Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually she completely tore the Omniverse to pieces,
She then Re-created the Omniverse with some differences with a phrase.
Originally posted by Mr Master
They were Warped along with the Omniverse. (Everything was)
Originally posted by Mr MasterThe funniest part is that you're just realizing that. lol
On another note,is it just me, or are there a bunch of new pinheads roaming the vs forums?
I've never seen so many intelligent brickheads in kmc like now.
(before we had the usual suspects, but now ... doh)It's ridiculous ... I think I'm gonna start avoiding it,
to many ...
I don't even know what to call them "fanboys"
or "overly proud" cats, that seem to abhor being wrong.Even with overwhelming evidence against them,
they come back with more sign23 (and NO proof of their own)
Originally posted by King Kandy
I would like proof that her warps (Rather then the Chaos Wave) Affected the Omniverse.
The Chaos Wave, was her Warp.
That's why so many cats are confused,
they continue to disassociate the two as two separate entites.
At's all here, irrefutable:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=425758&pagenumber=139
I found this last night, more solidification:
A scan that directly associates the Chaos Wave with Wanda ... On Panel:
Nightcrawler tells Cyclops,
"Rachel mentioned something from her dream
about a powerful 'Chaos Wave'
Scott, what's going on Just what are we dealing with here? ... "
Scott responds,
"Good Lord, Wanda, what else have YOU done to us?"
Originally posted by King Kandy
How do you figure? Can you prove that every single being in the Omniverse was warped?
"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave of unimaginable power,
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it"
Originally posted by King Kandy
How about LT? Was He?
Of course not.
Where LT is when Marvel gets completely folded is a mystery.
Originally posted by Galan007
[b]Update on the Marvel Zombies...======
Well after literally eating Ego the Living Planet:
======
We find that the Zombies have devoured almost every being in the entire Universe:[/B]
I completely forgot to talk about that.
I actually read Marvel Zombies #1 -5
(the most disturbing and hilarious madness I have ever come across thus far)
I have to add,
they killed Galactus (eating him) in order to venture into space by absorbing his power.
But they never killed Galactus straight up,
Galactus was at the peak of his weakness:
Galactus could've still owned the Zombies on their own,
in fact he was vaporizing a truckload of them,
then they retreated and devised a plan.
They developed a super canon with one shot,
they upgraded the canon with Surfer's power, which about 5 of them had absorbed,
then they shot Galactus and dropped him.
Then it was lunch time.
Originally posted by Mr MasterI don't necessarily think the Zombies should be ranked by power alone -- I was mainly thinking the Zombie scourge itself should be ranked based on it's ineffectiveness, [ie. the Zombies infected almost every single living being in their entire Universe].
I completely forgot to talk about that.I actually read Marvel Zombies #1 -5
(the most disturbing and hilarious madness I have ever come across thus far)I have to add,
they killed Galactus (eating him) in order to venture into space by absorbing his power.
But they never killed Galactus straight up,
Galactus was at the peak of his weakness:Galactus could've still owned the Zombies on their own,
in fact he was vaporizing a truckload of them,
then they retreated and devised a plan.They developed a super canon with one shot,
they upgraded the canon with Surfer's power, which about 5 of them had absorbed,
then they shot Galactus and dropped him.Then it was lunch time.
Naturally the scourge wouldn't be anywhere near the top of your list, but it should be somewhere on it, imo.
Originally posted by Merlyn
1). does anybody have the scan where Phoenix supposedly destroys a universe?
Originally posted by Merlyn
2). can someone show me a scan of braddock warping the whr? (i know these were already posted, but i can't find them.) 😮
If you're familiar with what the White Hot Room actually is, [ie. a Multiversal Nexus], then you also know how impressive Jamie warping it was. 😉
Originally posted by Mr Master
It was once argued that feat should not count because it took place in a crossover,
but during the "Chaos Engine Trilogy" (hard to get ... but 100% Canon)
another Cube was about to destroy the Omniverse again.
And this one was a baby Cube
(not even fully developed in terms of just becoming a Cosmic Containment Unit)
That baby Cube created 3 UniverseS from scratch and stacked them on top of 616.
Roma interfered and it's a long story but the she succeded in saving Reality.So you're right but,
Wanda crumbled the entire Omniverse,
and the BeyonderS are part of that Omniverse.Which tells me,
they were remade along with everything else within the Omniverse.I'm guessing they had to be spared when the Cube did the job considering it's their power.
....................................................................................These are the only cats that have completely erased and re-created Marvel:
Sis-Neg in 72' (when Marvel was a single Universe)
The Cosmic Cube in 96' (acting alone first, then manipulated by X-O & Iron Man)
Genis & Entropy in March 03' (they erased the Prime Multiverse, which took out Mavel)
Thanos/THOTI in May 03' (started with 616 and then swept All of Reality)
AE in 06' (folded all of Marvel's History, then re-created it all with Reed's mind)
....................................................................................But I must submit,
Marvel.com only recognizes 4 of them:Sis-Neg - Genis/Entropy - Thanos - AE
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
But like I said, according to the "Chaos Engine Trilogy"
(which Marvel does recognize)
the Cube is capable of this feat. (So imo, it counts)
Okay but it should also be noted that a single CC have destroyed and remade the omniverse which is basically what Wanda did. Also the fact that the Beyonders Dimension was warped doesn't really tell us anything IMO it's fully possible that they warped it right back the way it was previously to the Chaos Wave. ALso I would like to point out that the Beyonders in fact NEVER interferes ore experiments without the authorisation of the LT. Same thing would apply here I think, Also you are forgetting that Meggan harnessed the power of the Beyond she was capable of momentarily stopping the Chaos Wave now I believe she harnessed the power of a baby CC (ore something like that) and it's still a fraction of there try power.
All this said I wouldn't Put anyone except for LT (disregarding PIS and HOTU and TOAA) above the Beyonders.
Originally posted by Galan007
Keep in mind this scan/event is from, and only occurred in, a [b]"What If" comic:If you're familiar with what the White Hot Room actually is, [ie. a Multiversal Nexus], then you also know how impressive Jamie warping it was. 😉 [/B]
who else in marvel is capable of warping the whr?
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Hey Mr. M. A guy is asking about Master Order and Lord Chaos and if theya re universal or multiversal.He said
All the major Concepts/Abstracts have a totality and an infinite number of aspects.
The Totality being the complete concept,
(part of what makes up the Prime Multiverse)
the Aspects are Not separate entities, just the Totality broken off into pieces,
(part of what makes up a Universe)
So obviously one Aspect = one Universe, while the Totality = the Multiverse.
The thing is, you will never see Eternity, or Chaos, or Oblivion or any of them,
being refered to as Multiversal, or Multi-Order, or Multi-Death, or even Multi-Eternity.
(the infamous "Multi-Eternity" who does not exist,
that was just Captain Universe dubbing Eternity's Totality)
The power of the Totality of Eternity 616 resides within the 616 Reality,
(we know this because Dormammu & Umar usurped the Multiverse' power,
from withIN the 616 Reality ... yes, Dormy actually merged with Eternity's Totality from withIN 616)
So logic would suggest,
that all the Totality's of every major concept also resides withIn 616.
Which simply translates to 616 = the power of the Prime Multiverse.
(This makes sense, because 616 is the Multiverse, just separated into segments)
Remember yall, all of Marvel is just one huge Universe.
It began as such, and expanded into such an extreme,
that Marvel has categorized it's segments into UniverseS/MultiverseS/MegaverseS,
which together make up Marvel ... the Omniverse (as in All UniverseS)
But the Prime Multiverse, is the only Multiverse with sentient/conscious Concepts.
This is why Eternity/Infinity do not possess the power of the Omniverse, instead just the Prime Multiverse (which they make up entirely together)
The rest of the Omniverse is like outer clothing, it's attached to them,
but it does not play a role in their personal power.
The 616 Reality is the core of the Prime Multiverse,
and the foundation of the Omniverse.
Originally posted by Mr Master
But the Prime Multiverse, is the only Multiverse with sentient/conscious Concepts.
This is why Eternity/Infinity do not possess the power of the Omniverse, instead just the Prime Multiverse (which they make up entirely together)
That its what the narrator say in regardens to the LT administrating other clusters???
Originally posted by Utrigita
That its what the narrator say in regardens to the LT administrating other clusters???
Those other clusters do exist, but Marvel has never indulged in them.
Besides, the issue you're talking about made it seem as those clusters
were beyond comprehension, on a level (not necessarily higher or lower)
that's not even applicable to relevant reality.
Even the LT takes on a shape that is pointless to try and understand.
But Marvel did specify,
there are no hierarchy of concepts outside the Prime Multiverse:
Well, besides the Two Brothers we know about (Two Megaverses)
Originally posted by Mr Master
The power of the Totality of Eternity 616 resides within the 616 Reality,
(we know this because Dormammu & Umar usurped the Multiverse' power,
from withIN the 616 Reality ... yes, Dormy actually merged with Eternity's Totality from withIN 616)
This is how this should read:
The power of the Totality of Eternity/Infinity (Multiverse) resides within the 616 Reality,
(we know this because Dormammu & Umar usurped the Multiverse's power,
from withIN the 616 Reality ...
yes, Dormy actually merged with Eternity's Totality from withIN 616)
Originally posted by Mr Master
Those other clusters do exist, but Marvel has never indulged in them.
Besides, the issue you're talking about made it seem as those clusters
were beyond comprehension, on a level (not necessarily higher or lower)
that's not even applicable to relevant reality.
Even the LT takes on a shape that is pointless to try and understand.But Marvel did specify,
there are no hierarchy of concepts outside the Prime Multiverse:
Well, besides the Two Brothers we know about (Two Megaverses)
I remember On Panel Proof > Bio Statements
