Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

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Originally posted by Utrigita
sorry not two pages back more like 5 pages back 😮 here it is
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/425758_77-everything-cosmic-in-marvel-the-hierarchy-battles-feats-q-a-scans-galore

Mr. M, have u heard of the Harvester

Here's a link

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/harvesterxman.htm

Hey guys.

Are Tenebrous and Aegis from Galactus' original universe?

Can I get scans saying one way or another?

Another question.

Is someone using a Cosmic Cube stronger than a Cosmic Cube being?

No they wasn't from his original universe, I will help you when I get back from school I have the scans that can help you in your quest (I have decided to give you a hand against Pike) Hello Guy Hope Mr Master soon will answear you question 😄

Originally posted by guy222
Mr. M, have u heard of the Harvester

Here's a link

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/harvesterxman.htm

I never got into the "X-Man" series, he seems pretty cool though.

A Planetary scale Warper, not bad. 🙂

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Hey guys.

Are Tenebrous and Aegis from Galactus' original universe?

Can I get scans saying one way or another?

I don't think so, I'm also not 100% sure.

I have to flip pages.

As you know Galactus was just a Galan (a humanoid) of the planet Taa.

I believe Aegis and Tenebrous are factored into the Galactus' history at the begining of current Universe, when it was still young.

I would be surprised in they were part of previous Universe.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Another question.

Is someone using a Cosmic Cube stronger than a Cosmic Cube being?

Yes.

The scale of it's influence depends on the "Will" of the wielder.

Thanos became the 616 Universe.

Magus with 5 CCU created a duplicate 616 Universe.

Doom also created a separate Universe and merged it with the 616 Reality.

Magneto took the same CCU, and created another Universe and merged that one with the Universe Doom created plus the 616 Reality.

Red Skull took the same CCU, and created yet another Universe, and merged that with the Three UniverseS that were already merged, 616 being one of them.

That's 4 UniverseS merged, 616 and Three UniverseS created from scratch/nothingness,

by a single CCU.

616 Iron Man and X-O (character from another Reality)

remade the Omniverse with a CCU,

that same CCU remade the Marvel Omniverse several times on it's own before that, to create a Reality where Iron Man and X-O had the "Will" to manipulate it on that scale.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
True, but it seemed weak of it to have to die to create the universe, mutliverse or omniverse.
I mean couldent it just create it with a gesture?

It didn't have to die, it simply had no peers.

There was life in that Universe that encompassed the IB, but it was insignificant to his existence.

So he was alone, because everything that was, was him.

In order to find meaning to it's existence, it died,

this way spreading it's energies to produce a new creation, one separate from itself, but sine it wanted to experience existence within this new Reality, it imbued the 7 Infinity Gems with much of it's power and it's consciousness.

How TOAA fits into this, I just don't know for sure.

Perhaps TOAA was created by the IB.
Perhaps TOAA was manipulating the whole thing and no one knows it.
Perhaps TOAA was created on it's own, like an evolution type deal.
Perhaps TOAA is beyond the limitation of reasoning, and always was like the IB but on a grander level.
Perhaps TOAA really is the Writers of Marvel and as such is inapplicable in description.

Pick your favorite (not many more choices imo)

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I would set the Infinity being with the true Beyonders in the hierarchy, beneath the Living Tribunal.

In the new Hierarchy I'll let my decisions be known, for good.

I'm still researching on the side lines. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yes.

The scale of it's influence depends on the "Will" of the wielder.

Thanos became the 616 Universe.

Magus with 5 CCU created a duplicate 616 Universe.

Doom also created a separate Universe and merged it with the 616 Reality.

Magneto took the same CCU, and created another Universe and merged that one with the Universe Doom created plus the 616 Reality.

Red Skull took the same CCU, and created yet another Universe, and merged that with the Three UniverseS that were already merged, 616 being one of them.

That's 4 UniverseS merged, 616 and Three UniverseS created from scratch/nothingness,

by a single CCU.

616 Iron Man and X-O (character from another Reality)

remade the Omniverse with a CCU,

that same CCU remade the Marvel Omniverse several times on it's own before that, to create a Reality where Iron Man and X-O had the "Will" to manipulate it on that scale.

And to think that the cubes are only meant to have but a small factions of the real beyonder powers, it is actually scaring.

Where would you place them Mr Master the Beyonders?

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't think so, I'm also not 100% sure.

I have to flip pages.

As you know Galactus was just a Galan (a humanoid) of the planet Taa.

I believe Aegis and Tenebrous are factored into the Galactus' history at the begining of current Universe, when it was still young.

I would be surprised in they were part of previous Universe.

Couldn't agree more Galan was and has always been the sole surviver of the previous universe.

Originally posted by Utrigita
And to think that the cubes are only meant to have but a small factions of the real beyonder powers, it is actually scaring.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Where would you place them Mr Master the Beyonders?

16 more pages to go. 🙂

I'd put the IB and the True beyonders as exact equals in the new hierarchy.

Mr Master the reason why CCU are stronger then CC that have gain sentient hasn't it something to do with them putting limitation on themselves (just needs that one cleared)

to King Kandy: I would place them, around LT's level, after all he allowed the experiment that involved the CC to enter the 616 universe. Thus the Beyonders asked for his permission.

Its just every time I hear that they can remake the omniverse a near infinite amounts of time with but a small faction of that power, it scares me...

Originally posted by Utrigita
Mr Master the reason why CCU are stronger then CC that have gain sentient hasn't it something to do with them putting limitation on themselves (just needs that one cleared)

Correct.

The CCU as it develops consciousness further limits it's capacity.

But the CCU on it's own must have some sort of sentience in order to do that imo.

Perhaps it's a premeditated precaution built into them by the BeyonderS.

I'm not too sure.

Thanks

How full would Galactus be if he went around eating all the pocket universes and dimensions in 616?

Originally posted by Nikkolas
How full would Galactus be if he went around eating all the pocket universes and dimensions in 616?

He wouldn't reach full power I can tell you that.

"Galactus who's busy wolfin' (eating) down ALL of TIME and SPACE"

"Still the Giant doth continue to grow"

"Eventually, Thor, He would SPAN the entire Universe"

"The time will come soon when ALL the Energy in the Universe through out it's HISTORY

will NOT be sufficient to feed him"

Galactus has the capacity to take out more than a Universe,

was Reed referring to the Multiverse? hm

This is from the Black Celestial arc, FF#337-341

Tiamut messed with Galactus' point of satiation, making big G ravenous, but it was big G's own power that was capable of absorbing Reality.

Can Galactus become ravenous at will?
Can Galactus alter his own limitations in the feeding department?
Does Galactus have to stop, after he's satiated? Or is it by choice?

Pretty good questions imo.

God/TOAA

(excerpt from the Fantastic Four Ultimate Guide)

Owen Reece (pre-retcon Molecule Man)


"the most dangerous and powerful being in the entire Multiverse"

(excerpt from the Fantastic Four Ultimate Guide)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Owen Reece (pre-retcon Molecule Man)


"the most dangerous and powerful being in the entire Multiverse"

I think they're talking about Pre-Retcon Molecule man.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I think they're talking about Pre-Retcon Molecule man.

They are,

which is why I titled it:

Owen Reece (pre-retcon Molecule Man)

That's that hydro right? (probably homegrown)

I'm getting lifted myself later on, boombonic baby. 😄