Kratos vs Sephiroth

Started by Dark-Jaxx19 pages

Originally posted by Wil7
In your dreams Pyron could beat Sephiroth. This is the real world.
If you think that prove he can in the thread I made.

srry kratos, but pyron pwns too badly.... i mean he EATS GALAXIES. thats just too much to mess with. anyways kratos takes this in a stomp.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Right, so he needed Kadaj to drink the cells and Kadaj became Sephiroth. Like what happened in the movie. 🙂

2. Nope, Kadaj drank some cells in a box which made Kadaj Sephiroth. Hell, on-board the airship, they were even saying that Kadaj was the chrysalis who would BECOME Sephiroth. Sephiroth has never healed from any wound. 🙂

3. Gameplay first of all, but I will concede this, he can also just use his many lightning attacks, Seph is not faster than lightning.

4. O RLY? Kadaj transformed into Sephiroth, he didn't regen from some cells in a box, canon supports this. 🙂

The Blade of Olympus, which has only gotten stronger since Kratos obtained it, in one blow defeated the Titans(whose bodies are supposed to be indestructible) and ended the Great Titan War. Kratos defeated Zeus while he was wielding the Blade of Olympus and stole it.

Oh, and before you freak out and say I'm just a Sephiroth hater who wants him to lose, I actually like Sephiroth. I just don't ride his boloni-pony. 🙂

LOL

You are basically ignoring everything I say, and repeating the same thing over and over again.

And what is really funny, is that you are helping my argument.
If Sephiroth possesed Kadaj's body(a body 100% made of Negative Lifestream) as you said, that means his regeneration would be even better than if he was using the cells.
Because his entire body would be made of spirit energy, and under his complete control(he have total control over the NL). He could regenerate in seconds, exactly like Omega Weapon(another being formed 100% of Lifestream) could do, and did, in DoC.

A body composed of J-cells, or a body composed of Negative Lifestream. One way or another, he can regenerate in seconds.

You lost.

Originally posted by SHM
LOL

You are basically ignoring everything I say, and repeating the same thing over and over again.

And what is really funny, is that [b]you are helping my argument.
If Sephiroth possesed Kadaj's body(a body 100% made of Negative Lifestream) as you said, that means his regeneration would be even better than if he was using the cells.
Because his entire body would be made of spirit energy, and under his complete control(he have total control over the NL). He could regenerate in seconds, exactly like Omega Weapon(another being formed 100% of Lifestream) could do, and did, in DoC.

A body composed of J-cells, or a body composed of Negative Lifestream. One way or another, he can regenerate in seconds.

You lost. [/B]

You're an idiot.

Kadaj TRANSFORMED into Sephiroth.

Sephiroth needed Kadaj to come back, he can't do it at a whim, if he killed, he wouldn't have been permabanned by the Omnislash V. 5.

Kratos holds most possibly advantages over Sephiroth, let's just say you are right and Sephiroth can regen from anything.

Kratos can still just kill Lucretia in the past ftw.

Beat that.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
You're an idiot.

Kadaj TRANSFORMED into Sephiroth.

Sephiroth needed Kadaj to come back, he can't do it at a whim, if he killed, he wouldn't have been permabanned by the Omnislash V. 5.

Kratos holds most possibly advantages over Sephiroth, let's just say you are right and Sephiroth can regen from anything.

Kratos can still just kill Lucretia in the past ftw.

Beat that.


Indeed. Kratos murders sephiroth, and just for the fun of it kills him by decapitating him and keeps his head.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
You're an idiot.

Kadaj TRANSFORMED into Sephiroth.

Sephiroth needed Kadaj to come back, he can't do it at a whim, if he killed, he wouldn't have been permabanned by the Omnislash V. 5.

Kratos holds most possibly advantages over Sephiroth, let's just say you are right and Sephiroth can regen from anything.

Kratos can still just kill Lucretia in the past ftw.

Beat that.

...Was I like, drunk or tired when I wrote that? 😐

Cause my grammar and spelling sucked in that post...

Bump because you know we all miss Terry.

Come back to us Terry.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Bump because you know we all miss Terry.

Come back to us Terry.

K1ll3r you mean. 😆

Thought their posts seemed similar.

*shrug* Never noticed too much similarity. Similar arguments sure but that's just the nature of the beast.

lawl.

Anyway for the fight as it is now since the last bump, here's my opinion in the simplest sense;

Cut out every bit of footage until 4:09, and then replace Zeus with Sephiroth. You should have the most basic jist.
YouTube video

Oh goody. I somehow missed the fact that Kratos tanked Zeus' massive electric explosion death event too.

What's so impressive about that explosion?

Compared to disappearing into a bunch of black feathers? A lot.

Yeahhhh...

Originally posted by NemeBro
You're an idiot.

Kadaj TRANSFORMED into Sephiroth.

Sephiroth needed Kadaj to come back, he can't do it at a whim, if he killed, he wouldn't have been permabanned by the Omnislash V. 5.

Kratos holds most possibly advantages over Sephiroth, let's just say you are right and Sephiroth can regen from anything.

Kratos can still just kill Lucretia in the past ftw.

Beat that.

Sephiroth didn't need Kadaj to come back, only what he would look like if he lived. Although I doubt he needs that much as he could easily create a random body and take over it like he did with Jenova.

Also lol@killing Lucretia. How would Kratos know about her\what she looked like or even if Sephiroth was born. 🤣

Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
lawl.

Anyway for the fight as it is now since the last bump, here's my opinion in the simplest sense;

Cut out every bit of footage until 4:09, and then replace Zeus with Sephiroth. You should have the most basic jist.

Sephiroth can move faster than Kratos' attacks themselves (shown in this clip), and has dodged things as fast as them while not even looking in the direction they came from, while smirking!

Also, Supernova.

Kratos has reacted to things faster than Sephiroth.

Also Supernova is completely featless and thus useless. I assume we aren't using Safer Sephiroth anyway.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Sephiroth didn't need Kadaj to come back, only what he would look like if he lived. Although I doubt he needs that much as he could easily create a random body and take over it like he did with Jenova.

Also lol@killing Lucretia. How would Kratos know about her\what she looked like or even if Sephiroth was born. 🤣

Oh then I guess coming back again will be only so easy huh? And I guess he could have just came back any time huh? To come back he needed a pre-existing body, the SHM due to their relationship with Jenova, and he needed Jenova's super awesome cells to be exposed to one of them?

Why are you responding to such an out of date post by the way? I mean you ever consider that I either no longer think these or that God of War 3 changed things?

Gtfo.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Sephiroth didn't need Kadaj to come back, only what he would look like if he lived. Although I doubt he needs that much as he could easily create a random body and take over it like he did with Jenova.

Also lol@killing Lucretia. How would Kratos know about her\what she looked like or even if Sephiroth was born. 🤣

Sephiroth can move faster than Kratos' attacks themselves (shown in this clip), and has dodged things as fast as them while not even looking in the direction they came from, while smirking!

Also, Supernova.

Lulz. Firstly, if Kratos had access to the Loom of Fate, and Sephiroth had his own string, his life is literally in Kratos' hands.

Kratos' basic attacks take roughly 30 microseconds (no, not gameplay time, 'canon' time - but this concept might be completely beyond someone of your level). They're roughly as fast as a single lightning stroke takes to appear and disappear, which is on average, 30 microseconds.

Supernova's nothing more than an over-hyped standard explosion. It won't work on Kratos.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Sephiroth didn't need Kadaj to come back, only what he would look like if he lived. Although I doubt he needs that much as he could easily create a random body and take over it like he did with Jenova.

Also lol@killing Lucretia. How would Kratos know about her\what she looked like or even if Sephiroth was born. 🤣

If Sephiroth could've come back from any source, it wouldn't have taken Kadaj to absorb the remains of Jenova in the first place. Kadaj was never anything more than just a premature form of Sephiroth who's entire PURPOSE was to complete himself into Sephiroth's new body. Last I checked, that's the whole freakin' concept of the Reunion process; Sephiroth simply became the center of it because the process had ultimately made him the newest stage in Jenova's evolution.

The same way the Sisters of Fate did, controlling the thread of his life, or just cutting it, thus ending his life like that. The only counter argument against that is that it may seem like a no-limits fallacy, but so is saying that Sephiroth can come back from any source with just a trace of Jenova's DNA.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Sephiroth can move faster than Kratos' attacks themselves (shown in this clip), and has dodged things as fast as them while not even looking in the direction they came from, while smirking!

Also, Supernova.

So could 80% of the Gods Kratos fought and killed through means that sent them from smirking to being lucky to still have their faces. Poseidon in the first ten minutes of GoWIII alone has already out-sped Sephiroth and a fair majority of FFVII's fighters, and he isn't even the strongest nor fastest of the Gods. Secondly, what clip are you speaking of, unless you're referring to the attacks in the one I posted? Because it's moot given that Kratos is virtually invulnerable in that scene. Like I said, that was merely the most basic jist of what could happen. That video isn't the only showing of that amp technically speaking.

Has no concrete use. Hell, Kratos brought the sun back into the sky at one point.