Kratos vs Sephiroth

Kadaj, Loz, Yazoo (they have some control over the NL) used the lifestream as magic in FF7 AC movie, so there is proof right there.

Silver Haired Men were created by Sephiroth out of his Negative Lifestream, he can make things out of it, just like his sword.

2. No, Jenova has shown the power to use them.

Here is a direct quote from the UOG

"Sephiroth, the New Evolution of Jenova:

Sephiroth became the newest stage of evolution for Jenova, and anything "Jenova" does in the game's present day is simply Sephiroth invoking his new powers ("the will of Jenova as a human is the result of it channeling Sephiroth's spirit"😉. When Sephiroth came into the picture, the minds of the two joined, and Sephiroth made himself the core of the viral entity that Jenova was, with his ambitions being fueled by its parasitic instincts and his desire to destroy all the humans he despised. Thus, his will manifested through Jenova's extensive psionic powers. "

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
2. Okay. I will rephrase this. A body made from Jenova. O RLY? Then wtf was Kadaj even there for if he can regen from just a friggin head? Also, if he has t3h super regen, why has he NEVER healed from a single wound in battle? What can Kratos do to harm him? Well in a physical fight overpower him and rip in half for one, and let's not forget Kratos' versatility advantage, he can turn Seph to stone in a flash and shatter Seph. Regen from that. Sure, the cells were needed to bring him back, but so was Kadaj, or at least one of the SHM, because if he did not, he should have been able to regen from just the head, but could not. If he did not transform...Then why the hell did we clearly see him do it? We saw Kadaj transform into Sephiroth.

3. Lol, Kratos has no attacks on Omnislash V. 5? The Blade of Olympus pisses on it.

To regenerate his body, Sephiroth needed to have one.
This is why he created the SHM(who are part of him). To seek Jenova cells, to seek a new physical body for him.
After Kadaj drunk the cells and Sephiroth returned to life, he didn't need the SHM anymore, because they had fulfilled their purpose. After that, the only thing he really needed were the J-cells of his new body, and his Negative Lifestream.

Why he never healed from a single wound in battle? He did more than that dude. Sephiroth regenerated his entire body from a few cells in a box. After that, he didn't need to regenerate anymore, because Cloud wasn't able to harm him during the fight(with exception of Omnislash).
If Sephiroth wanted, he could let Kratos rip him apart just for fun, and then regenerates a second later.

He can turn Seph to stone? I didn't knew status-effect worked on Seph? I could swear they didn't.

And the fact Omnislash Version 5 destroyed a guy who could regenerate his whole body in a few seconds, is proof of how powerful the attack really is.
I want to see Kratos do something like that.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Ares was his only real PIS battle.

In that case you might as well call every single boss battle in every game PIS 🙄 🙄

Originally posted by Kazenji
In that case you might as well call every single boss battle in every game PIS 🙄 🙄

Why, because every character in the history of video games managed to obtain a plot-based weapon described as being the only thing capable of giving a non-God the power to kill a God? Or because this was the only final fight where Kratos was literally given extra power to level the playing field instead of actually fighting without such a power against other bosses obviously more powerful than Ares (Kratos fought Zeus on his own with and without the Blade of Olympus, and defeated the first two Sisters of Fate simultaneously)?

Originally posted by Terryc250
Kadaj, Loz, Yazoo (they have some control over the NL) used the lifestream as magic in FF7 AC movie, so there is proof right there.

Silver Haired Men were created by Sephiroth out of his Negative Lifestream, he can make things out of it, just like his sword.

Sephiroth is Jenova, all powers of Jenova and everything it is, is Sephiroth

Here is a direct quote from the UOG

"Sephiroth, the New Evolution of Jenova:

Sephiroth became the newest stage of evolution for Jenova, and anything "Jenova" does in the game's present day is simply Sephiroth invoking his new powers ("the will of Jenova as a human is the result of it channeling Sephiroth's spirit"😉. When Sephiroth came into the picture, the minds of the two joined, and Sephiroth made himself the core of the viral entity that Jenova was, with his ambitions being fueled by its parasitic instincts and his desire to destroy all the humans he despised. Thus, his will manifested through Jenova's extensive psionic powers. "

He looks more and more like a woman in each successive game. I wonder why they make him look so feminine.

Originally posted by SHM
To regenerate his body, Sephiroth needed to have one.
This is why he created the SHM(who are part of him). To seek Jenova cells, to seek a new physical body for him.
After Kadaj drunk the cells and Sephiroth returned to life, he didn't need the SHM anymore, because they had fulfilled their purpose. After that, the only thing he really needed were the J-cells of his new body, and his Negative Lifestream.

Why he never healed from a single wound in battle? He did more than that dude. Sephiroth regenerated his entire body from a few cells in a box. After that, he didn't need to regenerate anymore, because Cloud wasn't able to harm him during the fight(with exception of Omnislash).
If Sephiroth wanted, he could let Kratos rip him apart just for fun, and then regenerates a second later.

He can turn Seph to stone? I didn't knew status-effect worked on Seph? I could swear they didn't.

And the fact Omnislash Version 5 destroyed a guy who could regenerate his whole body in a few seconds, is proof of how powerful the attack really is.
I want to see Kratos do something like that.

2. Nope, Kadaj drank some cells in a box which made Kadaj Sephiroth. Hell, on-board the airship, they were even saying that Kadaj was the chrysalis who would BECOME Sephiroth. Sephiroth has never healed from any wound. 🙂

3. Gameplay first of all, but I will concede this, he can also just use his many lightning attacks, Seph is not faster than lightning.

4. O RLY? Kadaj transformed into Sephiroth, he didn't regen from some cells in a box, canon supports this. 🙂

The Blade of Olympus, which has only gotten stronger since Kratos obtained it, in one blow defeated the Titans(whose bodies are supposed to be indestructible) and ended the Great Titan War. Kratos defeated Zeus while he was wielding the Blade of Olympus and stole it.

Oh, and before you freak out and say I'm just a Sephiroth hater who wants him to lose, I actually like Sephiroth. I just don't ride his boloni-pony. 🙂

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Or because this was the only final fight where Kratos was literally given extra power to level the playing field instead of actually fighting without such a power against other bosses obviously more powerful than Ares (Kratos fought Zeus on his own with and without the Blade of Olympus, and defeated the first two Sisters of Fate simultaneously)?

Exactly that !!

Seriously kratos was taught to fight brutal since an early age and top it off in GOW1 he finds out he needs pandora's box to beat a god and what has Ares fought......probably just the titans most likey

so all up yes it was possibly for him to beat Ares and it was'nt PIS and if you still call it PIS then him ploughing through all of Ares's army(Minotaurs, undead soldiers, cyclops's) back in athens must also be PIS and not to mention back then he was still a mortal 🙄 .

Originally posted by Kazenji
Exactly that !!

Seriously kratos was taught to fight brutal since an early age and top it off in GOW1 he finds out he needs pandora's box to beat a god and what has Ares fought......probably just the titans most likey

so all up yes it was possibly for him to beat Ares and it was'nt PIS and if you still call it PIS then him ploughing through all of Ares's army(Minotaurs, undead soldiers, cyclops's) back in athens must also be PIS and not to mention back then he was still a mortal 🙄 .

The fact is that he didn't have Pandora's Box when he fought Ares' armies, or the legions of Hades, he wasn't boosting himself with any particular extra power, and they weren't invulnerable to anything besides another Godly power--the only thing that's killed a God of War God is just that. Kratos was given so many advantages in his fight with Ares that he wasn't given aginast the likes of Zeus, that it shows he was either that much more powerful as of God of War II, or was held back by the Gods in God of War I. If his fight with Ares wasn't PIS, nothing was.

PIS? wut that stand for? anyways, kratos takes this, and even tho he need pandoras box to beat ares, that still puts him at a disadvantage, because ares still has stronger powers thatn kratos does. all pandoras box did was give kratos a small chance to win, as of before he had no chance. and even with a small chance, kratos still won, and still pwned. kratos takes this fight easy.

PIS means Plot Induced Stupidity.

Good fight, but Sephiroth would use Sin Harvest Angel, the end.

Wait.... You think THIS is a good fight, but you think he slaughters Pyron? 😐

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]Wait.... You think THIS is a good fight, but you think he slaughters Pyron? 😐 [/B]

This is no good fight, Kratos takes this fight quite easily.

Yeah. He can destroy worldsI will admit that but he is no match for Sephiroth, but maybe Kratos.

😐 He destroys galaxies, you bloody christmas tree ermm He could throw the moon on Earth from far away. That way staying out of Sephiroth's range and still killing them all.

Sephiroth can destroy planets as well.

Yeah yeah yeah, I have heard it before. While he uses abilities, Pyron destroy planets by stumbling over them or playing bowling in the galaxy. I do not care how many planets Sephiroth would destroy in the future, he is not in the same league as Pyron.

Pyron EATS planets. 😐

In his most recent appearance, he had devoured countless galaxies. 😬

So Pyron is galaxies strong. 😐

Seph will NEVER be able to fight that.

In your dreams Pyron could beat Sephiroth. This is the real world.

Actually, it is the fictional world. And in this fictional world, Sephiroth has nothing against Pyron.