Originally posted by manorastroman
that jean was acting like she was in a state of shock, and the force consciousness' dialogue bubbles were fractured. the whole plot of endsong is about the force being broken.
Sorry dude, I have no idea what your talking about. I have every issue of New X-Men, please point out for me where is that ever mentioned.
Originally posted by Mr MasterOK let me get this straight I'll pretend to agree with you somewhat on this. So it is omniversal power bcause he can manipulate Multiverses and apprantly not even that good because trying to block one attack he burnt his hand. So that equates to Omniversal power.
I was showing you that just ONE piece on the Board can create a Universe, Alter another one 616 and left unchecked Re-Write the Omni-verse. (That was Jaspers)The Tribune, is to show you just how much authority Captain Britain titles have over Marvel, I told you, they deal with the Omni-verse strickly.
There's only One Omni-verse and Merlin ONLY had Excalibur all that time.
And yet look at what he was capable of ONLY with the Sword of Might.
I'll let the onlookers be the judge of that.
I did show Proof of Merlin controlling and manipulting the Multi-verse, and just with the Swrod of Might.
Roma says, "The Game's disintegrating, but the MULTI-VERSE DEPENDS upon the GAME"
Pure speculation versus On Panel Art and character statements.
I know where your coming from, but I think your forcing yourself to overlook the evidence.
Again, Merlin ONLY had Excalibur.
It takes both Excalibur AND the Amulet of Right together, to give one Omniversal control.
The Multi-verse on a Chess board Feat and other Multi-verses floating around his Realm waiting to be manipulated, is just to show you the scope of Power Merlin had just with the Sword of Might.
Like I said Omniversal power is ability to control and manipulate everything in the Omniverse meaning nothing is beyond the scope of your power in the Omniverse. Non of that has been shown Multiversal and Univesal levels have been shown but not Omniversal.
Your telling me based solely on Universal and Multiversal feats that CB can weild Omniversal power and as such the chaoswave was Omniversal as well. Like I said I think there are connections your trying to put together and they aren't there.
Originally posted by manorastroman
it's not mentioned, but it makes sense. jean acts like she's in shock, the force's dialogue is fractured by all these slashes, and then immediately after the "live, scott" incident we have endsong, which is all about the force being broken.
You evaded my question quite cleverly,
WHERE is it mentioned that Jean stupidity during New X-Men #154 has anything to do with a so called "Broken Force"?
I have ALL the issues, just tell me and I'll post it for you, otherwise, that's an empty claim.
Originally posted by newjak86
OK let me get this straight I'll pretend to agree with you somewhat on this. So it is omniversal power bcause he can manipulate Multiverses and apprantly not even that good because trying to block one attack he burnt his hand. So that equates to Omniversal power.
His hand was burnt by a creature created by Jim Jaspers, one of the Pieces on his Board.
Merlin is a trickster, he even faked his own Death during that same issue, and that lasted a couple of years, he was training Roma at the moment, I believe he let that happen, to make Roma nervous, to stregthen her resolve.
She was to be the next Omniversal Guardian.
He often said that Roma was to soft
Originally posted by newjak86
Like I said Omniversal power is ability to control and manipulate everything in the Omniverse meaning nothing is beyond the scope of your power in the Omniverse. Non of that has been shown Multiversal and Univesal levels have been shown but not Omniversal.
I understand that, I was showing you scans of Merlin's capabilities with JUST the Sword.
If he's controlling One Multi-verse and he has a bunch of others floating around, how do you know they're not all there?
Do you really think the Artist is going to draw a billion billion little Chess boards? That's what the statements are there for, to fill in the blanks of what can't be drawn.
By ONE Chess piece being able to create a Universe on it's own says alot, by Roma saying the Mutli-verse depends on the Game says more.
By Merlin having many Chessboards in his Realm says he obviously is capable of manipulating more than ONE Multi-verse.
Originally posted by newjak86
Your telling me based solely on Universal and Multiversal feats that CB can weild Omniversal power and as such the chaoswave was Omniversal as well.
The Chaos Wave you can check at the Official Marvel site, it was collapsing the Omni-verse, like it or not.
Again, you with the Multiversal Feat,
He ONLY had EXCALIBUR,
that is NOT the full package,
EXCALIBUR and the AMULET of RIGHT, TOGETHER, can Re-Write the Omni-verse.
I will find you more specific scans.
Why is everybody talking about Jean Grey? She is the avatar, but this is about WHITE CROWN PHOENIX, not Jean and all her other incarnations. Meggans actions stopped the wave there was no more mention of the wave after that issue!! Wanda recreated 616 earth, the chaoswave was wiping out earths, not everything, after the wave she was only mucking with reality on a global scale. When white crown Phoenix held that universe, there was nothing that said it was symbolic, it said and showed her holding a universe from the center of creation. We should all stop posting WCP against anybody, it will always end never. There is no force in marvel greater than the Phoenix, just ask Reed Richards whom some of you think created the universe (so he can beat wanda and eternity too right?) Remember he also attributed the big bang to the Phoenix or whatever you want to call it. The abstracts (the LV included) gave homage to the Phoenix, is it because Phoenix is mostly female? If it was superman he'd beat the hell out of wanda right? Everything I've seen shows me that the people who are totally against Phoenix are simply against Phoenix, all others have not been on either side, they just want valid proof (other than post after tired post of the same thing) that Wanda is better, you can't prove it because it's not true.
