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Captain Marvel (Genis) & Cosmic Awareness:

This is how Genis became Insane:

Attuned to all existence:

"I see ALL Creation"

Genis can PLEASE a Woman better than any being who lacks Cosmic Consciousness:

😂

Genis and Rick Jones have an interesting relationship:

The Microverse is an entirely separate Universe Outside the 616 Reality:

Rick Jones compares Genis to "God"

The Multiversal Big Bang (Entropy) asks Genis for help,

in Killing the Totality of Eternity (the Multiverse)

"Entropy at Your Service"

"I could ... use Your Help"

One shots Heimdall:

"I have enough power in my little finger to obliterate you"

Cosmic Awareness on an Omniversal scale :

Originally posted by Mr Master
I already stated that:]

Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]Nice but ... dontgetit

Are you posting this as a feat, or a response to something I posted?

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
No, for a moment, I thought he only ran from Atum (not transformed).
It was indeed Demo. Still though, Atum (not transformed), could most likely defeat all of the Elder Gods.

There's no evidence to suggest Atum can defeat the Elder gods.

Demogorge is another story, but again,

Chthon has increased in power in the last couple 100 Billion Years.

His Pocket Realm is now a Universe, where he is Omnipotent.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Yes, but there was another fight, where Atum demolished him in two pages (it was Thor fighting as him, but it was Demo's powers, in fact, he did nothing new, except he did grow).

Ups and downs,

You saw him get owned in 2 pages,

I saw him stalemate Demo for Years,

shrug

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Demo had 7 Death Gods, shitting their pants at his name (Mephisto, Seth, Hela), and then he beat them.
Hell, here is a good scene...

Nice.

But again,

that was over 200 Billion years ago.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
What do you think?
Do you think it had anything to do with that post?

I wasn't sure, so I asked.

A simple yes or no is all that's required. 🙂

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
I just wanted to add something.

You can add anything you wish friend,

so long as it's Cosmic related. 😄

A small taste of Jamie Braddock Respect Thread - Coming Soon:

Here 616 Jamie has created an entire Universe from scratch,

he even made a counter-part of Himself in this Alternate Universe he Created,

Kitty Pride notices and explains:

Here Jamie is absorbing Rogue's, Phoenix 2's and Meggan's powers all at once,

again 616 Jamie who's IN the 616 Reality is manipulating everything,

in this separate Whole Universe He Created:

Here Jamie turns all the STARS in this Universe into Snow Flakes,

in order to take away Havok's power's at the time which relied on Stellar Energy:

Here back on 616 Kitty realizes how to defeat Jamie,

she talks to him like she's his mother and makes him go to bed. 😂

immediately the Alternate Universe fades away including the Alternate Jamie:

(Excalibur escape)

Originally posted by Mr Master
There's no evidence to suggest Atum can defeat the Elder gods.

Demogorge is another story, but again,

Chthon has increased in power in the last couple 100 Billion Years.

His Pocket Realm is now a Universe, where he is Omnipotent.

Atum goes and slays hordes and hordes of them (all of them).

*this is kind of cosmic related...*

Basically slaying corrupted Elder Gods (something that Chthon was turning into, based on my understanding).

So has Atum.

What has he done in this universe?
I'm not trying to argue his power, just wanting to know how powerful he has become.
Since Atum is way more powerful than the other Elder Gods.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Ups and downs,

You saw him get owned in 2 pages,

I saw him stalemate Demo for Years,

shrug

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nice.

But again,

that was over 200 Billion years ago.

Also, what does the time ago have to do with this?
My understanding is that he gets more powerful with each God he absorbed... 200 billion years, would technically be at his weakest form.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Elder Gods turned into Demons.
The Elder Gods were at war with them (they are obviously tough).

Atum goes and slays hordes and hordes of them (all of them).

*this is kind of cosmic related...*

Basically slaying corrupted Elder Gods (something that Chthon was turning into, based on my understanding).

This is Cosmic related, somewhat, and it's appreciated. 🙂

I'd just like to point out that's the scene from 200+ Billion Years ago.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
So has Atum.

I didn't know that.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
What has he done in this universe?

I'm not trying to argue his power, just wanting to know how powerful he has become.
Since Atum is way more powerful than the other Elder Gods.

Morgan Lefey summoned him once to Earth 616,

Merlyn himself had to interfere,

Chthon gave Merlyn a fight before losing.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
I saw both though...

Nice.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Unless Thor is 200 billion years old...

I always thought Thor was an Asgardian, not an Elder god.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Also, what does the time ago have to do with this?
My understanding is that he gets more powerful with each God he absorbed... 200 billion years, would technically be at his weakest form.

Assuming he's been absorbing "corrupted elder gods" all this time,

which is impossible since he absorbed all the Elders 200+ Billion Years ago.

Only a few escaped his wrath.

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is Cosmic related, somewhat, and it's appreciated. 🙂

I'd just like to point out that's the scene from 200+ Billion Years ago.

Also, proves he can beat up Gods without being Demo.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Morgan Lefey summoned him once to Earth 616,

Merlyn himself had to interfere,

Chthon gave Merlyn a fight before losing.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I always thought Thor was an Asgardian, not an Elder god.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Assuming he's been absorbing "corrupted elder gods" all this time,

which is impossible since he absorbed all the Elders 200+ Billion Years ago.

Only a few escaped his wrath.

Bottom line, Atum>>>Set.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Ok, good.
I know, and that's when he started to beat on Elders.
It's not like he has gotten weaker.

Also, proves he can beat up Gods without being Demo.

True.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Ah, scans?
Sounds interesting.

Give me some time.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
And the fight in which he owns Mephisto, Hela, and Seth is recent (or not a billion or so years ago).
Because he fought Thor in it (along with some more Gods).

Those aren't Elders though,

in any case he's never touched Chthon.

It's Chthon I consider special.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Well, he's been beating Gods...
He absorbed Death Gods, which would prove he's not limited to Elders.

Seth and

Bottom line, Atum>>>Set.

Elder gods>>>>Asgradians

I agree ... Atum>Set

Originally posted by Mr Master
Give me some time.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Those aren't Elders though,

in any case he's never touched Chthon.

It's Chthon I consider special.

Also, it is a current feat of his, and each of those Death Gods are qualified Skyfather levels...

Originally posted by Mr Master

Elder gods>>>>Asgradians

I agree ... Atum>Set

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Well, it's 9:52 PM over here...

It's 11:58 here, perhaps it's me without sufficient time. 😛

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
But Chthon tried to hurt him though, before he ran away...

What happened back then is really inconsequential.

Like I said Chthon has increased dramatically in power since.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Also, it is a current feat of his, and each of those Death Gods are qualified Skyfather levels...

Seth and Hela Skyfather?

I disagree.

But to give you some perspective on Chthon,

he has his own Universe.

Originally posted by Mr Master
It's 11:58 here, perhaps it's me without sufficient time. 😛

Originally posted by Mr Master
What happened back then is really inconsequential.

Like I said Chthon has increased dramatically in power since.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Seth and Hela Skyfather?

I disagree.

But to give you some perspective on Chthon,

he has his own Universe.

Maybe not her, but still, Mephisto, and Seth!

Yes I know, but it still doesn't tell me exactly how powerful he is...

I don't care if he's higher or lower, just that it doesn't tell me really anything of his powers.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Well, you said Chthon was a special case.

He was and is.

It's only because of him that the other Elders survived.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Seth is the one who destroyed galaxies,

When did this happen?

Even Odin can't destroy Galaxies.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
and fought Odin while both were trying pretty damn hard.
He's had some good fights with Odin also back in the days...

Seth only defeated Odin once,

when Seth had the "god of Luck" imprisoned.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Maybe not her, but still, Mephisto, and Seth!

Seth is no Skyfather,

not now not ever.

Mephisto?

Perhaps.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Yes I know, but it still doesn't tell me exactly how powerful he is...

I don't care if he's higher or lower, just that it doesn't tell me really anything of his powers.

Well it should tell you he can atleast control Reality on a Universal scale.

The catch is,

he can't transfer the Totality of his power out of his Universe.

Originally posted by Mr Master
He was and is.

It's only because of him that the other Elders survived.

Originally posted by Mr Master
When did this happen?

Even Odin can't destroy Galaxies.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Seth only defeated Odin once,

when Seth had the "god of Luck" imprisoned.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Seth is no Skyfather,

not now not ever.

Mephisto?

I can accept that.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Well it should tell you he can atleast control Reality on a Universal scale.

The catch is,

he's can't transfer the Totality of his power out of his Universe.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Because he ran away?
I don't see how that helps the other Elders...

Read the issue again.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
JIM #513.

It's that one where they fought on a all planes of reality.

"Long Dead Galaxies"

Not Galaxies packing Stellar Energies.

Also, you said Seth the one that destroyed Galaxies,

that's not what happened exactly, it was the battle between them.

I thought "JIM" only reached #125?

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Even fighting Odin, the top Skyfather should say something (exchanging blows, and actually hurting each other).
After all, it is the most powerful Skyfather and the max for Skyfather level.

Yea,

I want to read that issue myself,

and see how Seth reached that level of power to challenge Odin.

I can bet there's more to that story.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Seth is a Skyfather level, indeed.

I don't know what Plot device was used in JIM #513,

(I'll let you in on it when I read the issue)

but here's the so called Skyfather:

Like I said the only time Seth defeated Odin was with a Plot device:

"The secret of Seth's Power is nigh"

Here they find the secret:

It's the "god of Luck"

Balder with the Power of Thor,

takes Seth one on one ... Seth has to fight dirty to win:

"No one will know that I discarded the Rules of Fair Combat to destroy you"

As you can see,

Balder is still stalemating him anyway, AND, Balder's been poisoned.

Finally with even More unfair tactics, Seth defeats Balder:

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Still though, doesn't really tell of his powers.

Guess you'll have to wait till I post the Merlyn battle. 🙂

Have a good night friend.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Read the issue again.

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Long Dead Galaxies"

Not Galaxies packing Stellar Energies.

Also, you said Seth the one that destroyed Galaxies,

that's not what happened exactly, it was the battle between them.

I thought "JIM" only reached #125?

It's still Seth contributing to the destruction.
Also, here is some more talk.

That was Thor's comics with JIM. There was still an ongoing line.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea,

I want to read that issue myself,

and see how Seth reached that level of power to challenge Odin.

I can bet there's more to that story.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't know what Plot device was used in JIM #513,

(I'll let you in on it when I read the issue)

but here's the so called Skyfather:

Like I said the only time Seth defeated Odin was with a Plot device:

I wasn't talking about defeating, I was talking about causing pain to the top skyfather.
Taking pain, you know, battling him?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Guess you'll have to wait till I post the Melyn battle. 🙂

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
I've read like two issues involving the history, and neither of them mention him doing more than inscribing a parchment, and escaping.
Aren't there like 5 issues revolving around this thing?

It was still shattering a galaxy. Dead or not, which would still involve a hell of a lot of power.

It's still Seth contributing to the destruction.
Also, here is some more talk.

That was Thor's comics with JIM. There was still an ongoing line.

He has always been able to challenge Odin, maybe not beat him, but he's always been able to challenge him.

Odin was weakened, or something.

I wasn't talking about defeating, I was talking about causing pain to the top skyfather.
Taking pain, you know, battling him?

Guess so.

Mr. M, is Abraxas more powerful than Galactus. How high is Franklin Richards on your cosmic hierarchy

Originally posted by guy222
Mr. M, is Abraxas more powerful than Galactus.

Absolutely.

Originally posted by guy222
How high is Franklin Richards on your cosmic hierarchy

At this point he's at Celestial level,

but Roma said some day in the future FR will be an Omniversal power.