cry

Evolution is not to blame for Columbine. The individual actions of two disturbed kids are to blame. More often than not, the blame doesn't go further than the people involved

I say that using a theory as a scape goat is pathetic. And not only that, but using it in a way that will make the truth disappear denial. It might be a harsh opinion but thats how I see it.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
And that was from the father of a Columbine victim?

Perhaps JIA isn't as "crazy" as you'd like him to be.

Perhaps others (half of this country by most accounts) are conservative in values, and Christian in beliefs.

Perhaps.....

God is REAL.

Hmm... this is the religion forum after all.

If God is real, what then?

Where do all of your arguments go?

Listen, I know you're big on your faith, but JIA is beyond rationality, even for most religious people.

"God is REAL" is not an argument, its is not fact, it is not supported, especially not in a realistic sense.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
And that was from the father of a Columbine victim?

Perhaps JIA isn't as "crazy" as you'd like him to be.

Perhaps others (half of this country by most accounts) are conservative in values, and Christian in beliefs.

Perhaps.....

God is REAL.

Hmm... this is the religion forum after all.

If God is real, what then?

Where do all of your arguments go?

I know... because the shattered father of a shooting victim is of course a valid source of commentary on why exactly the shooting happened.

When the next malaria outbreak happens in Africa I am going over there to interview the poor father whose baby died as to why he think it happened and he'll give a valid lecture on disease vectors and the lack of centralised medical systems.

And maybe an car accident victim can be made talk about all the design faults inherent in the engineering theory of the new car.

Just because he lost someone doesn't actually make him an authority. In fact it means his motives and the like have to be scrutinised even more closely. It was emotional. Heart rendering. Moving - but far from accurate, and fails to take into account the actual trends in crimes, child mentality and all the rest. And like in far to many cases blame is targeted against things that aren't responsible and religious biases come out. It is one of those things that happens in grief - ones own pain and views eclipses all else. One feels that pain validates their views - religious, moral, political, artistic.

Abortion, evolution the rest - they are not responsible for what happened. And this is a rather Americanised view - evolution is taught in Australian schools. English schools. New Zealand schools. And the idea of "expelling God from the school" has had no negative impact on school safety in the schools of this nation. This seems to suggest that perhaps it is society that should be examined. Not easy to blame things like video games and evolution.