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i know malestrom became anamoly and usurped his spot. that was mentioned when malestrom killed him in the scans. but if malestrom killed him -- truly killed anamoly in his totality as you are saying he must have when he killed the m-body -- than the abstract concept of anomoly would have died and there would have been no position to usurp.

he killed the m-body. the abstract copncept remained (unaffected by the death of the m-body as stated in your website bio) and was usurped until malestrom was killed and another anamoly m-body was fashioned to battle quasar amid all the other m-bodies.

and ^^ you have no way of knowing that ONLY physical beings manifest in multiple places at once. i've already showed examples from that arc of abstracts existing at the same time -- eternity, infinity, death -- all existing at once in the dimension of m. you just say they are . . . reflections or something, or images from another time. yet they are all in existence simultaneously. do these past m-bodies NOT have totality? proof? the death m-bodies almost attack quasar en masse, so yeah, i'd say they existed simultaneously.

meh, we'll never agree on this.

No Mbody unless explicitly stated and depicted can be the totality of a concept it represents, without said concept being absent everywhere else in reality.

The totality of the universe, cannot appear within the totality of the universe.

The Eternity Mbody is the representation of the sentience of reality. It is the direct voice of this sentience. With that in mind this representation saying it is everything doesnt mean the Mbody is everything, but instead that is what the concept it represents is saying itself.

The Quasar issue states plain as day that the abstracts can be represented in varying degrees of accuracy, all dependent on an abstracts needs. If an Mbody was the totality of an abstract at all times as some would claim, there would not be a need for multiple Mbodys.

He'll never concede on that point, no matter how well you out debate him on the issue, because this issue in particular is fundamental to his hierarchy, if he concedes on it, the hierarchy comes tumbling down.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
No Mbody unless explicitly stated and depicted can be the totality of a concept it represents, without said concept being absent everywhere else in reality.

The totality of the universe, cannot appear within the totality of the universe.

The Eternity Mbody is the representation of the sentience of reality. It is the direct voice of this sentience. With that in mind this representation saying it is everything doesnt mean the Mbody is everything, but instead that is what the concept it represents is saying itself.

The Quasar issue states plain as day that the abstracts can be represented in varying degrees of accuracy, all dependent on an abstracts needs. If an Mbody was the totality of an abstract at all times as some would claim, there would not be a need for multiple Mbodys.

He'll never concede on that point, no matter how well you out debate him on the issue, because this issue in particular is fundamental to his hierarchy, if he concedes on it, the hierarchy comes tumbling down.

😬

Originally posted by leonidas
i know malestrom became anamoly and usurped his spot. that was mentioned when malestrom killed him in the scans. but if malestrom killed him -- truly killed anamoly in his totality as you are saying he must have when he killed the m-body -- than the abstract concept of anomoly would have died and there would have been no position to usurp.

Maelstrom killed the Sentience of the Concept Anomaly by killing the M-body, which was the totality of the Sentience and it's Power.

Maelstrom usurped the position as the New Sentience,

at the same time adding it's power to his by killing the M-body.

Now,

Maelstrom Replaced the Totality of the Concept of Anomaly by killing it's M-body,

how is this M-body not the Abstract's Totality? 😕

Originally posted by leonidas
he killed the m-body. the abstract copncept remained (unaffected by the death of the m-body as stated in your website bio) and was usurped until malestrom was killed

The Concept was not affected in it's existence,

but the Full Power of the Anomaly was in that M-body Maelstrom killed.

Here's Oblivion acknowledges Maelstrom as the Anomaly,

Here's Maelstrom referencing some of his abilities due to his Power as the Anomaly

My contention was always the M-body is the Totality of the Abstracts Sentience and Power.

Originally posted by leonidas
and another anamoly m-body was fashioned to battle quasar amid all the other m-bodies.

"amid all the other m-bodies?"

There's only One Anomaly that pops out at Quasar.

If your talking about the Warlock Trial:

(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006)

"Events which occur within the Dimension of Manifestations remain Represented there,

as the Realm exists Outside of normal time, this enables visitors to witness Past Events"

On Panel Verification

There are ONLY TWO Manifestations of Eternity during the ENTIRE issue of Quasar #37,

This One:

When Warlock was on Trial, which took place in FEBRUARY 92' (Warlock & the Infinity Watch #1)

And this one:

Of the Comatose Eternity, which took place in June 92' (Infinity War #1)

HOW is this taking place at the same time, when these events are separated by 5 MONTHS and have NO relations whatsoever?

In FACT, the only correspondence of these TWO events with THIS issue of Quasar #37,

is the Comatose Eternity coincidentally.

(#37 being a Cross-Over of the Infinity War Arc)

And I might add,

Warlock gave up the Infinity Gems WAY BEFORE Eternity was Comatose by Magus.

Quasar interrupted a TRIAL, that had already taken place

Originally posted by leonidas
and ^^ you have no way of knowing that ONLY physical beings manifest in multiple places at once.

Yes I can, right here:

Anthropomorpho specifically distinguishes the Two:

"We have a Symbiotic Relationship with the Abstract Beings, an exchange

of Energies you Physicals would not comprehend"

Then Quasar says,,

"What about Galactus and some of these OTHER (Not Abstracts) guys,

they DO have Bodies of their own"

Anthropomorpho replies,

"Certain PHYSICAL Entities ALSO enlist our services so they may be able to

put in an Appearance somewhere Without actually Attending"

Originally posted by leonidas
i've already showed examples from that arc of abstracts existing at the same time -- eternity, infinity, death -- all existing at once in the dimension of m. you just say they are . . . reflections or something, or images from another time. yet they are all in existence simultaneously.

Simultaneously within the SAME Place friend,

(that would be the Dimension of Manifestation)

Show me one instance where an Abstract has made "Multiple simultaneous" appearances Outside the Dimension of Manifestation.

Originally posted by leonidas
the death m-bodies almost attack quasar en masse, so yeah, i'd say they existed simultaneously.

There's nothing to suggest Quasar was "almost attacked" by these visualizations

Who is Anthropomorpho to have a bunch of Real Deaths trapped in some room?

Exactly .... nobody.

All those Death M-bodys are easily explained by Anthropomorpho himself:

"Our Dimension contains Reflections of Every Manifestation we have ever done"

Quasar even asks,

"Could you Point us to a RECENT One"

As the older ones would be meaningless Past Reflections.

Originally posted by leonidas
do these past m-bodies NOT have totality? proof?

How can they when they're just Reflections according to Anthropomorpho.

Originally posted by leonidas
meh, we'll never agree on this.

🙁

Originally posted by Mr Master
The Concept was not affected in it's existence,

but the Full Power of the Anomaly was in that M-body Maelstrom killed.

Here's Oblivion acknowledges Maelstrom as the Anomaly,

Here's Maelstrom referencing some of his abilities due to his Power as the Anomaly

My contention was always the M-body is the Totality of the Abstracts Sentience and Power.

i understand your contention. but there is no 'degree' of totality. if the m-body is the concept as you say, the concept should have been killed by malestrom, ie., there should have been no more 'anomoly concept' for malestrom to take over. there was. clear evidence supports this in that malestrom usurped that role for a short time (as thanos usurped eternity's role with the IG -- both subverted the sentience of the abstract forms they usurped, is the way i will always understand it) until malestrom was killed as well. even after HIS death the concept remained and later manifested a new m-body -- the one quasar battled. neither malestrom or the anomaly m-body meant anything to the concept which survived both their deaths because the concept is not fully conceptualized in the m-body. if it were, it would have died twice -- when malestrom killed it and when malestrom died.

gs brought up eternity's reference when warlock blasted him. eternity itself says it is only a representation. even after usurping eternity's role, eternity's m-body remained behind. i don't see how it could have done so if the m-body WAS the universe, how could it exist IN the universe and more importantly how could thanos AND the eternity m-body -- BOTH of whom you say were the totality of the universe -- exist at the same time?? it makes no sense. it is easily explained away by m-bodies that are NOT the totality of any concept.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Anthropomorpho replies,

"Certain PHYSICAL Entities ALSO enlist our services so they may be able to

put in an Appearance somewhere Without actually Attending"

exactly. they ALSO use m-bodies so THEY don't "really have to attend". in exactly the same way an abstract uses an m-body without "actually having to attend." BOTH use m-bodies for the EXACT same reason. 🙂

Show me one instance where an Abstract has made "Multiple simultaneous" appearances Outside the Dimension of Manifestation. [/B]

why does an abstract NEED multiple m-bodies at all if one m-body is everything?

Originally posted by Mr Master

How can they when they're just Reflections according to Anthropomorpho.

and yet LT noticed quasar at the trial. clearly they are MORE than just reflections -- they were still acting independently, it wasn't just a 'recording of a past event', or a static reflection. the m-bodies there reacted and were angered by quasar's appearance. are you saying that LT, the one at the trial who was angered by quasar's interruption, was somehow less than a more 'current' version of LT would be? or that the eternity m-body that quasar asked to lead him to its spiritual essence was less powerful than a more 'current' eternity?

certainly not the impression that quasar gave. 😬

This thread is silly.

- FO!!

Originally posted by Flame On!!
This thread is silly.

- FO!!

depends on your definition. 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
depends on your definition. 😄

silly

1)Exhibiting a lack of wisdom or good sense; foolish. See synonyms at foolish.
2)Lacking seriousness or responsibleness; frivolous: indulged in silly word play; silly pet names for each other.
3)Semiconscious; dazed: knocked silly by the impact.

I mean 1 but it's obviously 2 on this forum anyway.

- FO!!

Originally posted by Flame On!!
silly

1)Exhibiting a lack of wisdom or good sense; foolish. See synonyms at foolish.
2)Lacking seriousness or responsibleness; frivolous: indulged in silly word play; silly pet names for each other.
3)Semiconscious; dazed: knocked silly by the impact.

I mean 1 but it's obviously 2 on this forum anyway.

- FO!!

-By Crom!

Originally posted by Mr Master
Finally,

in order to stop himself from absorbing the rest of the UNIVERSE and EVERYTHING BEYOND

Galactus ERASES that UNIVERSE from existence

"And without a sound, the UNIVERSE behind them softly and suddenly VANISHES AWAY"

Originally posted by Flame On!!
silly

1)Exhibiting a lack of wisdom or good sense; foolish. See synonyms at foolish.
2)Lacking seriousness or responsibleness; frivolous: indulged in silly word play; silly pet names for each other.
3)Semiconscious; dazed: knocked silly by the impact.

I mean 1 but it's obviously 2 on this forum anyway.

- FO!!

oh, well, maybe a little . . . 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
oh, well, maybe a little . . . 😄

😉

- FO!!

Straight up,

who ever doesn't like this thread or finds it any way offensive,

please,

don't post or even visit.

🙄

Originally posted by Galan007
Just need to point out that this feat was accomplished with the UN.

You didn't know that brother G,

I'm offended 😛

But seriously,

had Galactus been able to erase the Universe on a whim, he wouldn't have bothered absorbing it gradually.

But for the onlookers,

that's why I wrote included,

Originally posted by Mr Master
Finally,

in order to stop himself from absorbing the UNIVERSE and EVERYTHING BEYOND

Galactus ERASES that UNIVERSE from existence

"And without a sound, the UNIVERSE behind them softly and suddenly VANISHES AWAY"

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