Originally posted by PVS
there is the insanity factor, of which kim is suspect. its clear that he doesnt fear the u.s., as well he shouldnt since bush wants no part of a korean conflict. however he does fear china, and the u.s. is china's most important client with regards to trading. but...like i say there is the insanity factor, and who knows how far kim is willing to go to prove...whatever the hell he's trying to prove.
I agree the man seems a bit off kilter, but I genuinely don't believe he's stupid enough to engage in military conflict first, and as dumb as Bush is, neither is he.
It's disconcerting, naturally, but I just dislike all the "OH NO WORLD WAR 3!" people.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I agree the man seems a bit off kilter, but I genuinely don't believe he's stupid enough to engage in military conflict first, and as dumb as Bush is, neither is he.It's disconcerting, naturally, but I just dislike all the "OH NO WORLD WAR 3!" people.
-AC
Completely true, no nuclear power is stupid enough to start a war with another nuclear power. It could end their own lives, and in the case of America the lives of many of their allies.
I think they exploded a conventional weapon and claimed it was a nuke in order to get respect after thier failed missile programm.
Neverthelss the "toothless" UN will probably impose some pointless sanctions so the appear to be doing something. Nothing was done when India and Pakistan aquired nukes, a lot of saber rattling but now they are accepted.
All a big cloud of nothing imo
Originally posted by PVS
you would think that if they really did detonate an atomic bomb, they would make sure to have undisputable proof of it. perhaps it is indeed a hoax.
Meh , Geiger counters show very little...apparently it shall take ' Two weeks' to notice whether or not a Nuclear weapon was used ...
and as with every other problem the nation faces, the looney right (and their newest spokesman john mccain) have come to the same brilliant conclusion:
its all clinton's fault
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/CNN-McCain-blame.mov
SNOWBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by PVS
and as with every other problem the nation faces, the looney right (and their newest spokesman john mccain) have come to the same brilliant conclusion:its all clinton's fault
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/CNN-McCain-blame.mov
SNOWBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is his fault though...he gave him supplies to build Nukes, Money, and a free ticket to build these. A sad view of today is that Negotiation really works with Insane people, it doesn't
Originally posted by PVS
there is the insanity factor, of which kim is suspect. its clear that he doesnt fear the u.s., as well he shouldnt since bush wants no part of a korean conflict. however he does fear china, and the u.s. is china's most important client with regards to trading. but...like i say there is the insanity factor, and who knows how far kim is willing to go to prove...whatever the hell he's trying to prove.
I have heard a lot on both sides, but really I tend to agree that Kim is far from insane.
Certain political commentators have noted in the past few days how many western commentators like to portray him as a clown, an oddball, a fool, when actual study of him shows that is far from the case.
He has eccentricities most certainly (like any political leader), but everything else seems to support that in terms of political acumen he is quite canny and in touch which the necessities of controlling the state. If anything the world underestimates him based upon his eccentricities. And it would be agreed that underestimating such a man would be dangerous. It is one of those situations where a fearful character has been given the humor treatment, but it has gone to far and now for many it is impossible to reconcile him as anything other then an unbalanced despot. Will he sell weapons to terrorists? He hasn't yet, and there is no reason to believe he will.
And I have heard of lot about this in the last few hours - yes, Korea detonated a nuclear device. However they apparently have no means of attaching one to a missile (and wont for some time) - yet media commentators appear to overlook this - the risk from nuclear attack is greatly reduced if it can't actually be fired.
I'm more worried about zombies than nuclear war......or maybe zombies brought on by nuclear war.....good times.
Maybe zombies that run around shooting nukes from their mouths.
Originally posted by PVS
and as with every other problem the nation faces, the looney right (and their newest spokesman john mccain) have come to the same brilliant conclusion:
Remember when McCain was respected by people from both parties. Remember when we all thought he was genuine and a decent guy.
Ahhhh....remember when.............
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I have heard a lot on both sides, but really I tend to agree that Kim is far from insane.Certain political commentators have noted in the past few days how many western commentators like to portray him as a clown, an oddball, a fool, when actual study of him shows that is far from the case.
He has eccentricities most certainly (like any political leader), but everything else seems to support that in terms of political acumen he is quite canny and in touch which the necessities of controlling the state. If anything the world underestimates him based upon his eccentricities. And it would be agreed that underestimating such a man would be dangerous. It is one of those situations where a fearful character has been given the humor treatment, but it has gone to far and now for many it is impossible to reconcile him as anything other then an unbalanced despot. Will he sell weapons to terrorists? He hasn't yet, and there is no reason to believe he will.
And I have heard of lot about this in the last few hours - yes, Korea detonated a nuclear device. However they apparently have no means of attaching one to a missile (and wont for some time) - yet media commentators appear to overlook this - the risk from nuclear attack is greatly reduced if it can't actually be fired.
Kim-jon-Il is insane, in both meanings of the word, 1.)He's a Tyrannical Dictator worse than Hitler(except he doesn't invade people)
2.)If you look at his personal life, he's a nut, he thinks Donald Duck is the greatest Comedian of all time, has a "brigade" of like 12 year olds that he has sex with, among other weird things, huge list
Are people really this STUPID? A hoax? you guy's think this is fake?
Alot of you talk the line like you actually think you know more than the government.
You guy's are not the solution, your the f*cking problem.
STOP BEING THE DAMN PROBLEM!
The nuke is real, the threat is realer. Kji is threatning to use there nuclear power for destruction, not improved power. ISNT THAT CLEAR.
If you really think it's all a Lie. If you really think the Twin tower was a conspiracy. Look into yourself. The tower's aint there anymore. Our friend's died that day.
I am a millitary family, and I have over 20 ex Millitary men working under me. This threat is real.
Stop letting them control us. Its "WE THE PEOPLE"
But no, let's just blow this off like we have with Terrorism already.