Originally posted by Utrigita
Hey Mr MasterAbout the IB isn't it incorrect to say that it created the Omniverse seeing as how the marvel was first only a single universe and then expanded slowly but not by IB doing.
Also I don't know where but its believed that Scathran is a agent of the Beyonders but that speculation at best.
Originally posted by Utrigita
About the IB isn't it incorrect to say that it created the Omniverse seeing as how the marvel was first only a single universe and then expanded slowly but not by IB doing.
It began as a Universe and has been expanding ever since.
It didn't just begin to expand one day, it was created as an expanding Universe.
It has now reached the scale of an Omniverse and it's still growing.
God/Toaa created the IB for that purpose, to create Reality and the Gems.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Also I don't know where but its believed that Scathran is a agent of the Beyonders but that speculation at best.
I never heard of that until kmc,
never saw it or read it in any bio or even a hint in any on panel reference,
and I never read that from any credible source either. (or any source at all for that matter)
Dark Angel merges her essence with that of Xavier, Albion, Strange, Death's Head and Harley:
In order to Re-make Earth 616,
while simultaneously separating Planet Earth from a copy Earth it had algamated with:
Even the "Time Guardian" is impressed:
The "Time Guardian" wasn't sure if he would've been able to Repair the Reality, himself.
Originally posted by Mr Master
It began as a Universe and has been expanding ever since.
It didn't just begin to expand one day, it was created as an expanding Universe.
It has now reached the scale of an Omniverse and it's still growing.God/Toaa created the IB for that purpose, to create Reality and the Gems.
I never heard of that until kmc,
never saw it or read it in any bio or even a hint in any on panel reference,
and I never read that from any credible source either. (or any source at all for that matter)
Okay
Wikipedia mentions it, not reliable true but I said speculation at best. Also a possible way to possibly explain the feat (PIS) that was preformed.
Originally posted by Utrigita
OkayWikipedia mentions it, not reliable true but I said speculation at best. Also a possible way to possibly explain the feat (PIS) that was preformed.
We might get some answers in the final and new updated issue of the Marvel Handbooks,
comes out at the end of the month.
But as of yet, I have the prior 3 issues, and nothing's been mentioned about Scathan.
But there has to be an explanation at some point or a retcon or an update on Scathan, cause even the LT's bio mentions the incident making it canon, it's unbelievable but true, it's unbelievable because it contradicts itself within the same page.
First paragraph: "The LT's only superior is TOAA" then nearing the end of his bio Protege was really able to copy his powers, 😕 then the mysterious Scathan (a Celestial) pwns the LT empowered Protege with a gesture. 🤨
Senseless to say the least.
I'll look into it with more vigor from now on though, see if I find the key to this paradox.
Originally posted by Mr Master
We might get some answers in the final and new updated issue of the Marvel Handbooks,comes out at the end of the month.
But as of yet, I have the prior 3 issues, and nothing's been mentioned about Scathan.
But there has to be an explanation at some point or a retcon or an update on Scathan, cause even the LT's bio mentions the incident making it canon, it's unbelievable but true, it's unbelievable because it contradicts itself within the same page.
First paragraph: "The LT's only superior is TOAA" then nearing the end of his bio Protege was really able to copy his powers, 😕 then the mysterious Scathan (a Celestial) pwns the LT empowered Protege with a gesture. 🤨
Senseless to say the least.
I'll look into it with more vigor from now on though, see if I find the key to this paradox.
Thanks.
What a load of crap Marvel have made there.
Proof that the God in FF was TOAA:
From http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
Nevertheless, there has been evidence pointing to an all-powerful entity, the one the cosmic Living Tribunal calls “The One Above All.” The Fantastic Four recently encountered such a being when storming the gates of heaven to rescue their friend Ben Grimm from death. The being took the form of a kindly artist toiling at his drawing board. He praised the Fantastic Four for their persistence in exploring the Marvel Universe and promised extraordinary new wonders to be discovered as the years go by.
From the same site:
Sole survivor of the universe existing before the Big Bang, Galactus is perhaps the most feared being in the cosmos. Untold billions of years ago, he was born the humanoid Galan on the planet Taa, a wondrous paradise of scientific and social achievement; however, his universe was in its final stages, with all matter plunging towards a central point via the "Big Crunch", collapsing into a new "Cosmic Egg", a sphere of disorganized, compact primordial matter. Galan, a space explorer, discovered a radiation-plague threatening all of Taa. Though he was initially scoffed at, the truth became clear as the people of surrounding planets perished. Despite the efforts of Taa's greatest scientists, no cure could be found, and the population began to die off. Galan convinced the handful of remaining survivors to die gloriously by flying a starship into the blazing cosmic cauldron. The others were killed by the intense radiation, but Galan was filled with new energy and saved by the Phoenix Force of the dying universe. The sentient energy spoke to Galan as it brought him into the Egg.
Galactus flew through a cosmic egg... That was created from the rebirth of one universe.
Why was it that you said Edifice Rex could have destroyed the Omniverse?
Originally posted by King Kandy
Proof that the God in FF was TOAA:From http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
Nevertheless, there has been evidence pointing to an all-powerful entity, the one the cosmic Living Tribunal calls “The One Above All.” [B]The Fantastic Four recently encountered such a being
when storming the gates of heaven to rescue their friend Ben Grimm from death. The being took the form of a kindly artist toiling at his drawing board. He praised the Fantastic Four for their persistence in exploring the Marvel Universe and promised extraordinary new wonders to be discovered as the years go by. [/B]
👆
I was just stating this in that Classic Beyonder vs THOTI thread.
Originally posted by King Kandy
From the same site:Sole survivor of the universe existing before the Big Bang, Galactus is perhaps the most feared being in the cosmos. Untold billions of years ago, he was born the humanoid Galan on the planet Taa, a wondrous paradise of scientific and social achievement; however, his universe was in its final stages, with all matter plunging towards a central point via the "Big Crunch", collapsing into a new "Cosmic Egg", a sphere of disorganized, compact primordial matter. Galan, a space explorer, discovered a radiation-plague threatening all of Taa. Though he was initially scoffed at, the truth became clear as the people of surrounding planets perished. Despite the efforts of Taa's greatest scientists, no cure could be found, and the population began to die off. Galan convinced the handful of remaining survivors to die gloriously by flying a starship into the blazing cosmic cauldron. The others were killed by the intense radiation, but Galan was filled with new energy and saved by the Phoenix Force of the dying universe. The sentient energy spoke to Galan as it brought him into the Egg.
Galactus flew through a cosmic egg... That was created from the rebirth of one universe.
Why was it that you said Edifice Rex could have destroyed the Omniverse?
That one Universe,
was born as an expanding Universe which later grew into the Omniverse of today.
If Rex was able to bring Reality back to it's Cosmic Egg,
then that would mean folding the Omniverse into a singularity (or Cosmic Egg)
Remember, the Omniverse is One big separated Universe called the "Marvel Universe."
What takes place in the 616 Reality impacts ALL of Marvel: (the Omniverse)
This is from the same page you got your info from:
"The Marvel Universe is renowned for the presence of fantastic superhuman beings, the supernatural, and the cosmic. Although considered the “prime reality” in which events of universal significance occur (and, indeed, megauniversal and/or omniuniversal significance), this reality is designated as number 616 (thus, “Earth-616”) to differentiate it among the infinite numbers of alternate realities."
The 616 Reality seems to be the foundation of the Omniverse.
Originally posted by King KandyThink of the CE as infinite potential energy, [in the litteral sense], which was originally contained within something the size of a drinking cup...
Yeah, but what about the other multiverses that are so alien to the 616 that they don't even share the cosmic hierarchy...? How can those be based on the 616 mold?
When the CE was 'cracked' this truly infinite potential energy, erupted into a wave of creative kinetic energy, which started expanding in all directions at an exponential rate.
This wave gave birth to the first Universe, but expanded still, until it became a Multiverse, then a Megaverse, and so on and so forth...
This energy is still expanding/creating to this day.... Truly it is responsible for ALL creation in Marvel.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The [B]Living Tribunal makes a cameo in the New She-Hulk issue.The LT holds and Judges Two Universes (616 and the Ultimate) one in each hand:
She Hulk talked the LT out of replacing the 616 Reality with the Ultimate Universe. [/B]
How exactly would the Ultimate universe "Replace" the 616? Would it become the new "Base" universe?
Originally posted by King Kandy
I'd like some proof that Galan's universe was the only one in existence at the time.
I think I found a way to prove this in the following post.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Chibi Eternity!!
What does chibi mean? 😂
Originally posted by King Kandy
How exactly would the Ultimate universe "Replace" the 616?
Would it become the new "Base" universe?
I assume. The LT can do anything, but of course it was never gonna happen, and if it would've happened I'm sure somewhere along the line it would have been rectified. 616 has been warped several times in several manners.
