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Originally posted by Nikkolas
And finally, this person has a question for me because I posted those origin scans but you're the one who has the issue so it's better suited for you i reckon.

"I have a question, though- where does that Fourth version come from? It mentions the Enigma Force empowering Galactus, which is rather interesting, as it raises a lot of questions regarding Galactus and his relationship to the Microverse/Captain Universe. Is it supposed to be the same Enigma Force?"

The Enigma Force was the term used by the Earth X writers,
to define the Sentience of the Universe.

Captain Universe is the living essence of the Universe:

If Captain Universe dies, every living being in the Universe dies:

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Don't ask Mr. M anything about DC. He doesn't know enough to be an authority.

I have Zero Hour. 🙂

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Mr. Master, can Mad Jim Jaspers beat the IG?

IMO?

Yes.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have Zero Hour. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
🤨

They're both in the erasing Timelines business.

Genis was seen by Songbird and Zemo in the definite Future,
erasing every Possible Future of the 616 Universe.

Genis reached this "No holding back" level during HOM,

and he displayed the same scale of power (which is just "no holding back"😉 during the Insane saga.

Now if there's another Parallax more powerful than the Zero Hour incarnation I don't know.

I was comparing Genis to the Zero Hour cat. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
But Parallax, [Hal], appeared in far more then just the Zero Hour issues.

🤨 Back at ya.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
You know much about Parallax from the crisis Zero Hour in DC?

is there anyone who be a good match for him?

Read, absorb, reply. 😛

Originally posted by Mr Master
Read, absorb, reply. 😛

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have Zero Hour,

Parallax was experienced enough and inadvertantly was causing other Realities to blink in and out.

When you said that, you were probably referencing this scan:

Thus, you might want to know that the above scan, was not in a single Zero Hour comic. doped

Hence the reason I referenced other appearances of Parallax [Hal]. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Before you made such an arrogant response,

glare

Originally posted by Galan007
you might want to consider the fact that you made this statement:
When you said that, you were probably referencing this scan:
Thus, you might want to know that the above scan, was not in a single Zero Hour comic.
Hence the reason I referenced other appearances of Parallax [Hal].

Isn't this event connected? (not the Arcs)

When I said Zero Hour Parallax was inadvertantly mucking up other Realities
because of his Zero Hour actions,

I was right.

The Arcs are different but the illustrations/depictions are 100%
in correspondence with each other. 🙂

"Until Zero Hour ... Parallax attempted to create new World's and Timelines,
Fool that he was UNABLE to Control the forces he'd unleashed,
entire Timelines began to collapse"

"as alternate Timelines seeped in and out of existence"

................................................................................

So the SAME Parallax that erased One Universe,
is the same Parallax that was blinking Realities in and out of existence.

I believe that's what I said.

However his level of control is a matter of perspective. Hal had no care for the other timelines, and planned on replacing everything. He was creating his blank page for creation and planned on making more than one universe. To another, he may have looked reckless, but he was doing exactly as intended from his own vision and by the context of the story.

And the moment they're discussing with the realities blinking in and out takes place prior to everything being erased as seen in in your other scans. Notice how the final scan [which is only a very very rough overview mind you, given that its only a couple fragmented statements.] - that it mentions the part of realities blinking in and out before the timeline was completely erased[e.g; the crescendo of the event].

Originally posted by Juntai
However his level of control is a matter of perspective. Hal had no care for the other timelines, and planned on replacing everything. He was creating his blank page for creation and planned on making more than one universe.

Did they follow up on the story and retconned what was said in a further issue?

Cause in the scan it's saying he attempted to create Timelines and instead was unable to control that affect, so he ended up inadvertantly collapsing Timelines and blinking Alternate Timelines aswell.

Originally posted by Juntai
To another, he may have looked reckless,
but he was doing exactly as intended from his own vision and by the context of the story.

Cool, just tell me where to find this alternate explanation.

Originally posted by Juntai
And the moment they're discussing with the realities blinking in and out takes place prior to everything being erased as seen in in your other scans. Notice how the final scan [which is only a very very rough overview mind you, given that its only a couple fragmented statements.] - that it mentions the part of realities blinking in and out before the timeline was completely erased[e.g; the crescendo of the event].

I think the "crescendo" he's talking about is the Timelines that were collapsing,
until the Prime Timeline collapsed.

This is definitely after Parallax erased that Universe I believe according to that scan.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Did they follow up on the story and retconned what was said in a further issue?

Cause in the scan it's saying he attempted to create Timelines and instead was unable to control that affect, so he ended up inadvertantly collapsing Timelines and blinking Alternate Timelines aswell.

Cool, just tell me where to find this alternate explanation.

I think the "crescendo" he's talking about is the Timelines that were collapsing,
until the Prime Timeline collapsed.

This is definitely after Parallax erased that Universe I believe according to that scan.

It certainly couldn't have been after the effect, because his universe hadn't even solidified yet by the time Spectre and crew defeated him, and they absorbed his energy universe and replaced it before it even hardened into reality so to speak. It wasn't 'real' yet, only in energy form. Nothing involving timelines happened during this portion of the event, because no reality existed at the time.
For someone who claims to have these stories and read them, you certainly didn't understand them. 🙁

Originally posted by Juntai
What you're not getting is that when finally the prime timeline collapsed, is when issue 0 of Zero Hour starts, when ALL of the timelines are gone. Side-issues prior to this issue are the ones that show characters running amock through timelines, such as the Titans, Waverider, etc. During these issues, we'd see those timelines get wiped out.
And then there were none.
The crescendo/peak of the event CERTAINLY being the showdown with Hal. That point is pretty much inarguable that the peak of any story is when they meet the final bad-guy for the final battle of all reality.

It certainly couldn't have been after the effect, because his universe hadn't even solidified yet by the time Spectre and crew defeated him, and they absorbed his energy universe and replaced it before it even hardened into reality so to speak. It wasn't 'real' yet, only in energy form. Nothing involving timelines happened during this portion of the event, because no reality existed at the time.

I see.

Originally posted by Juntai
For someone who claims to have these stories and read them,
you certainly didn't understand them.

I don't think this comment is necessary.

(just give a thorough view point like you did above and keep it respectful)

I don't have the issue with the last scan, I have Zero Hour, (no prequels or tie-ins) I didn't know the specifics to that scenerio except for what it was referencing, that's what had me mixed up.

I appologize for the last part. My bad.
😍

Originally posted by Juntai
I appologize for the last part. My bad.
😍

friends

Originally posted by Mr Master
glare

Isn't this event connected? (not the Arcs)

When I said Zero Hour Parallax was inadvertantly mucking up other Realities
because of his Zero Hour actions,

I was right.

The Arcs are different but the illustrations/depictions are 100%
in correspondence with each other. 🙂

"Until [B]Zero Hour ... Parallax attempted to create new World's and Timelines,
Fool that he was UNABLE to Control the forces he'd unleashed,
entire Timelines began to collapse"

"as alternate Timelines seeped in and out of existence"

................................................................................

So the SAME Parallax that erased One Universe,
is the same Parallax that was blinking Realities in and out of existence.

I believe that's what I said. [/B]

You said the event took place in the Zero Hour issues themselves.

But that evidence wasn't litterally from those issues.

[i think he meant that]. 🙂

I have a question,
If the HOTI couldent reach death then why was thanos able to Nullfy her with the UN?
Is it because the UN inncodent non-cannon?

Originally posted by Merlyn
I think he was being litteral.

You said the event took place in the Zero Hour issues themselves.

But that evidence wasn't litterally from those issues.

[i think he meant that].

You're right.

I was pointing out that they were both the same Parallax, which they are,
but from different Arcs.

Jun updated me on the Timeline between Zero Hour and it's Tie-ins.

Originally posted by Priest
If the HOTI couldent reach death then why was thanos able to Nullfy her with the UN?

Evidently Thanos was given power over All Reality, which is All of Time & Space.

Thanos was everything within the Omniverse.

Anything outside the Omniverse, (Beyond Space & Time) was out of Thanos's reach.

Apparently,

Thanos only had to erase the Multiverse in order to fix the Universal "Flaw"
(that would've ended Marvel)

On the UN and Death acccount:

Thanos nullified Death in her own Realm, outside of Space & Time.

Originally posted by Priest
Is it because the UN inncodent non-cannon?

Inncodent?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Evidently Thanos was given power over All Reality, which is All of Time & Space.

Thanos was everything within the Omniverse.

Anything outside the Omniverse, (Beyond Space & Time) was out of Thanos's reach.

Apparently,

Thanos only had to erase the Multiverse in order to fix the Universal "Flaw"
(that would've ended Marvel)

On the UN and Death acccount:

Thanos nullified Death in her own Realm, outside of Space & Time.

Inncodent?

Originally posted by Takion
Since when the hell were you a D.C fan,

I'm not.

Originally posted by Takion
I thought you were all marvel.

I am.

It's just I have several Cosmic Arcs from DC that have interested me,
one of them is Zero Hour.

I didn't realize, like Marvel, DC also uses Tie-ins (other Titles) to define an Arc.

"We learn as we go" 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm not.

I am.

It's just I have several Cosmic Arcs from DC that have interested me,
one of them is Zero Hour.

I didn't realize, like Marvel, DC also uses Tie-ins (other Titles) to define an Arc.

"We learn as we go" 🙂