Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

Originally posted by Mr Master
None of this is consequential,

the term "Universe" can be eaily interpreted as "Multi-verse: in Marvel, I've proven this already.

Here's a quick example:

"and where ONE ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS Universe, a MULTI-ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS MULTI-VERSE"

The embodiment of the MULTI-VERSE is introduced as "Multi-Eternity"...

Now in this same ARC, the MULTI-VERSE is referred to as just "Eternity" (which usually stands for a Single Universe)

Multi-Eternity called Eternity by Reed

"What was revealed to me through the Cosmic Entity known as ETERNITY"

So, you have decided that, when the terms multiverse or omniverse or universe are used, in the way that you agree with, it is correct.

And, when the terms multiverse or omniverse or universe are used in a way that you disagree with, they are wrong.

Well, that is all I needed to know.
You have shown the entire forum, that you won't even adhere to the words of Jim Starlin, whose name you have been throwing around for a week, in an effort to support your views.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Not in comic's though, just the people in the real world referes to Marvel continuity.
Why would the other two terms (Multi-/Omniverse) be used in comics then?

You are 100% correct.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why does Horrificus keep spamming/arguing in [b]this thread?

He couldn't keep it in the Omniverse thread or what? [/B]

I can argue whatever I want.
If you want to see spam, you should take a look at what your hero did to my thread.
So, kiss off.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually that's just her power,

she can give but can't receive.

Actually it's a deadly power, by no means think she is being selfless.

That guard wasn't happy with the result of reaching Omniversal Awareness in an instant, in fact, his brain was fried.

so it isn't a gift? it is a punishment of a sort? why does it work like that? is it because most beings mind cant control it ?

MM

To say that Mark Greunwald was NOT ADHERED TO, is just insane! I don't care what your opinion is. You are going against interview after interview. He developed the entire model and rule structure for the Omniverse, Time Travel, Alternate Timelines, etc. And, it has been used for decades. Regardless of YOUR OPINION.

He was in charge of continuity. DC and Marvel based their reality structure on his model. That is just the way it is.

There are no characters in Marvel Comisc that are working in an area above Multiversal. LT, Roma and Merlyn work with the Universes within 1 Multiverse.

I have proven that Roma and Merlyn are effecting SINGLE UNIVERSES.
She is concerned with ONE SINGLE MULTIVERSE. NOT MULTIVERSES.
AND the chess boards represent individual Universes within. The pieces represent the important players in the drama for each universe.

You would have to prove that she means Multiverses, or says Multiverses, or says each board is a multiverse, in which case, whe would have been concerned with the fate of the Omniverse.
The Marvel Multiverse is NEVER referred to as the Multiverse Universe.
When Jim Starlin says Universe, he means Universe. The responsibility is on you to prove otherwise. And, since I am using his exact words, you must do the same.

You can't change and delete words, comments and panels just to fit your opinion. And, why would you want to?
I have explained that the word "Omniversal" has been, and can be used in 2 ways:
1. Pertaining to All Universes within the Marvel Multiverse.
2. Pertaining to THE Omniverse. The Structure, of which the Marvel Multiverse is a part.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why was Cap. Mar-Vell granted Omniversal awarness, but his predassor (Quasar) wasn't granted such a gift?

I have to get you those scans, I forgot about that.

I really haven't read it thoroughly, I only know he has obtained Omniversal Awareness.

It was the dude1948 that actually brought it to my attention in a debate we were having, I was surprised myself when he posted the scans, but they were canon.

I'll get them up and running as soon as I find them.

Originally posted by invisiblewoman
so it isn't a gift? it is a punishment of a sort? why does it work like that? is it because most beings mind cant control it ?

Nah,

it's just her power,

if she touches you, your Consciousness balloons across the Omni-verse instantaneously, this of course leads to a fried brain because no one can adjust to such awareness so quickly, well almost no one.

For instance there's this character called Jamie Braddock, his power is on an unimaginable scale, had I'd known about his On Panel feats earlier I would have included him HIGH on my Hierarchy when I made it for this thread,

check this out:

Jamie Braddock has absolute control of Quantum Strings, the building material of EVERYTHING.

In this battle he confronts the LAYABOUTS, (which Scatterbrain is a part of of) they all more or less in some form or another operate on an Omniversal level.

Look at what happens when he turns Scatterbrain's power against her, she gets fried, luckily she was healed after this and survived.

See that funny looking pudgy baby, that's Joyboy, his power is, he can make you one with the Omni-verse, not just Awareness, actually ONE with.

Needless to say, they all get smacked up by this lunatic powerhouse

thats crazy . . . they all have these powers but cant use them to their own benefit ! i have never heard of any of them yet they have strong on panel feats . . . what comic series are they from?

MM, I have to disagree with ONE, and only one, of your claims.

This claim has to do with the structure of the Omniverse.

You say that the Omniverse is made of an infinitly large number of infinitly large multiverses, each of which has an infinite number of universes, which are also infinitly large.

Yeah, right.

Since we've seen a Multiverse from the outside, and it is clearly finite, this simply cannot be true.

distance between my two outstretched fingers can be infinite . . . just ask zeno. 😉

Originally posted by King Kandy
MM, I have to disagree with ONE, and only one, of your claims.

This claim has to do with the structure of the Omniverse.

You say that the Omniverse is made of an infinitly large number of infinitly large multiverses, each of which has an infinite number of universes, which are also infinitly large.

Yeah, right.

Since we've seen a Multiverse from the outside, and it is clearly finite, this simply cannot be true.

Believe me what your saying makes sense,

because indeed we see a seemingly Finite looking Multi-verse since the Multi-verses were represented by the Blue Balls, and there were countless Blue Balls, so how can the Blue Balls have an extremity if they are Infinite Multi-verses?

Well, since the Marvel Multi-verse is Infinite without a doubt, and every Universe in every Multi-verse is Infinite without a doubt,

Proof:

Multi-Eternity

"and where ONE ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS Universe, a MULTI-ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS MULTI-VERSE"

No arguing the On Panel evidence,

my summation is (since it's a Ball with an outer area, clearly not a Ball that emcompasses everything) that though the Blue Balls look Finite, they are Infinite with in.

This, though it defies logic, has been done before in other Marvel scenerios,

example:

The Mkraan Crystal is no bigger than a large Building from the Outside:

But the Inside is so VAST that it confuses the X-Men

Another example:

At the CENTER POINT of CREATION is the Starlight Citadel of Brian's (Omniversal Guardian) Ultimate Boss (Roma)

Doesn't look that big does it...

But when you enter it,

Just the HALL in the Starlight Citadel can FIT ENTIRE PLANETS

"BUT when Her CITADEL FALLS, that impossibly vast Space is suddenly crowded"

And if that wasn't insane enough,

It has countless Dimensions inside of it, now the Starlight Citadel is NOT a gateway or portal to another place, these Dimensions are actually INSIDE her Palace.

"With an inconceivable variety & number of species, as ALL the DIMENSIONS there are suddenly crash into one"

That was the Chaos Wave that hit it.

Hope that was satisfactory K

Originally posted by King Kandy
MM, I have to disagree with ONE, and only one, of your claims.

This claim has to do with the structure of the Omniverse.

You say that the Omniverse is made of an infinitly large number of infinitly large multiverses, each of which has an infinite number of universes, which are also infinitly large.

Yeah, right.

Since we've seen a Multiverse from the outside, and it is clearly finite, this simply cannot be true.

So, now you agree that the writers and the continuity editor for Marvel Comics were either lying or wrong with the statements I posted?

And, that MM's opinions are more solid than those statements?

Holy Crap. This forum is a joke. I joined because I thought there would be some intelligent, fact-based discussion.

I have found a bunch of kids kissing the ass of an arrogant clown with a loose grasp of metaphysics and astrophysics. Loose, at best.

Just IGNORE him yall, that's the best we can do.

KK, don't give him the satisfaction of replying.

Yes, we are all KIDS here because we only adhere to evidence that's DRAWN in COMIC BOOKS and NOT rubbish found in sites on the net.

The Infinity Being was the previous Universe!

Infinity Being created Mephisto and Every demon

Infinity Being was the Big Bang of Creation

Yes, Infinity Being was the Big Bang of the previous Universe

And Mephisto seems to agree

This the On Panel history of the Previous Universe, I think it's been warped by nauseating bios/handbooks, but who really cares about what they say.

Yall know the routine, say it with me yall,,,

"IF it didn't happen On Panel, then, it didn't happen at all" band

Originally posted by Mr Master
Believe me what your saying makes sense,

because indeed we see a seemingly Finite looking Multi-verse since the Multi-verses were represented by the Blue Balls, and there were countless Blue Balls, so how can the Blue Balls have an extremity if they are Infinite Multi-verses?

Well, since the Marvel Multi-verse is Infinite without a doubt, and every Universe in every Multi-verse is Infinite without a doubt,

Proof:

Multi-Eternity

"and where ONE ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS Universe, a MULTI-ETERNITY would ensure a BOUNDLESS MULTI-VERSE"

No arguing the On Panel evidence,

my summation is (since it's a Ball with an outer area, clearly not a Ball that emcompasses everything) that though the Blue Balls look Finite, they are Infinite with in.

This, though it defies logic, has been done before in other Marvel scenerios,

example:

The Mkraan Crystal is no bigger than a large Building from the Outside:

But the Inside is so VAST that it confuses the X-Men

Another example:

At the CENTER POINT of CREATION is the Starlight Citadel of Brian's (Omniversal Guardian) Ultimate Boss (Roma)

Doesn't look that big does it...

But when you enter it,

Just the HALL in the Starlight Citadel can FIT ENTIRE PLANETS

"BUT when Her CITADEL FALLS, that impossibly vast Space is suddenly crowded"

And if that wasn't insane enough,

It has countless Dimensions inside of it, now the Starlight Citadel is NOT a gateway or portal to another place, these Dimensions are actually INSIDE her Palace.

"With an inconceivable variety & number of species, as ALL the DIMENSIONS there are suddenly crash into one"

That was the Chaos Wave that hit it.

Hope that was satisfactory K

The Blue Balls are Universes. I have proven it already. I have already shown that Thanos only replaced Eternity. Thanos absorbed the M Body of LT, (of which there is ONE for each Universe) and Death.
ONE UNIVERSE. 616.

Then, I showed that the writer even said as much.

If Thanos had power over entire Multiverses, it would make him the God of the Omniverse, which never happened.
Once he hd control over the 616 universe, he became a Multiversal threat. a threat to other Universes within the Multiverse.

Marvel has decreed that the edge of the Universe is called the Crunch.
See Annihilation. But, that can be debated also.

The term you were looking for, MM, but know nothing about, is called a "Tesseract". It is an object that can actually be larger on the inside, than on the outside.

From Beyond the limited series

Post Ret-con Beyonder does a second Secret Wars, Henry Pym goes rogue and offs everyone for the prize

Originally posted by Mr Master
Just IGNORE him yall, that's the best we can do.
KK, don't give him the satisfaction of replying.
Yes, we are all KIDS here because we only adhere to evidence that's DRAWN in COMIC BOOKS and NOT rubbish found in sites on the net.

The "Rubbish" I found on the sites, were the EXACT words of the writers, you retard!

I never said that everything on the sies was good info. But, when a writer comments about his own work, I generally think that is pretty solid.

I also showed that your opinions are wrong.

You slandered everything I said, and played the politician, because you are unable to argue fact for fact.

I will continue to find evidence to support what I say, while you will continue to show the same scans, give your same opinions, and continue to play up to the forum members.

Personally, I don't care what they think. I just care about facts.

Don't worry, I am sure your little "following" will ignore anything you say.
You shot down my thread, because you didn't agree with it, and you got your feelings hurt because you were not considered an authority there.
And, now you feel as if you are safe and sound, in your little nest of scans, in your thread.
Wrong. The truth is the truth.
To the rest of you, do some searches. You will see that MM is in the minority with his silly opinions. For good reason.
Are we ALL wrong?

Just IGNORE him yall, do not acknowledge him, I already reported him for spamming this thread with gibberish,

do the same and we can get him booted as a member, obviously he has no aim except to troll this thread with garbage.

I will tell one of the Mods to do me the favor of editting all that waste of space he's producing.

wow that horrificus person is a troll that would give bastion and david richards a run for their money like i never seen whats wrong with him has he not been reported for this he just keeps posting crap from the internet i have not seen him once post something from comics and he thinks hes right about anything 😂
horrificus get a life mm burned you bigtime in that other thread and now you have a itch in yur ass cause you feel real stupid you should read comics like he told you and stop relying on the internet to debate a point

Originally posted by Mr Master
Just IGNORE him yall, do not acknowledge him, I already reported him for spamming this thread with gibberish,

do the same and we can get him booted as a member, obviously he has no aim except to troll this thread with garbage.

I will tell one of the Mods to do me the favor of editting all that waste of space he's producing.

I haven't done anything but disagree with you.
If that gets me banned, I will gladly leave the forum.

You can't take somebody thinking you are wrong.

Show me any evidence of Trolling or Spamming on my side.

Show me where my posts are Gibberish.

Then, go take a look at what you did in my thread, and every reply you have made to anything I have posted.