Originally posted by sithsaber408
giving millions of dollars and uranium
clintons light water rector plan involved supplying them with uranium, but like i said that never passed the senate (i believe it was robtard who pointed out the conflict which halted it). so ill ask for any proof that uranium was supplied to NK by the US. an article....something. ill take a wiki link even. anything. go. search.
I dont think anyone would like to be in Bushes Shoe's. There is a whole picture here that is being painted that aint looking so well. America is getting attack from almost all shores. Democrats in America are Blaming bush for making our America look like the "Increadible HULK".
Decisions need to be made. Hard decisions. And now when we need it most, some of our allies are pissing there pants.
Russia, and most of Europe are sh*ting themselves. They notice that we are at war, and they are goign to try to take us from under the table.
Originally posted by PVS
clintons light water rector plan involved supplying them with uranium, but like i said that never passed the senate (i believe it was robtard who pointed out the conflict which halted it). so ill ask for any proof that uranium was supplied to NK by the US. an article....something. ill take a wiki link even. anything. go. search.
Prove to us that we didnt. We dont need to supply shit. Your the one with the accusations.
Originally posted by PVS
clintons light water rector plan involved supplying them with uranium, but like i said that never passed the senate (i believe it was robtard who pointed out the conflict which halted it). so ill ask for any proof that uranium was supplied to NK by the US. an article....something. ill take a wiki link even. anything. go. search.
ok, then take out the word uranium.
Anything else to be said about my post, which had 6 or 7 other points to it?
(this one still stands anyway, since I was arguing that out of the Clinton deal, N. Korea was sneaky and developed nukes anyway. Not that we helped them build them)
I must assume that you brought the point up for clarification purposes only, since it has little to do with the ultimate point of the post.
But thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow.
all that is left of your points is that under clinton the u.s. decided to throw money at NK to keep them from continuing their use production of weapons grade enriched plutonium (yes i know thats redundant).
and you are correct. but whats your point?
the point i made is that it was working and the plutonium remained locked and supervised. once bush broke the deal, and the money stopped, kim resumed weapons building.
thats not the "blame game", thats history. clinton threw a bandaid on it and bush ripped the band aid off. no heros in this story, unless you're a deluded bush fan boy
Originally posted by sithsaber408
No, no heroes.But I was under the impression that Bush stopped the deal because N. Korea was still pursuing nukes.
You are saying then that the deal Clinton put in place was working and that they were only developing nukes after Bush put a halt on the deal?
no, i am saying, and have said, that the 'nukes' were produced already. clinton struck this deal to keep the ENRICHED PLUTONIUM which was ALREADY DEVELOPED----->unused. dude, its a complicated situation i know, but this part is simple. there was no need for them to pursue. NK had already leaped the greatest hurdle in nuclear weapons production.
and yes, NK CONTINUED developing nuclear weapons after the deal was shredded (to the best of anyone's knowledge, of course)
Got it.
Thanks.
So yeah, the Presidents did what they could (I guess) and it wasn't good enough to stop him, since he had developed weapons before, during, and after the deal.
Again, McCain is right: Time for talking is over. It isn't getting us anywhere, since Kim is a little dipshit that's gonna do whatever he wants to, talks or not.
We all know if democrat's get into the House then. What are they going to do? The exact damn thing the republicans have been doing. But with a larger budget decreas. I dont know if this will be a big enough warning for the republicans to get there head's out there ass and get down to buisness either. It's a throw.
Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
This isnt about resources. This is about life. They could be the largest oil or diamond resource in the world. The fact that they are Making Bomb's to "KILL" is reason to at least check the shit out.
Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
We all know if democrat's get into the House then. What are they going to do? The exact damn thing the republicans have been doing. But with a larger budget decreas. I dont know if this will be a big enough warning for the republicans to get there head's out there ass and get down to buisness either. It's a throw.
Stop screwing up the threads WHOB.
Stay on topic if you wanna post in here.
Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF
This isnt about resources. This is about life. They could be the largest oil or diamond resource in the world. The fact that they are Making Bomb's to "KILL" is reason to at least check the shit out.
If by "check this shit out" you mean, as the President is urging, let the UN get involved; why should the UN get involved? What I don't understand is that the UN was inept and useless before the Iraq war, but they're our best option now?
The vote to allow the President to use force against Iraq said the President was supposed to get concuring evidence from the UN. Since they didn't agree with the war the President made them out to be useless and outdated. Now he's calling on them for help. But, why? I thought they were a failed organization that had outlived it's usefulness.
Your ole boy Bush can't have it both ways.