Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

Originally posted by leonidas
so it's conceiveable a single cube could actually be more powerful than the IG. only reason i bring it up is because i was glancing through some old books, resorting and such, and came across the x-o/ironman xover. anyway, long story short, they used a single cube to recreate the MULTIVERSE. that included both x-o's universe and ironman's.

it was a ridiculous feat, one i'd completely forgotten about. the books are high prestige and difficult to scan so no pics, but i'm sure you can find it if you look. make for some good additions to the thread and show off just how powerful the cubes are.

Aw heck yea, this sounds sweet, great find leon. 😄

Tell me the exact Title and Issues this is in, I must read, I must see.

"x-o/ironman xover" (I don't understand)

Originally posted by King Kandy
Where does Hawkgod rank on the hierarchy?

He's definitely below Eternity,

and since I never see him in the Hierarchy of Cosmics,

I would say he's a lower Abstract level type imo.

Somewhere between Galactus and Mistress Love or Master Hate.

Originally posted by Mr Master
He's definitely below Eternity,

and since I never see him in the Hierarchy of Cosmics,

I would say he's a lower Abstract level type imo.

Somewhere between Galactus and Mistress Love or Master Hate.

Mr. M, where does Starhawk rank. He seems powerful

Originally posted by Mr Master
Aw heck yea, this sounds sweet, great find leon. 😄

Tell me the exact Title and Issues this is in, I must read, I must see.

"x-o/ironman xover" (I don't understand)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Aw heck yea, this sounds sweet, great find leon. 😄

Tell me the exact Title and Issues this is in, I must read, I must see.

"x-o/ironman xover" (I don't understand)

it's called ironman/x-o manowar: heavy metal. it's a 2 part crossover between acclaim and marvel. i think the crossover was based on a video game or something. still, kind of a cool crossover.

Originally posted by Mr Master
As we know the Cosmic Containment Units, are the raw form of the Cube,

and when they evolve an independent Sentience they become "Cosmic Cubes."

Originally posted by King Kandy
I thought "Cosmic Cubes" (As you say it) are called Cube Beings, And Cosmic Cubes were just what cCU's were called before it was discovered that they came in other shapes.

that was actually my understanding of the terminology as well . . .

Originally posted by King Kandy
I thought "Cosmic Cubes" (As you say it) are called Cube Beings, And Cosmic Cubes were just what cCU's were called before it was discovered that they came in other shapes.

From my understanding,

Kubik and Shaper have been referred to as Cosmic Cubes and Cube beings.

Cosmic Containment Units have been referred to as Cosmic Cubes.

I agree though that Cosmic Containment Units should be the proper term.

I never read anywhere that the term "Cosmic Containment Units" is used because of the discovery of other shaped Units,

though it does make sense, I would have to read that somewhere to make it official.

I think it was stated in either Infinity War or Infinity Crusade

Dormammu and Umar KILL Multi-Eternity,

Then Dormammu becomes the Multiverse!

Dormammu had mystically Bonded his Power with his Sister's Umar, and the only reason they were able to defeat Eternity is because of a SHIFT in the Cosmic Axis, which made the Impossible, Possible, (like Dormammu and Umar harming Eternity)

Basically PIS, but Canon nonetheless I painfully learned.

Dormammu and Umar pay the Embodiment of the Multiverse a visit.

In order to absorb Eternity's Position and Power,

Dormammu becomes one with Multi-Eternity's Essence:

(make sure yall READ this Scan)

Dormammu Re-Creates the Multiverse in his image:

Dormammu becomes Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent.

He becomes God (IG type God)

"Dormammu Created Everything around you"

Strange says,

"ALL we see ... is a reflection of Dormammu's Consciousness.

Every living creature, every field & flower,

every random thought, every passing breeze,

BELONGS to Him"

Umar says,

"All the Worlds .. ALL the Universes at our disposal"

continues in the next post ...

In the end,

Dormammu was defeated because Umar betrayed him,

she was secretly absorbing Eternity's power from Dormammu:

Umar the New Multi-Eternity, says to Dormammu,

"My first action as a Supreme Being will be to blast your mind, body and soul,

into a Hundred Billion microscopic pieces,

and scatter you across Ten Thousand Universes"

"Umar won .. she's a God now"

so you think dormammu met multi-eternity in the past? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by leonidas
so you think dormammu met multi-eternity in the past? 😖hifty:

So Umar is the New Eternity?

Originally posted by King Kandy
The one he met before... I'm almost 100% certain that was regular Eternity.

yes it was. 😉

So Umar is the New Eternity?

nah, they ultimately lost and eternity resumed his place.

but eternity in the defenders scan was most definitely not MULTI-eternity. it was the same eternity that dormmy challenged previously. which is of course why eternity remembers meeting him.

FAR simpler than saying that dormmy . . . defeated MULTI-eternity (who is of course NEVER mentioned in the series . . .) is to simply say giffen et al,. (creators of the series) just envisioned eternity (singular) as a multiverse unto himself. something dr strange himself agrees with and notes:

"a hand which holds whole UNIVERSES"

Originally posted by leonidas
yes it was. 😉

nah, they ultimately lost and eternity resumed his place.

but eternity in the defenders scan was most definitely not MULTI-eternity. it was the same eternity that dormmy challenged previously. which is of course why eternity remembers meeting him.

FAR simpler than saying that dormmy . . . defeated MULTI-eternity (who is of course NEVER mentioned in the series . . .) is to simply say giffen et al,. (creators of the series) just envisioned eternity (singular) as a multiverse unto himself. something dr strange himself agrees with and notes:

"a hand which holds whole [b]UNIVERSES" [/B]

Mr. M, how high is Death on your Cosmic Hierarchy

Originally posted by leonidas
so you think dormammu met multi-eternity in the past?

I understand that, and we had a long debate in another thread,

I'm not going to debate it here. 🙂

Originally posted by King Kandy
The one he met before... I'm almost 100% certain that was regular Eternity.

So Umar is the New Eternity?

Even though the Multiverse is mentioned up and down this arc,

I should take your word instead? no2

I love ya K, but that ain't happening.

Originally posted by leonidas
yes it was.nah, they ultimately lost and eternity resumed his place.
but eternity in the defenders scan was most definitely not MULTI-eternity. it wasthe same eternity that dormmy challenged previously. which is of course why eternity remembers meeting him.FAR simpler than saying that dormmy . . . defeated MULTI-eternity (who is of course NEVER mentioned in the series . . .) is to simply say giffen et al,. (creators of the series) just envisioned eternity (singular) as a multiverse unto himself. something dr strange himself agrees with and notes:

Multi-Eternity has NEVER been mentioned in any appearance save the one in FF.

My Thanos argument had a missing component,

the term "Multiverse" was not mentioned.

Here we got not only the term "Multiverse" mentioned many times,

but we also have the phrase "Whole UniverseS" mentioned several times aswell.

In any case this is what it comes down to ... (the rest of the scans are overkill)

"Worlds within Worlds ... Dimensions folding into themselves ...

Entire Universes being born ... and collapsing into ruin ...

and yet All This is but the merest Fraction of what Eternity is ...

what I will become ... when I reach the Core of Eternity's Being ...

Here ALL Energy ... ALL Matter ... lies sleeping in it's unmanifest state ...

I will descend into the oceanic void ... filtering the surge through my consciousness,

Re-Birthing every being and thing in ALL the UNIVERSES"

"In my Image"

Originally posted by leonidas
nah, they ultimately lost and eternity resumed his place.

Actually Umar won, and Umar retained the Multiverse's power.

"Umar won .. she's a God now"

By the way, was that Defenders mini any good? Might pick it up.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The TVA are no joke.

When Timelines are manipulated

the Time Variance Authority gets involved:

Here galactus uses the UN to erase Korvac:

Apparently the TVA can erase and repair Timelines:

When Korvac killed himself before the UN beam hit him,

the TVA saw it as less work for them:

The beam went on though to erase Korvac's lady, who had a portion of his power:

Reed, with a Time machine, chases after the UN beam through Timelines:

In order to reflect it, at an earlier point in it's path:

Reed with his ridiculous feats ... respect Reed.

In the end, the TVA confiscated Reed's little Time Machine:

I have other appearances, I'll post more tomorrow.

Good looking out.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
By the way, was that Defenders mini any good? Might pick it up.

It was actually kind of silly, the writing was borderline insulting to the characters.

The theme went from the sublime to the rediculous in no time.

Silver Surfer hanging out with some vagabonds and villagers instead of trying to save Reality with the rest.

😂

The art is at times quite stunning, but the book as a whole is fair, and I'm being generous.

While the theme was clowny, the dialogue was interesting.