North Korea's Nuclear Test

I generally agree with that, France has nuclear weapons and they don't get on with America at all..

So why isn't America hitting the roof about that?

Its just because emerging powers are viewed as junior states and the in the case of North Korea the boundaries between rogue and emerging have been made blurred by western media

He could be dangerous, but i think the nuclear deterrant works, no one wants to wipe the world out in one go... we'd all much prefer to do it by polluting it till its uninhabitable, basically so we can ignore it for longer

You can't ignore a mushroom cloud!

Originally posted by Jayflip
I generally agree with that, France has nuclear weapons and they don't get on with America at all..

So why isn't America hitting the roof about that?

Its just because emerging powers are viewed as junior states and the in the case of North Korea the boundaries between rogue and emerging have been made blurred by western media

He could be dangerous, but i think the nuclear deterrant works, no one wants to wipe the world out in one go... we'd all much prefer to do it by polluting it till its uninhabitable, basically so we can ignore it for longer

You can't ignore a mushroom cloud!

For one France is lead by a stable government, it's head of state is level headed and France isn't likely to go ahead and sell a nuke to religious zealots with a death wish.

Do I think Kim Jong-Il will launch a nuke at Hawaii or S. Korea himself? No, he knows that would be the end of N. Korea, but I can see him selling nukes to the highest bidder, no matter who the bidder is.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's a great policy, a bully threatens and you tuck tail and run.

I'm not saying they should tuck their tails and run, but North Korea saying "We have nuclear capability, back off or we'll take it as you declaring war." is a lot different than "I'll punch you.".

I stand by what I said before, I believe there will be tension and then nothing major, but as PVS pointed out, Kim Jong-Il is a nutter.

-AC

Originally posted by Robtard
For one France is lead by a stable government, it's head of state is level headed and France isn't likely to go ahead and sell a nuke to religious zealots with a death wish.

Do I think Kim Jong-Il will launch a nuke at Hawaii or S. Korea himself? No, he knows that would be the end of N. Korea, but I can see him selling nukes to the highest bidder, no matter who the bidder is.

As much as I would agree that France is someone to be trusted to not use nuclear weapons, I must disagree on you about France selling nukes to religious fantics. Most likely, France is one of the main corprets of selling WMDs to Iran, Iraq, and other middle-eastern countries.

Though France itself may not launch their own nukes, the irony in that statement is all to sweet when they sell off their own weapons.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
Though France itself may not launch their own nukes, the irony in that statement is all to sweet when they sell off their own weapons.

Uh the USA has sold TONS of arms to everyone as well even helping some middle eastern countries in the 70's to become nuclear (obviously that didn't happen but it was being worked on then.)

It would be awesome if China got sick of NK and just took them out for us, diplomatically of course.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not saying they should tuck their tails and run, but North Korea saying "We have nuclear capability, back off or we'll take it as you declaring war." is a lot different than "I'll punch you.".

I stand by what I said before, I believe there will be tension and then nothing major, but as PVS pointed out, Kim Jong-Il is a nutter.

-AC

And nut-jobs with dictator like powers should not be handling nukes. So when a nut like Kim Jong-Il says "Back off I have nukes." best thing to do is call his bluff, he's a bully and bullies only understand a 'punch in the mouth' approach. Backing off will only encourage a bully, that is a fact everyone can agree with.

Originally posted by Soleran
Uh the USA has sold TONS of arms to everyone as well even helping some middle eastern countries in the 70's to become nuclear (obviously that didn't happen but it was being worked on then.)

It would be awesome if China got sick of NK and just took them out for us, diplomatically of course.

Yes... the USA has given help to country's that need help. Did america supply IRAN with Nuclear advice, and IRAQ with weapon's and a millitary stand points. Yes. We did this with PURE intentions of Helping out our friends.

Like the neighbor asking to use your tool's. We were trying to be friendly.

I dont think the terrorist had intentions of being friend's when they destroyed the twin towers. They were asking for us to come. Why do they want us to attack. They know we can/did humiliat them. But what they have done is perform the greatest, and oldest magic trick in the book. While they pull our full attention with "The War on Terrorism". They are pulling the old switch/dissapear act. It's right under our noses. They are driving US apart. and they are planning to attack again. Next time, can very well be it.

We need to stand strong.

Perhaps the US should stop making "friends" based on the Cold War and the Cold War on Terrorism.

Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
Did america supply IRAN with Nuclear advice,

no

Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
and IRAQ with weapon's and a millitary stand points. Yes. We did this with PURE intentions of Helping out our friends.

no, we supplied iraq and hussein with the single intention of having iraq fight a war with iran, and there after to keep iran in check.

Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
Like the neighbor asking to use your tool's. We were trying to be friendly.

WORST. SIMILE. EVER.

Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
I dont think the terrorist had intentions of being friend's when they destroyed the twin towers. They were asking for us to come. Why do they want us to attack. They know we can/did humiliat them. But what they have done is perform the greatest, and oldest magic trick in the book. While they pull our full attention with "The War on Terrorism". They are pulling the old switch/dissapear act. It's right under our noses. They are driving US apart. and they are planning to attack again. Next time, can very well be it.

that made no sense at all.

I think the chances of a country helping another country for purely altruistic reasons are about the same as candidates running objective political advertisements.