Originally posted by guy222
I will also. Guardians were goodMr. M, will u include Edifice Rex in your Hierarchy soon
It seems he will be included,
from what I read in his Bio,
he can Reshape the Universe quite easily,
and all the Abstracts including an Aspect of Eternity (single Universe) were afraid of him.
But I have to read the story first,
and make sure there aren't any plot devices or outlandish PIS that makes it unacceptable.
Originally posted by Mr Master
It seems he will be included,from what I read in his Bio,
he can Reshape the Universe quite easily,
and all the Abstracts including an Aspect of Eternity (single Universe) were afraid of him.
But I have to read the story first,
and make sure there aren't any plot devices or outlandish PIS that makes it unacceptable.
Like Guardians w/Scathan 🙂 Mr. M, did u like any part of Scathan. Do u believe he was a Celestial or True Beyonder. I would like to see Guardians again
Originally posted by guy222
Like Guardians w/Scathan 🙂 Mr. M, did u like any part of Scathan. Do u believe he was a Celestial or True Beyonder. I would like to see Guardians again
If Scathan is ever represented again in the way he was in GOTG, then I'll accept it.
It's just the entire story as a whole was pathetic, had they given some reason for Scathan being seemingly above the LT I would have had no choice but to concede,
but since it was just tossed in there with no regards for continuity and established Marvel Facts, no explanation of even a hint that alludes to such a rediculous concept, I dislike the show very much.
I believe Scathan is a Celestial until further notice from marvel.
Originally posted by Mr Master
If Scathan is ever represented again in the way he was in GOTG, then I'll accept it.It's just the entire story as a whole was pathetic, had they given some reason for Scathan being seemingly above the LT I would have had no choice but to concede,
but since it was just tossed in there with no regards for continuity and established Marvel Facts, no explanation of even a hint that alludes to such a rediculous concept, I dislike the show very much.
I believe Scathan is a Celestial until further notice from marvel.
I like your opinion 🙂 As a Celestial fan, it was silly. But fun
Originally posted by Mr Master
It seems he will be included,from what I read in his Bio,
he can Reshape the Universe quite easily,
and all the Abstracts including an Aspect of Eternity (single Universe) were afraid of him.
But I have to read the story first,
and make sure there aren't any plot devices or outlandish PIS that makes it unacceptable.
It wasn't PIS unless you can show another example of Scathan at a lower power level.
And he beat protege because although he had the LT's powers, he did not know how to use them effectively. Like Peter in "Heroes".
Originally posted by Starhawk
It wasn't PIS unless you can show another example of Scathan at a lower power level.
How many times you think Scathan has appeared on panel?
Celestials were created by Eternity, NO Celestial should be more powerful than Eternity,
let alone the LT.
So it was PIS.
Originally posted by Starhawk
And he beat protege because although he had the LT's powers, he did not know how to use them effectively.
I don't care what logic is used,
if LT couldn't defeat Protege,
no one save TOAA should be able either.
PIS.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Like Peter in "Heroes".
I have to disagree with your analogy, it does not correspond.
Yes it does, peter gains the powers of anyone around him, Protege gains the powers of anyone he witnesses. In both cases they gain the power but not the experience or knowledge of how to use the power properly.
And PIS is when a character with a previously showing, defeats someone more powerful then someone who has beaten them in the past.
Originally posted by Starhawk
And PIS is when a character with a previously showing, defeats someone more powerful then someone who has beaten them in the past.
Ok,
one more time and then this conversation is over,
because it's beginning to needlessly clog my thread.
Eternity is an insect to the Living Tribunal.
Eternity CREATED ALL the Celestials.
So the Celestials are insects to Eternity.
By logic and definition the Celestials MUST be less than insects to the Living Tribunal.
The story was PIS the moment Protege was able to challenge the LT,
it got worse when a Celestial defeated Protege who was "owning" LT. 😂
That will be all. 🙂
Originally posted by StarhawkNo.
No that is what PIS means.
PIS would be something like Wonder Woman blocking the OE with her bracelets, or Squirrel Girl beating characters like Doom or Thanos.
It shouldn't happen, but given a bad writer, it can and has happened.
But this is hardly the thread to talk about this matter in....... Moving on...
*dodges random objects getting thrown at him, due to the Squirrel Girl comment* 😮
Originally posted by Mr Master
Ok,one more time and then this conversation is over,
becuase it's beginning to needlessly clog my thread.
Eternity is an insect to the Living Tribunal.
Eternity CREATED ALL the Celestials.
So the Celestials are insects to Eternity.
By logic and definition the Celestial MUST be less than insects to the Living Tribunal.
That will be all. 🙂
No, your making the case that someone cannot create something more powerful then themselves which is wrong, Hank Pym made Ultron who is far more powerful then he is. Unless you can show a scan where Scathan is defeated by someone weaker then protege, then ti is not PIS and that is Scathan's power level.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I can create a H-Bomb... Doesn't mean it's an insect to me.
You're a human,
and this real world analogy doesn't fit in this particular debate anyway.
In Marvel Comics,
Eternity created the Celestials,
and the Celestials have always been beneath Eternity, in power and status.
If you have proof to the contrary, post it.
Originally posted by Starhawk
No, your making the case that someone cannot create something more powerful then themselves which is wrong, Hank Pym made Ultron who is far more powerful then he is. Unless you can show a scan where Scathan is defeated by someone weaker then protege, then ti is not PIS and that is Scathan's power level.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Unless you can show a scan where Scathan is defeated by someone weaker then protege, then ti is not PIS and that is Scathan's power level.
I said my piece, and gave you the factual reasons behind my claims.
If you wanna believe a Celestial is above the LT, go right ahead.
As you wish. 🙂