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Is there any proof that he was going to destroy the Multiverse instead of just the universe?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Havok, if he's still merged with the Nexus of all Realities, may be in the top 5 of Hierarchy.

It's getting tight at the top,

I've discovered several uber beings that will be contending for those top slots.

Vulcan probably is

I will wait for ur list 🙂

Originally posted by King Kandy
Is there any proof that he was going to destroy the Multiverse instead of just the universe?

There's only been one Cosmic Egg.

Universes are still being born through Big Bangs, but these Universes are already in place in the Multiversal stack according to Ultimate Reed, these Universes occupy a sector of the Multiverse awaiting their Birth/Big Bang.

Unlike the Cosmic Egg, which was a single point of all Energy,

these Universes awaiting a Big Bang in the Multiverse are in a "Vast Space" made of gases and formeless energy of sorts, actually Reed explains it better:

I thought there were many, each consisting of 30 cosmic cubes.

No, that was a different thing created by the Goddess in Infinity Crusade, just with the same name.

Originally posted by guy222
Vulcan probably is

I will wait for ur list

I don't know that much about Vulcan, but I'm going to start reading up on him,
he seems powerful from what I read in his bio, but I like reading and seeing things with my own eyes.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I thought there were many, each consisting of 30 cosmic cubes.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
No, that was a different thing created by the Goddess in Infinity Crusade, just with the same name.

Mr Master.

How did Depowered Tyrant defeat Galactus I know that Full Powered basically got his ass handed to him and got depowered, but then how did the depowered almost manahe winning.

mr master what is purpose of the celestail messaih?

At the last five pages 95-100 I think we should discuss how you're going to make the next list.

that would be a good idea Thanos_THOTU

BtW isnt Obivion Death's counterpart like Infinity's is Eternity's?
That's what the bio on marvel

Powers and abilities
Oblivion has vast cosmic powers which he can use for various effects. Originally Oblivion only had dominance over creatures who didn't die, but were wiped out from existence (due to a time paradox or being hit by the Ultimate Nullifier for example), while his counterpart Death was set over the actual dead. In his recent appearances though, Oblivion has used Deathurge and Doorman as "Angels of Death", sending them to bring him the souls of creatures who have actually died.

Shouldent he be, Death, Eternity, Infinity, FP Galctus level?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
BtW isnt Obivion Death's counterpart like Infinity's is Eternity's?
That's what the bio on marvel

Shouldent he be, Death, Eternity, Infinity, FP Galctus level?

If you will allow me to answear the question.

He is truly the counterpart of death, but unlike his follow abstrabts he cannot be killed by the UN, because he is what the UN makes.

Originally posted by Utrigita
If you will allow me to answear the question.

He is truly the counterpart of death, but unlike his follow abstrabts he cannot be killed by the UN, because he is what the UN makes.


Yes I understand that, but everything that can be killed is not beneath Death either.
For instance if Beyonder would have killed The Living Tribunal during the Secret Wars, it would probably be sent to the realm of Death as well, but it doesnt mean that Death is above it.

Or to put it in another way, imagine if Abraxas was killed, not nullified, he would be sent to the realm of Death as well, but it doesnt mean that he's beneath the abstract.
- It's just that whatever would have killed him would have helped Death overcome him.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Mr Master.

How did Depowered Tyrant defeat Galactus I know that Full Powered basically got his ass handed to him and got depowered, but then how did the depowered almost manahe winning.

The whole story,

you know I'm thorough. 🙂

FP Tyrant was defeated by Galactus in (Cosmic Powers#6) I believe,
or (Silver Surfer-v3#82).

Galactus depowered him.

Then in (Silver Surfer v3#81)
we learn Tyrant's been absorbing energy for ages since he was depowered.

Tyrant then absorbed Gladiator & BRB's energy stores,
Morg & Terrax' power's were also drained, adding it to Tyrant's stores,

Tyrant then drained the powers of Silver Surfer and Ganymede,

(Silver Surfer v3 #82) Jack of Hearts freed all them from the cells that were draining their powers, Tyrant defeated them all, then Galactus came through, and then both Tyrant and Galactus made a truce, for the moment.

(Cosmic Powers #6) Ganymede, Jack of Hearts, Legacy and Terrax jumped Tyrant, Thanos stole a "Sphere of Power" Tyrant had and depowered Tyrant somewhat. Terra actually wounded Tyrant, but they were all defeated.

Thanos then stalemated this slightly depowered Tyrant, satisfied with stalemating Tyrant Thanos teleported away, then we learn Tyrant has a larger "Sphere of Power"

(Cosmic Powers Unlimited #3) Another "Sphere of power" is stolen from Tyrant (depowering him further)

(SIlver Surfer v3 #108) Depowered Tyrant and FED Galactus battle, at first Galactus was absorbing Tyrant's energy stores using his World Ship, but then Tyrant was able to Willfully reverse the flow because of his greater level of Biospheric Energy control, draining Galactus's biospheric energy instead.

(Silver Surfer v3 #109) Tyrant, Morg, Air-Walker and the Toady-drone get Nullified,
Galactus managed to escape.

So what does all this lead to?

Depowered Tyrant defeated Galactus,
by absorbing his Biospheric Energy stores with help from Galactus' World Ship,

biospheric energy, which Tyrant had a better control over than Galactus.

Originally posted by lordboo
mr master what is purpose of the celestail messaih?

There was a prophesy that one day, the perfest Human (Celestial Madonna) would have a union with the perfect Plant, and from their union would spring the perfect child (Celestial Messiah) who was destined to change the Universe.

His name is Quoi, and he has limited control over the Power Cosmic for now.

He was able to absorb half of Thanos' power during the Avengers: Celestial Quest arc.

He will become more powerful as he matures,

to what extent, I do not know.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
At the last five pages 95-100 I think we should discuss how you're going to make the next list.

That's a good idea,

after all, it's Our list, we will all figure it out together.

According to who's done what, and who can do (conclusively) though hasn't done.

eg. ER collpsing Reality back into the Cosmic Egg,

he didn't do it, but based on other Facts, we Know he CAN.

We'll also have to gauge the BeyonderS comprehensibly based on the feats of Cosmic Cubes,

and so on,

we'll be dealing with a few of these, but for the most part, everything is in black and white.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yes I understand that, but everything that can be killed is not beneath Death either.
For instance if Beyonder would have killed The Living Tribunal during the Secret Wars, it would probably be sent to the realm of Death as well, but it doesnt mean that Death is above it.

Or to put it in another way, imagine if Abraxas was killed, not nullified, he would be sent to the realm of Death as well, but it doesnt mean that he's beneath the abstract.
- It's just that whatever would have killed him would have helped Death overcome him.

Concepts don't have souls like common life-forms.

The Spirit of Galactus is like that of Eternity and Infinity's,

they are beyond the power of the Soul Gem, they are beyond the touch of Death.

The Spirit of Eternity lingered after it was nullified by Korvac,
Eternity's Life-Force was erased but not his unique Spirit.

The reason for this ofcourse is, that the individual Universes only represent a fragment of the Spirit of the Consciosness that encompassed said UniverseS.

The true Spirit/Consciousness of Eternity resides in the entire Multiverse.

Is that why Adam Warlock couldn't use the soul rip on the In - Betweener?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Is that why Adam Warlock couldn't use the soul rip on the In - Betweener?

The souls of beings like abstracts are beyond the power of the Soul Gem without the Power Gem backing it. Aside from that, Adam is often hesitant to use the soul rip on beings with powerful personalities, because there's a chance that his mind will be overwhelmed by theirs.