Originally posted by Utrigita
Mr Master the current used marvel Universe is the Marvel Multiverse.
The Marvel Universe = the Omniverse.
Originally posted by Utrigita
we have never seen anything from the omniverse, nore megaverse for that matter.
I don't understand what you mean.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Edit: didn't a cosmic Cube once destroy and remake the omniverse???
Yes it did.
In an Iron-Man 616 Reality crossover with Acclaim's hero X-O.
It's not the first time a single Cube threatens the Omniverse.
It happened before in the Chaos Engine arc.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The Marvel Universe = the Omniverse.I don't understand what you mean.
Yes it did.
In an Iron-Man 616 Reality crossover with Acclaim's hero X-O.
It's not the first time a single Cube threatens the Omniverse.
It happened before in the Chaos Engine arc.
Mr. M, can Korvac beat Galactus
Can all of the Watchers defeat Galactus
Originally posted by Mr Master
The Marvel Universe = the Omniverse.I don't understand what you mean.
Yes it did.
In an Iron-Man 616 Reality crossover with Acclaim's hero X-O.
It's not the first time a single Cube threatens the Omniverse.
It happened before in the Chaos Engine arc.
Okay will try and be more precise this time.
The current Marvel Universe is the Omniverse correct? But the only part (expect for the ultraverse) we have actually have had comics about is the Prime Multiverse where the 616 universe is located therefore isn't it incorrect to say that the current marvel universe include the omniverse since we have never seen stories that was located outside the prime multiverse.
Originally posted by Utrigita
The current Marvel Universe is the Omniverse correct?
Yes.
Originally posted by Utrigita
But the only part (expect for the ultraverse) we have actually have had comics about is the Prime Multiverse where the 616 universe is located therefore isn't it incorrect to say that the current marvel universe include the omniverse since we have never seen stories that was located outside the prime multiverse.
I see.
The Ultraverse is in one Multiverse and many stories came from that Multiverse.
The New Universe is also located in yet another Multiverse.
(that's where the Starbrand came from)
Two Megaverses were depicted on panel also.
There are also other Realms that are detached from Space & Time
and exist outside of any Reality (like the domain of the Cosmic Anchors)
The Masters of the Matrix were also depicted in another Multiverse (I posted the scans)
That's off the top of my head, I'll flip some pages and find them all.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Really? Because I remember you saying that Handbook>On Panel when talking about whether Beyonder was an Inhuman.
You always remember something K.
Marvel.com simply spoiled the anticipation by telling us what actually took place.
It's no real surprise though,
all the relevant 06' and 2007 Bios still have Beyonder coming from the Beyond Realm,
powered by Cosmic Cube energy, just like MM.
Anywho, like I believe we left this done issue then,
we'll see in future arcs if they were lying.
Originally posted by King Kandy
If the Handbook totaly contradicts the on-panel evidence, I don't know how you can say with a straight face that the issue is "Up in the air". After all, by you're OWN CRITERIA the bio is "Garbage".
Dude, get off my case.
It's not a freakin bio dogs, it was stated in an update column, talking about Illuminati.
The BioS in all the relevant Handbooks and in Marvel.com haven't changed.
Beyonder is the same Beyonder that was retconned into a Cube Being,
that's all I was adding. Jeesh, it's friday ... chill out. 🙂
Originally posted by King Kandy
???I must have missed that. What does it say?
I'll try and get the direct link, but it was basically saying that Beyonder
manipulated their minds into making up and believing that he was an Inhuman/Mutant.
Apparently he was preparing them for his comeback, (which will happen soon)
they didn't spill all the beans,
but they did say that story has it's reasons for Beyonder concocting it.
Originally posted by Mr MasterKorvac was able to make subtle alterations to the Fabric of the Universe.
He was even able to conceal himself from Eternity.
And you don't think Galactus could have done the same.
The energy Korvac "stole" from Taa II can probably be extrated by Galactus. And Galactus can probably like the did during the secret war change the entire station into energy thus gaining much more energy then Korvac did, also if we take this scan and say Knowlegde is power then Galactus being the oldest being in the universe most be one of the most powerful beings that exist.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Yes.I see.
The Ultraverse is in one Multiverse and many stories came from that Multiverse.
The New Universe is also located in yet another Multiverse.
(that's where the Starbrand came from)Two Megaverses were depicted on panel also.
There are also other Realms that are detached from Space & Time
and exist outside of any Reality (like the domain of the Cosmic Anchors)The Masters of the Matrix were also depicted in another Multiverse (I posted the scans)
That's off the top of my head, I'll flip some pages and find them all.
But if we take into account that destroying folding the 616 universe will result in the collapse of the Omniverse then Abraxas surely cannot be the multiversal abstract of destruction???
Also didn't Roma say when the Human Torch was close to breaking a Crystal that it erase that part (the 616) from the Omniverse nothing mentioned about it bringing about the imminent destruction of the omniverse.
But thats for the update on the different realities 😄
Originally posted by Utrigita
And you don't think Galactus could have done the same.
That wasn't your question though.
Your question was:
Originally posted by Utrigita
didn't Korvac just tap into the power for a moment while Galactus was away???
And so I showed you the scan from Avengers #175 where Korvac absorbs
the energies of big G's World Ship.
he didn't just tap, he bacame.
Originally posted by Utrigita
The energy Korvac "stole" from Taa II can probably be extrated by Galactus. And Galactus can probably like the did during the secret war change the entire station into energy thus gaining much more energy then Korvac did,
It's the same Ship.
Originally posted by Utrigita
also if we take this scan and say Knowlegde is power then Galactus being the oldest being in the universe most be one of the most powerful beings that exist.
Galactus is up there in power, but there are others that are above him.
Knowledge is power, but knowledge is one side of the coin.
The Alien Entity needed Reed's mind to re-create the Omniverse.
The Alien Entity had the power, but needed the knowledge of the Cosmos.
Originally posted by Utrigita
But if we take into account that destroying folding the 616 universe will result in the collapse of the Omniverse then Abraxas surely cannot be the multiversal abstract of destruction???
???
Abraxas is the opposite of Eternity. (Eternity being creation ... Abraxas being destruction)
Eternity = the Multiverse
Abraxas = Anti-Multiverse
btw. Abraxas manifested way outside the 616 Reality after Galactus "died"
Originally posted by Utrigita
Also didn't Roma say when the Human Torch was close to breaking a Crystal that it erase that part (the 616) from the Omniverse nothing mentioned about it bringing about the imminent destruction of the omniverse.
True.
But Eternity & Infinity themselves were hanging out with Roma in that scene:
Eternity & Infinity are more than capable of remaking any part of themselves.
Surely Roma wasn't threatening all of existence
with the Embodiments of said existence there.
Eternity & Infinity knew what Roma might do, and were probably prepared for it.
Nullify 616 ... get rid of the virus ... rebuild 616 to it's normalcy without the virus.
It's takes Time for the Omniverse to collapse in a 616 chain reaction,
Eternity/Infinity have all the Time necessary to re-establish 616.
That's my take on it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
That wasn't your question though.Your question was:
And so I showed you the scan from Avengers #175 where Korvac absorbs
the energies of big G's World Ship.he didn't just tap, he bacame.
It's the same Ship.
Galactus is up there in power, but there are others that are above him.
Knowledge is power, but knowledge is one side of the coin.
The Alien Entity needed Reed's mind to re-create the Omniverse.
The Alien Entity had the power, but needed the knowledge of the Cosmos.
???
Abraxas is the opposite of Eternity. (Eternity being creation ... Abraxas being destruction)
Eternity = the Multiverse
Abraxas = Anti-Multiverse
btw. Abraxas manifested way outside the 616 Reality after Galactus "died"
True.
But Eternity & Infinity themselves were hanging out with Roma in that scene:
Eternity & Infinity are more than capable of remaking any part of themselves.
Surely Roma wasn't threatening all of existence
with the Embodiments of said existence there.Eternity & Infinity knew what Roma might do, and were probably prepared for it.
Nullify 616 ... get rid of the virus ... rebuild 616 to it's normalcy without the virus.
It's takes Time for the Omniverse to collapse in a 616 chain reaction,
Eternity/Infinity have all the Time necessary to re-establish 616.That's my take on it.
Sorry just got a little fired up 😂
About the Abraxas: Abraxas would by you own account eventually bring about the destruction of the omniverse since 1. destroying the 616 will eventually result in a folding of the omniverse 2. No Eternity nore Infinity would be around to rebuild the 616 reality (Abraxas having defeated them) to prevent such a folding, thus Abraxas would, by this Logic, eventually bring about the destruction of the Omniverse. Thus he can be called the omniversal embordiment of destruction (this is streching it I know)
