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Originally posted by Mr Master
Korvac didn't absorb any Abstracts, but some Cosmics.

Korvac absorbed Galactus' World Ship and these six beings,

The Stranger

The In-Betweener

The High Evolutionary

The Gardner

The Collector

The Grandmaster

and ALL of Earth's population.

Originally posted by King Kandy
In-Betweener isn't an Abstract?

Mr. M, have u heard of Edifice Rex

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually the Dreaming Celestial is the most powerful Celestial, or Was.

Especially on panel,

Exitar just hasn't done enough, he remade a Planet in Thor #389

other than that, shrug

By the way, they're both above a Normal Galactus.

Now although the Black Celestial was able to mess with Galactus' hunger, making him insatiable,

Galactus proved to be potentially more powerful, since Big G was absorbing the Universe.

I wouldn't put them above normal Galactus but that is just my openion

Originally posted by King Kandy
In-Betweener isn't an Abstract?

I don't think he is.

Originally posted by guy222
Mr. M, have u heard of Edifice Rex

I did some research,

he sounds interesting and very powerful.

I'm going to get the Series he appeared in, I read he scared even Eternity.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I did some research,

he sounds interesting and very powerful.

I'm going to get the Series he appeared in, I read he scared even Eternity.

👆

Damage Control is a great read 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm going to get the Series he appeared in, I read he scared even Eternity.

Originally posted by Galan007
Story-wise, "Damage Control" was absolute shit IMO. 😬

Perhaps,

but I always have to investigate for myself. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Perhaps,

but I always have to investigate for myself. 🙂

And "Damage Control" simply couldn't provide that to me.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't think he is.

The very definition of an abstract.

Mr Master, I notice Starhawk and the Hawk God as well as Scathan and Bubonicus are not on your list. I can provide scans and info if you want on them.

Originally posted by King Kandy
But he represents the cosmic balance... Which makes him a conceptual entity.

The very definition of an abstract.

The In-Betweener (to my knowledge) is a Cosmic Entity,

not an Abstract.

He represents the Abstracts that created him.

As far as I know he's not a Concept.

But if you can show me where it's stated, I'll gladly concede. 🙂

I don't really know, but didn't he call himself a concept at one point?

Originally posted by Starhawk
Mr Master, I notice Starhawk and the Hawk God as well as Scathan and Bubonicus are not on your list.

That's because they didn't make into my Hierarchy.

Starhawk, is a joke in comparison with the powerhouses in my list.

Hawk God, is Far beyond Starhawk,

but Hawk God is also minute in the Cosmic scheme of things.

There's also no evidence of Hawk God ever affecting anything on a Universal scale,

in fact,

the Aspect of Eternity (Single Universe) that appeared in the GOTG arc,

spoke to Hawk God like a child.

Scathan, is just a Celestial,

until there's further evidence of anything to the contrary, GOTG #49 was PIS.

Bubonicus, he wounded Eternity but not in direct confrontation.

meh, Phoenix IX stomped em.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I can provide scans and info if you want on them.

Thanx, but I have every appearance ever made by these cats.

Um I really think you need to read over Guardians, I think you missed allot. Eternity speaks like a child to EVERYONE below him. That doesn't mean they are not substantial. And Starhawks power grew ALLOT in the last few issues of the run. I really wish the comic hadn't been cancelled so they could've explored it more.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't really know, but didn't he call himself a concept at one point?

If I knew I would had said so. 🙂

KK,

now you're gonna make me go nuts looking for all the appearances of the In-betweener in my collection, in an effort to find definitive answers.

disgust

But if I didn't do it, this thread would be worthless. 🙁

So I must.

Can you post all of Hawkgods scans?

Thnks, by the way.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Um I really think you need to read over Guardians, I think you missed allot.

What have I missed?

Tell me the issue #s along with your story,

As you can be assured I will research any claim. 🙂

Originally posted by Starhawk
Eternity speaks like a child to EVERYONE below him. That doesn't mean they are not substantial.

In this case he spoke to one who was.

Originally posted by Starhawk
And Starhawks power grew ALLOT in the last few issues of the run.

I have the entire run,

what issue?

I don't remember any significant power ups.

The Hierarchy for now,

(IMO)

Above this it's inconsequential right now.

Tier 3:

1. The Living Tribunal

2. True Beyonders

Tier 4: (no particular order)

HOM Wanda (Full control)

Cosmic Containment Unit (Full Potential)

Meggan (Full potential)

Merlyn (Matrix empowered)

Cap Brit. with the Sword of Might & Amulet of Right

Havok (Merged with the Nexus of Realities)

616 Jaspers or Merged with Fury

Infinity Gauntlet

Oblivion

Jamie Braddock

Tier 5:

Celestial Nullifier

Ultimate Nullifier

Tier 6:

1.Abraxas

2. Post-Retcon Molecule Man (Owen Reece's alter ego)

Tier 7:

1. Entropy

2. Multi or (Totality) of Eternity/Infinity

3. Multi or (Totality) of Death

4. Multi or (Totality) of the rest of the Major Concepts/Abstracts of the Multiverse.

Tier 8: (no particular order)

The Infinites

The Makers

Atleza

Galactus Insatiable (only seen once) ... Potentially Higher ...

Genis Insane or Full potential (seen during HOM)

The Rot

The Hunger

Tier 9:

1. 616 Eternity/Infinity

2. White Phoenix of the Crown

3. Korvac (empowered by Galactus' World Ship)

4. 616 (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)

5. Rest of the Abstracts

Tier 10: (alternate and divergent Universes)

1. ALL Other Eternity/Infinity's

2. ALL Other (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)

3. rest of the Abstracts

Hawk God would be somewhere around here.

Below this is a grey area, too much to sort out.

I will get you scans of everything.