Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

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Originally posted by Utrigita
Most of the time Mr Master is right and this time is one of them 🙂, disagreeing is a different story 😄

Mr. M and GS are very wise with comics 🙂. My young friend have a good one 🙂

Originally posted by guy222
Mr. M and GS are very wise with comics 🙂. My young friend have a good one 🙂

They are both genius debators who are forever struggeling for dominance...

Originally posted by King Kandy
Mr. M... You know that scan where the Gaurdians of the Galaxy Phoenix (Forgot his name) heals Eternity?

Giraud,

he never healed Eternity, he Cauterized his Wound.

Like when a person got shot in the old days, had the bullet taken out and to prevent further infection Burned the Wound (Cauterize)

I'm sure you've seen it in many movies.

Anyhow,

here's the On Panel proof.

"by passing through the 'Scar of Eternity' .. the STILL-HEALING Tear in the Space/Time Continuum CAUTERIZED by the Phoenix"

CAUTERIZED: burn the skin or flesh of (a wound) with a heated instrument, to stop bleeding or prevent the wound from becoming infected.

"How HEALS your INJURY?"

"Your concern does me honor Tribunal, the WOUND is closing slowly"

Here is the actual SCAR in the actual Universe (Eternity)

"the One Who Knows (Stakar and Aleta) Enters the SCAR of Eternity"

"Behold the Raw Tissue Fiber of Existence, Eternity slowly HEALS from the Wound, which were CAUTERIZED by Giraud, carrier of the Phoenix power"

Evidently, Eternity HEALS himself!

"Incredible, REALITY literally REGENERATING ITSELF, Pure Creation"

"the Journey through the Scar is at an end, let's see what lies Beyond Eternity"

Originally posted by King Kandy
Who's the floating head guy in that?

Mainframe,

an uber Computer.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Most of the time Mr Master is right and this time is one of them 🙂

😄

Originally posted by Mr Master
😄

Mr. M, what issues are those w/Giruad

Originally posted by guy222
Mr. M, what issues are those w/Giruad

Guardians of the Galaxy #35

Here's a Celestial picking up a Ship the size of Manhattan like a toy.

Thought you might like that.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Guardians of the Galaxy #35

Here's a Celestial picking up a Ship the size of Manhattan like a toy.

Thought you might like that.

For sure. Reading the issue now. U have a good evening. I be here a bit. 🙂

Originally posted by guy222
For sure. Reading the issue now. U have a good evening. I be here a bit. 🙂

The Celestial scan is from FF v3 #25

Taimut

Apparently the Dreaming Celestial was the most powerful individual of the Race,

but Taimut was not more powerful than all the Celestials together:

Here Taimut gets Owned by 12 Celestials:

I had the feeling he was the most powerful, but I'm not quite as well versed in Eternals as I would like. I did collect the new series however. 🙂

Originally posted by Juntai
I had the feeling he was the most powerful, but I'm not quite as well versed in Eternals as I would like. I did collect the new series however. 🙂

He looks majestic now. He's waiting.

How could Tiamut be the strongest Celestial? Scathan is LT level.

Originally posted by King Kandy
How could Tiamut be the strongest Celestial? Scathan is LT level.

K,

if you're going to take into consideration the PIS involved in gotg #50 as a feat,

then Scathan is not LT level.

Scathan is above LT.

Which is rediculous, the Writer of that arc should be shot on sight.

2guns

Scathan could be TOAA in disguise

It said he represented the True Beyonders. Of so, why would the guise be a Celestial? The Celestials have nothing to do with The Beyonders 😕

Just a question, when did it say he represented the True Beyonders?

The BIGGEST PIS in Cosmological history.

"My short answer to this issue is that it is an illogical, poorly written nonsense that one should ignore, It contradicts far too much of what is known and accepted about the characters to be taken seriously.

But since this defense is open to the retort that perhaps everything else is wrong and these issues are right, let us instead look at the claims and implications of what is said. Let us examine what one would have to accept if one took everything in these two issues on face value.

First of all, Protege claims not just to be the new Living Tribunal, but the New One Above All (GOTG 49, last page); that is, Protege is God.

If he were indeed now God,

what are we to make of Celestial's restraining him by throwing an energy blanket over his head?

Can a Celestial muzzle God? hm

And how does the energy blanket restrain this New OAA?

By allowing him "to see nothing of what transpires."

Yes, that's right, the New Supreme being of the Multiverse is taken down by

not being able to see the ends of his feet. 😂

But wait, we don't have to commit to such nonsense, because we are told that the LT was clandestinely drawing on the Amulet of Aggamotto

(not the Eye, not the Orb, but the Amulet)

in order to restrain Protege.

In conclusion, therefore: Protege becomes TOAA, but is restrained by a Celestial energy hood that cuts off his sight and an amulet enhanced Living Tribunal. boxed

Perhaps Protege believes he is omnipotent, but because he cannot even sense what is happening after having a hood thrown over his head, clearly his Cosmic Awareness is still Paltry if not Non-existent.

Clearly he has Not absorbed the powers of the LT, perhaps he has absorbed an iota of an iota.

Therefore, in conclusion, we are not seeing a Celestial restraining someone who is more powerful than the LT, let alone TOAA"

🙂

Let me just try another whack at the tier list:

Tier 0:

TOAA

Tier 1:

Pre - Retcon Beyonder
True Beyonders

Tier 2:

Pre - Retcon Molecule Man
HOTU

Tier 3:

Living Tribunal

Tier 4:

Multi - Eternity
Infinity Being
Multi - Death
Multi - Infinity
Multi - Oblivion

Tier 5:

Infinity Gauntlet
Mad Jim Jaspers merged with Fury

Tier 6:

Abraxas
Ultimate Nullifier
Infinites

Tier 7:

Full - powered Zom

Tier 8:

Eternity
Infinity
Death
Oblivion
Full - powered Galactus
Hawk God

Tier 9:

Lord Chaos
Master Order
Kronos
Mistress Love
Sire Hate

Tier 10:

Celestials
Average Galactus
The Vishanti

Tier 11:

Mephisto
Dormammu
Satannish
Shuma-Gorath
Rune King Thor
Cytorrak
In - Betweener

Tier 12:

Odin
Other Skyfathers

Tier 13:

Thanos
Annihilus with Quantum Bands
Morg w/WOL
Keeper Surfer

Tier 14:

Herald level

Originally posted by Mr Master
The BIGGEST PIS in Cosmological history.

"My short answer to this issue is that it is an illogical, poorly written nonsense that one should ignore, It contradicts far too much of what is known and accepted about the characters to be taken seriously.

But since this defense is open to the retort that perhaps everything else is wrong and these issues are right, let us instead look at the claims and implications of what is said. Let us examine what one would have to accept if one took everything in these two issues on face value.

First of all, Protege claims not just to be the new Living Tribunal, but the New One Above All (GOTG 49, last page); that is, Protege is God.

If he were indeed now God,

what are we to make of Celestial's restraining him by throwing an energy blanket over his head?

Can a Celestial muzzle God? hm

And how does the energy blanket restrain this New OAA?

By allowing him "to see nothing of what transpires."

Yes, that's right, the New Supreme being of the Multiverse is taken down by

not being able to see the ends of his feet. 😂

But wait, we don't have to commit to such nonsense, because we are told that the LT was clandestinely drawing on the Amulet of Aggamotto

(not the Eye, not the Orb, but the Amulet)

in order to restrain Protege.

In conclusion, therefore: Protege becomes TOAA, but is restrained by a Celestial energy hood that cuts off his sight and an amulet enhanced Living Tribunal. boxed

Perhaps Protege believes he is omnipotent, but because he cannot even sense what is happening after having a hood thrown over his head, clearly his Cosmic Awareness is still Paltry if not Non-existent.

Clearly he has Not absorbed the powers of the LT, perhaps he has absorbed an iota of an iota.

Therefore, in conclusion, we are not seeing a Celestial restraining someone who is more powerful than the LT, let alone TOAA"

🙂

Mr. M, what's your theory on the Absolutes

Originally posted by guy222
Mr. M, what's your theory on the Absolutes

Like Ubiquitor,

it's all shady.

These Absolutes only appeared in a visualization as Ubiquitor was recounting her "History" ...

According to Ubiquitor they existed before the Universe,

and they created and destroyed Universes.

Is this true?

I don't know.

Ubiquitor was apparently incomplete in this era because she got Owned by Phoenix 9 (Giraud) who had Thor's Hammer.