North Korea's Nuclear Test

Started by S.C.U.D DF7 pages

The only thing that is scary, is the new era of people coming up, dumb democrats that think the War is pointless.

You know what will happen if we pull out. You know, which is enough proof for me that the democratic party doesnt care about my life or any other.

Our revenue is at record high. Our economy is ok, its our security that we need to be worried about.

Originally posted by PVS
are you sure? well...........ok...i guess

Definatly! More tea please.

this has been said for ages:

World War Three in Brief

A Three World War scenario was developed several decades ago (see Conspiratorial History). Two World Wars have already been achieved, and the Third and final World War envisions an attack on Iraq, Iran and/or Syria as being the trigger to set the entire Middle East into fiery conflagration. Once America is firmly entrenched into the Middle East with the majority of her first-line units, North Korea is to attack South Korea. Then, with America's forces stretched well beyond the limit, China is to invade Taiwan. This will usher in the start of World War Three.

www.threeworldwars.com

Originally posted by Deano
this has been said for ages:

World War Three in Brief

A Three World War scenario was developed several decades ago (see Conspiratorial History). Two World Wars have already been achieved, and the Third and final World War envisions an attack on Iraq, Iran and/or Syria as being the trigger to set the entire Middle East into fiery conflagration. Once America is firmly entrenched into the Middle East with the majority of her first-line units, North Korea is to attack South Korea. Then, with America's forces stretched well beyond the limit, China is to invade Taiwan. This will usher in the start of World War Three.

www.threeworldwars.com

Thats such a huge "what if" scenario I wanna stab my eyes out for reading it.

Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
The only thing that is scary, is the new era of people coming up, dumb democrats that think the War is pointless.

You know what will happen if we pull out. You know, which is enough proof for me that the democratic party doesnt care about my life or any other.

Our revenue is at record high. Our economy is ok, its our security that we need to be worried about.

quote a single democrat which ever said that we should just pull out. like "kthxbye" and just leave. all that was suggested by anyone was an exit strategy, as opposed to permanent occupation, a conclusion of which i can play strawman and throw at you, but how can we "stand united" if we all pull that crap?

its sad that someone has to demonise half their american peers as not caring about their lives, while hypocritically stating that we should all be united.

well, ill leave it at that before im accused of flaming and harassment again

Originally posted by PVS

well, ill leave it at that before im accused of flaming and harassment again

Yeah, noticed that in your sig.

What happened, one of the mods get on your case for all the GOP "knob-polisher" comments?

😛

While they were good for keeping an argument going, I never took personal offense.

Just curious, but what happened to get you a warning?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Yeah, noticed that in your sig.

What happened, one of the mods get on your case for all the GOP "knob-polisher" comments?

😛

While they were good for keeping an argument going, I never took personal offense.

Just curious, but what happened to get you a warning?

actually that had nothing to do with it, and sorry to say, neither did you.
but lets leave it at that, k?

Originally posted by PVS
actually that had nothing to do with it, and sorry to say, neither did you.
but lets leave it at that, k?

Very well, so how bout it?

Clinton set those N. Korea boys up real nice didn't he, given 'em all the tools to build nooks and what not......

the agreement proposed to be brought to them during the clinton administration was for NK to replace its already existant technology with light reactor technology, which cannot be used to create nuclear weapons. mccain is a fat lying whore, preying on the gullibility of people who just want a simple answer to a very complicated situation.

read up instead of blowing hot air about things you know nothing about.
i must admit it has my head spinning as well, but im not acting like i know the answers for certain, and certainly am not repeating verbatim, lies spun by a politician

http://www.isis-online.org/publications/dprk/book/af.html

http://www.army.mil/professionalwriting/volumes/volume1/august_2003/8_03_1.html

what disturbs me the most is how eager people are to swallow those lies and crap out even greater lies which were never even hinted at by bush or the new saint mccain...because they are completely false of course:

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
It is his fault though...he gave him supplies to build Nukes,

Originally posted by sithsaber408

Clinton set those N. Korea boys up real nice didn't he, given 'em all the tools to build nooks and what not......

lies. nothing more than lies. you should both feel ashamed, though im sure you wont.

😂

I was just kidding.

I think that little commie just screwed Clinton, taking the deal and using it for his own purposes.

I doubt that Clinton could guess that a nuke program would come out of the light energy water reactors.

I think the more pressing question should be: what now?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
😂

I was just kidding.

oh, thank god you were just kidding. for a minute i thought you were willing to make up a complete lie that its possible to create weapons from light reactor technology...*sigh of relief*

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I think that little commie just screwed Clinton, taking the deal and using it for his own purposes.

I doubt that Clinton could guess that a nuke program would come out of the light energy water reactors.

so, then you turn around and tell the same lie. oh you were kidding again, right?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I think the more pressing question should be: what now?

yes, what now? do you continue consciously spreading a lie? or do you seek out the truth? it requires reading, not listening, to me, mccain, bush, clinton, or anyone. research it ffs

Democrats are so funny. Can you make up your mind.
First Bush doesnt know what he is doing because he is at war with Iraq. Then it's his fault cause HE let North Korea get this far ahead.

This isnt Bushes Fault. This is the Democrats fault.

Democrat's admit to trying to pre-occupy bush from Iraq for the past 2 years. But at the same time, it's his fault that North Korea test a nuke.

PVS... talk about Hypocricy. Yet, you Hyprocriticly blame Bush for Clinton's doings. Talk about someone pulling Crap out there Ass.

You follow a party with no will nor morals. But, yet still insist that The Bush Administration is a lie. That they are hidding top secret's. Yea man. Alien's already landed, we just havnt told you yet.

PVS.. since everyone else is lying on this forum.

Why dont you shed some light on the truth.

Originally posted by PVS

lies. nothing more than lies. you should both feel ashamed, though im sure you wont. [/B]

As much as I liked Clinton, what they said isn't completely false. The light water reactors cannot be used to create nuclear weapons, that is correct. But under Clinton's plan, the N. Koreans we're provided with uranium, they were handed hundreds of millions in aid (which most likely Kim Jong-Il used for military purposes) and it completely went against the J. Carter agreement.

I do think Clinton did have the best intentions when he authorized the policy, but it blew up in his face. But the Republicans must also realize, this isn't new news, Bush had 5+ years to do something about N. Korea & Kim Jong-Il and he didn't.

:edit: not directed at robtard

im sorry, but who's point are you arguing? and is arguments based on lies and straw man bashing all anyone has to throw on the table?

Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
This is the Democrats fault.

Democrat's admit to trying to pre-occupy bush from Iraq for the past 2 years. But at the same time, it's his fault that North Korea test a nuke.

nobody faults bush for anything but scrapping the agreement in which all nuclear fuel in NK was kept under lock and key under the supervision of international instectors. once he cried "axis of evil" and broke off all aid, kim threw out the inspectors and began building his bomb. so ultimately its kim's fault for building the damn thing, and in part bush's fault for not producing a clear reason why he scrapped the agreement. the true reason why the agreement was scrapped was because NK went about research for uranium enrichment. however all nuclear fuel was locked down as agreed upon.

why must people oversimplfy everything to the point of a lie? i mean ffs, as much as i explain, i am oversimplifying as well. but to say "ITS THE DEMOCRATS FAULT" is....WOW dude.

Originally posted by Robtard
As much as I liked Clinton, what they said isn't completely false. The light water reactors cannot be used to create nuclear weapons, that is correct. But under Clinton's plan, the N. Koreans we're provided with uranium, they were handed hundreds of millions in aid (which most likely Kim Jong-Il used for military purposes) and it completely went against the J. Carter agreement.

I do think Clinton did have the best intentions when he authorized the policy, but it blew up in his face. But the Republicans must also realize, this isn't new news, Bush had 5+ years to do something about N. Korea & im Jong-Il and he didn't.

NK had already developed enriched plutonium. that was the whole point of the agreement. it was to have NK scrap their existing reactors, which could be used duelly for power and for weapons grade plutonium develpment, and replace it with light reactor technology (which by the way never passed in the senate, so no technology at all was sent).

what was left was basically an agreement that NK keep its existing enriched plutonium locked up and supervised by inspectors, continue with its existing program while not enriching plutonium (only one use for that) all in exchange for us throwing money and food at them. yeah, it was sloppy, i know, but the fact stands that we did not supply them with weapons grade plutonium.

the fact is that clinton and bush only managed to halt and then begin again the inevitable. NK never needed help nor our uranium to produce enriched plutonium. they already produced it.

Wait wait wait. First it's Bushes fault... now it's Kind of Bushes fault.

To the extremes of blaming the demo party was out of line.
It was the U.N that decided to scrap the program.

But let's jump to now. Bush is stating that, he has no intention's of taking action on NK via attack. He did call for a U.N meeting to take civil action. His actions are to protect us as Americans. The Democrats now want to fight that Bush is slacking, and that North Korea krept up in the Nuclear program, while Bush was obsessing over Terrorism.

Now let's keep this key to Terrorism. Bush Administration is taking action on Terrorism by sending in troops to HELP the country work there shit out/ keep there ruler from mass Genociding it's own people. Now, all of a sudden this war is terrible. We need to get out, and worry about our own shit here, is what the Demo party is claiming.

CONTRADICTION. So this is Loose Loose for bush in the eye's of the Democrats. If Bush pushes and persues War on Terrorism. Your mad and throw sh*t fits cause were at war and that we should be more worried about our homeland. But, then Bush isnt doing enough because he cant keep his focus large enough on the WHOLE subject/north korea.

Please again make up your mind.

Originally posted by PVS
oh, thank god you were just kidding. for a minute i thought you were willing to make up a complete lie that its possible to create weapons from light reactor technology...*sigh of relief*

so, then you turn around and tell the same lie. oh you were kidding again, right?

yes, what now? do you continue consciously spreading a lie? or do you seek out the truth? it requires reading, not listening, to me, mccain, bush, clinton, or anyone. research it ffs

Was going to respond to clarify, but Robtard already posted it.

I meant that Clinton couldn't know that a nuke program would come out of the deal for the light water reactors, not that he took those and developed nuclear weapons.

Either way, I'm not blaming him.

McCain is right however, that the time for talking is over.

We've done negotiated with them, giving millions of dollars and uranium (for peace-worthy efforts) and they took it and developed nukes that the little bastard Kim wants to use as leverage.

If harsh U.N. sanctions don't deter him (and they probably won't) why should we think that some promise made in a negotiation with us would?

Especially now that he HAS nuclear capabilities. (limited though they may be)

And Robtard, Bush DID do something.

He cut them off, from aid and from talks, which is what Clinton agreed to give him in exchange for not having a nuke program.

Kim violated that agreement, and Bush responded by terminating the agreement.

Short of boots on the ground, or a missle war, he's done everything possible, appealing to N. Korea's neighbors or the U.N. to settle this.

Now that those options are seemingly all about to have been played out, we'll have to see Bush's next move to judge if he's "doing nothing" about it.