Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

Started by Mr Master178 pages
Originally posted by lordboo
mr master where have you been?

My internet is down in my house, I'm at my cousin's crib right now.

This is why I wasn't online this past week,
I should be up and running in a few days..

Originally posted by lordboo
how would the power/reality gem affect mjj warping powers if he obtained said gems?

He'd be unstoppable.

Only a handful might be able to challenge him.

I mean without said items MJJ >>> Merlyn.

Merlyn = absolute Omniversal power, so go figure. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
My internet is down in my house, I'm at my cousin's crib right now.

This is why I wasn't online this past week,
I should be up and running in a few days..

He'd be unstoppable.

Only a handful might be able to challenge him.

I mean without said items MJJ >>> Merlyn.

Merlyn = absolute Omniversal power, so go figure. 🙂

i thought you'd deserted us !

i reckon he be unstoppable maybe even to LT?

Welcome Back, Mr. M

Originally posted by guy222
What do u think about the Adjudicator
I thought it was pretty tuff...

Adjudicator's power works solely on thought, [ie. all it need do is think on something, and it is done]... According to Surfer, "there is nothing it cannot do":

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It transversed UniverseS at the 'true' speed of thought:

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Was omnipresent:

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Survived a full on scream from Blackbolt without even flinching:

Pretty cool stuff, imo.

Am I the only one who thinks the "Zombie Plague" should be somewhere on the list?

mr master
do you think with the ig it would be possible to visit the destroyed previous universe,seeing as the gems are from the infinity being?

Originally posted by Galan007
I thought it was pretty tuff...

Pretty cool stuff, imo.

Absolutely.

The Watcher & Galactus were powerless against this beast as well.

In fact, this entity which is the embodiment of the Cosmic Tribunal, seemed all powerful.

According to Galactus, anything with a mind, is susceptible to it's dominance.
Only a single unique mindless race of the universe could overcome the Cosmic Tribunal's rule/power.

Originally posted by Galan007
Am I the only one who thinks the "Zombie Plague" should be somewhere on the list?

I don't know much about the Zombie Universe.

But if I'm not mistaken, it's an alternate reality (of 616) where every being is a Zombie.

I'll be looking into it, but for now, tell me about the plague.

Originally posted by lordboo
mr master
do you think with the ig it would be possible to visit the destroyed previous universe,

seeing as the gems are from the infinity being?

It's impossible for me to comment without speculating here,
because there's no info on panel or in bios I can draw on to suggest a sound opinion.

But from what I know,
the beginning of the Marvel Universe is cemented in the origin of the 616 Reality.

That's where the Alien Entity & Reed landed when they travelled as far back in time as possible.

Imo, one can't reach the previous universe,
because it's been completely eradicated.

One would have to reach the beginning of the current Universe, (birth of the 616 reality)
and then re-create the previous universe in order to make it a designation with substance.

Even so, I think this is impossible though,
because the substance that made up the previous universe,
created the current Marvel Universe and the 7 Gems.

Yo, Where does Nemesis (Not IB) fit on the hierarchy?

Could she beat LT?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yo, Where does Nemesis (Not IB) fit on the hierarchy?

They're technically the same Entity,
only one didn't reach it's true potential (Nemesis)

THOTI (God)
Infinity Being (God)
The LT & Scathan (no proof of Scathan being above, so I'll leave them as equals)

The Alien Entity (un-official embodiment of Marvel)
The BeyonderS (you seen what a single Cube can do)
Edifice Rex (can return Marvel to it's Cosmic Egg)

Jaspers 616 (stll waiting to see what he will be like with Fury's powers)
Jamie Braddock (manipulated the WHR, manipulating events across the Omniverse)

Merlyn (Omniversal)
Havok/Nexus (Omniversal)
Captain Britain (Sword/Amulet) (Omniversal)
Meggan (FP) (paused the Chaos Wave for a moment)
Nth Man (a living Multiverse/Multiversal black hole)
Nemesis (cross Multiversal manipulation on a universal scale)

Originally posted by King Kandy
Could she beat LT?

The shambled incarnation of the Ultraforce/Avengers certainly couldn't.

It never had a chance to realize it's potential because the Gems (at that point sentient)
were struggling for control over the Conciousness of Nemesis, driving it mad.

Nevertheless, Nemesis obliterated the 616 Reality and the Ultraverse,
and then created a single Reality which was a mixture of both.

That's a Multi-Universal restructuring task across Two separate MultiverseS.

This is an awesome feat,
because Nemesis was sustaining All Reality from collapsing in on itself due to 616's destruction.
All the while it hadn't reached it's potential because of the reasons stated above.

When Nemesis was split up, 4 of the Gems that made it up (Power-Soul-Mind-Space)
began creating UniverseS back to back and stacking them on top of one another.
(basically creating a Reality on top of another reality on top of another and so on)
This was an un-natural creation process and nearly collapsed the entire Omniverse.

A further impression was made by the Time & Reality Gems,
who managed to revert everything that had happened,
(thus erasing the UniverseS/Realities that had been created by the 4 Gems)
And then,
finally creating a proper Ultraverse that was in harmony with the rest of creation.

Um? how could Scathan be equal to LT if he is over Protege? Protege and LT are exactly equal in power.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Um? how could Scathan be equal to LT if he is over Protege? Protege and LT are exactly equal in power.
Am I wrong in thinking that Scathan only bagged Protege, from behind?
Which, doesn't even mean he should approach LT level, just that he bagged someone...

That's like saying USAgent is above Wolverine because he knocked him out with a cheapshot, from behind.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Um? how could Scathan be equal to LT if he is over Protege?
Protege and LT are exactly equal in power.

We don't know the specifics of what exactly or how exactly Scathan managed to do that.

I'm actually being generous by putting Scathan at LT's level,
considering the severity of the PIS invovled.

Also, Protege had LT's power for a very short moment,
which leads me to believe he didn't or couldn't harness LT's full abilities.

Protege never confronted LT,
Protege never proved to be LT's equal and Protege never defeated LT.

It could very well be that Scathan is Protege's "kryptonite"
or that TOAA gave Scathan that moment of glory, we just don't know for sure.

But we do know that Scathan has atleast LT status in Marvel,
is Scathan above LT?

LT's bio doesn't state that, we both know what LT's bio states:

(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006)

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY Superior ... is the One Above All"
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Until further depictions/info is released by Marvel,

imo, LT & Scathan are equals,

and even this summation makes me unconfortable,
because it directly contradicts what has been historically established as fact,
on panel and in bios.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Am I wrong in thinking that Scathan only bagged Protege, from behind?
Which, doesn't even mean he should approach LT level, just that he bagged someone...

That's like saying USAgent is above Wolverine because he knocked him out with a cheapshot, from behind.


I find it hard to believe that he took Protege by surprise when you consider:

1. LT is Omnescient.

2. Hawkgod yelled "Scathan the celestial does NOT approve" before Scathan did anything.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'll be looking into it, but for now, tell me about the plague.
I was thinking the plague should be somewhere on the list, mainly due to it's infectiveness...

All it takes is a scratch, and even the most powerful of beings are transformed into Zombies.

But I can't really place it myself, but once you've read that series, we can both try and find a place for it. srug

Originally posted by Mr Master
Absolutely.

The Watcher & Galactus were powerless against this beast as well.

In fact, this entity which is the embodiment of the Cosmic Tribunal, seemed all powerful.

According to Galactus, anything with a mind, is susceptible to it's dominance.
Only a single unique mindless race of the universe could overcome the Cosmic Tribunal's rule/power.

So it was a different version of LT???

Originally posted by Galan007
I was thinking the plague should be somewhere on the list, mainly due to it's infectiveness...

All it takes is a scratch, and even the most powerful of beings are transformed into Zombies.

Interesting.

Originally posted by Galan007
But I can't really place it myself, but once you've read that series, we can both try and find a place for it.

As soon as I'm updated with info I'll proceed on the matter.

There's like an entire series out there on the Zombie verse,
so it'll take me some time to get all the info, (pressed for time nowadays) 🙁

Mr. M, have an opinion on Qabiri

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