Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

Started by Mr Master178 pages
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Mr. Master, you never debate anime battles, do you?

I don't know any of the anime cats.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Because a while ago someone suggested that you would have easily been able to shut up a group of idiots who thought a certain anime character could defeat Jaspers.

Wish I'd been there, was it here at kmc?

Originally posted by guy222
Its prolly a new cosmic 'badass'. Some rumors persists its Tiamut.

Interesting, where'd you hear that guy?

Originally posted by guy222
Mr. M, will u be reading the new 12 issue Eternals

Certainly.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Wait, when did a celestial get decapitated?

In Nova #8

Here's the relevant scans:
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The "Rip" (the end of Space/Time) where the Omniverse begins to die off in a collapse.

This is literally the end of the Omniverse's expansion:


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The "Rip" being explained:

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Mr. Master, you never debate anime battles, do you? Because a while ago someone suggested that you would have easily been able to shut up a group of idiots who thought a certain anime character could defeat Jaspers.
I'm just guessing, but was the group of idiots Phenomenol and friends, and was the character *snicker* Goku?

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't know any of the anime cats.

Wish I'd been there, was it here at kmc?

Interesting, where'd you hear that guy?

Certainly.

In Nova #8

Here's the relevant scans:
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The "Rip" (the end of Space/Time) where the Omniverse begins to die off in a collapse.

This is literally the end of the Omniverse's expansion:


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The "Rip" being explained:

Great issue 🙂

Just opinions on other forums regarding Tiamut

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I'm just guessing, but was the group of idiots Phenomenol and friends, and was the character *snicker* Goku?

A search for "Goku Jaspers" produces one result, this post.

Originally posted by King Kandy
A search for "Goku Jaspers" produces one result, this post.
I think he's talking about other places as well like Jplaya2023 of Superherohype is not a result on google?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I'm just guessing, but was the group of idiots Phenomenol and friends, and was the character *snicker* Goku?

No, it was a different group of idiots on a different forum, and a different character.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
No, it was a different group of idiots on a different forum, and a different character.
Who was the character?

Haruhi Suzumiya - a limited reality warper who can't affect more than a single universe. However the trolls kept making up a bunch of completely unsupported theories that were not backed up by any canon information (and actually contradicted by canon information in many cases - I even provided multiple quotes from the novels showing they were wrong) but they kept at it. What's really bad is that two of the people I was debating against were moderators on the board!

Proteus, as far as power goes, should be considered right up there, given Exiles #90 alone. The fact that he's hardly mentioned in this thread is shocking. Truly.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Haruhi Suzumiya - a limited reality warper who can't affect more than a single universe. However the trolls kept making up a bunch of completely unsupported theories that were not backed up by any canon information (and actually contradicted by canon information in many cases - I even provided multiple quotes from the novels showing they were wrong) but they kept at it. What's really bad is that two of the people I was debating against were moderators on the board!
Well, at least he's a reality warper.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Haruhi Suzumiya - a limited reality warper who can't affect more than a single universe. However the trolls kept making up a bunch of completely unsupported theories that were not backed up by any canon information (and actually contradicted by canon information in many cases - I even provided multiple quotes from the novels showing they were wrong) but they kept at it. What's really bad is that two of the people I was debating against were moderators on the board!

Wasn't Symmetric Chaos saying that she was equal to a merged Eternity/Infinity?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Well, at least he's a reality warper.
She.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Wasn't Symmetric Chaos saying that she was equal to a merged Eternity/Infinity?

In a way she is, as she's the embodiment of her entire universe, which is simply her dream and which she can alter and reset at will. However since only one universe is mentioned in the series she's probably more like Celestial level since we have absolutely no way of knowing what her power level would be in other realities.

Siege Perilous

I have a request master could you post the act that involved the Cosmic cubes... you know the one unit that constantly managed to create a duplication of 616 and then merge them... Would like to see the feat again, I believe the entire comic was posted here in the thread but 153 pages is to much to go through.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I have a request master could you post the act that involved the Cosmic cubes... you know the one unit that constantly managed to create a duplication of 616 and then merge them... Would like to see the feat again,

I would love to, unfortunately I still don't have that arc scanned, it's a tuffy to find.

All I have is Marvel's official references and descriptions of the event:

http://www.marveldirectory.com/miscellaneous/cosmiccube.htm

Doom demanded the Cube change the universe to match his dreams,
but this nascent (Infant) Cube could not enact such massive change,
and instead found a universe similar to Doom's desires, Earth-892,
and overlaid that onto Doom's universe (Earth-616).

The overlapping universes created great instability,
and had the side-effect of chronically draining both Doom and the Cube,
aging them at an accelerated rate.

Omniversal guardian Roma observed the destabilization,
and sent Earth-616's X-Men (who had been briefly outside their own universe) to investigate.

They failed to stop Doom, and instead the mutant Magneto gained control of the Cube,
and laid yet another universe on top of the pair in answer to Magneto's dreams.

Matters worsened when Earth-616's Red Skull, who had re-formed
and had been observing the chaos from a Catholite protected base on the moon,
stole the Cube
and laid yet a fourth reality on top of the others.

However, the X-Men pursued the Skull.
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A single Cosmic Cube has "affected" and nearly destroyed the Omniverse before,
even Roma was involved:

So it's no surprise the Cosmic Cube was able to Re-Write the Omniverse in the X-O crossover.
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http://www.marvunapp.com/master/chaochaz.htm

CHAOS ENGINE -

"Cosmic Cube created by Dr. Doom, used in effort to Re-Write Reality,
actually merged Earth-616 and Earth-892 to form
Earth-Chaos Engine: Dr. Doom by Dr. Doom,

then used to further merge/Re-structure that Reality by Magneto
to form Earth-Chaos Engine: Magneto,

and then again by the Red Skull to form Earth-Chaos Engine: Red Skull;

these alterations affected the entire Omniverse and threatened all Reality."

(Reference)

X-Men / Dr. Doom: Chaos Engine: Book One)

(X-Men / Magneto: Chaos Engine: Book Two)

(X-Men / Red Skull: Chaos Engine: Book Three)
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Marvel.com itself accepts this as 100% Canon:

Here

http://www.marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Bibliography-AZ9

(under Saturnyne)

"escaped & captured Sat-Yr9

(X-Men/Magneto: The Chaos Engine Trilogy Book 2
& X-Men/Red Skull: The Chaos Engine Trilogy Book 3, 2002)"

And Again Here: (Marvel.com)

http://www.marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Bibliography-AZ3

(Under Cosmic Cube)

"Cube merged dimensions (X-Men: The Chaos Engine Trilogy, 2000-2002)"
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I'll keep trying to get my hands on these issues,
they must be spectacular. 🙂

Just thought I'd point out something I noticed recently. It turns out that this feat....

(Surfer rides the “Cosmic Swell”, which is some kind of rift in the fabric of time and space)
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3846/silversurfer199611205yh6.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7621/silversurfer199611206ri8.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/757/silversurfer199611207tv9.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2481/silversurfer199611208zu9.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1231/silversurfer199611209up9.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3843/silversurfer199611210ll1.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5879/silversurfer199611211dz2.jpg

...is actually even more impressive than I'd originally thought. You see while there are Watchers in EVERY universe in the 616 multiverse there was only a single Watcher in the universe the Surfer ended up in, and that Watcher was an advanced scout. That means that Surfer actually used the cosmic swell to escape the 616 Multiverse 😱 .

Three on panel actual illustrations depicting the Marvel Omniverse!
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"The Omniverse"
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"I offer the Omniverse"
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"An Infinity beyond Infinity"
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continues in the next post ....

Wanda, is one of a few beings
that has been able to collapse the Marvel Omniverse
and re-arranged it with a phrase:

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"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave
of unimaginable power,
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it"
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The Temporal Reality Wave that brought back Jaspers is the Chaos Wave:

Nightcrawler tells Cyclops,

"Rachel mentioned something from her dream
about a powerful 'Chaos Wave'
Scott, what's going on Just what are we dealing with here? ... "

Scott responds,

"Good Lord, Wanda, what else have YOU done to us?"
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Also known as the "Scarlet Witch's Reality Warp"


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Wanda, is one of a few beings
that has been able to collapse the Marvel Omniverse,
and Re-arranged it with a phrase:

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