Originally posted by Creshosk
Argument form silence and ad ignorantiam. haermm Damn dude, two fallacies in one sentence...
Cresh, I've looked through all the bullet scans, but I didn't see one when anybody purposely tried to shot wolverine through a cavity, if you have one, or maybe capt or jinzin, I would like to see it.
Originally posted by ApolloknightHe's obviously within the 98% category for compatability with the human species.. monkies share 98% of their DNA with us, but a human chimp hybrid jsut isn't possible without heavy gene splicing.
Two things, wolverines not human;
Originally posted by ApolloknightDo you really think that with all the machine gun fire he's dealt with he WOULDN'T be hit in the eye?
and, has anybody else purposely; not aiming at his head or "in the vicinity" but with the sole intent tried to shot wolverine in a cavity besides the four "PIS" occurances?
I got a better one for you.. aside from the PIS, got any real proof that he DOESN'T have bones in those places?
And remember each case is seperate as its FOUR seperate locations that he villians just happen to shoot and that just happen to have holes leading right to the brain..,
In a word.. Stupid... Seriously.. what would keep his eye from directly touching his brain, and possibly getting a piece of it stuck in his head?
The only angle it makes sense from is a wolverine hater/Troll
Originally posted by psycho gundam
wolverine has a normal human skull + adamantium, there is no room for
scalphunter's bullet to pass through unless his bullet was made of vibranium or something.xavier's has notes on all the biologies and weaknesses of the x-men and knows how to deal with logan, his notes said nothing about him missing the bones in his eye socket.
Seriously. If he was missing bones... we'd know about it by now. It is a pretty significant weakness. I would be in a SHIELD or X-Men dossier by now.
It would be like...
NOTE: Despite Weapon X spending hundreds of millions of dollars to bond Adamantium to a target... they choose the one guy who is missing 15% of his skull, making the experiment a significantly poor investment. If you see Wolverine - Aim for the eyes, unlike a normal human... there is nothing behind them but brain.
It's PIS.
Originally posted by ApolloknightYeah.. because ONE showing of a given cavity overrides the natural state of things.. Storm CAN control the sun. 😱 Spiderman CAN knock out Firelord. 😖hock:
Cresh, I've looked through all the bullet scans, but I didn't see one when anybody purposely tried to shot wolverine through a cavity, if you have one, or maybe capt or jinzin, I would like to see it.
Amazing! One feat that contradicts the norm is all that's needed... but oh wait...
The rules say otherwise... Keep breaking them if you want.. I'll eventually lose my patience with this flagrant rules violation and probably report you as well.
Ad ignorantium fallacy.
http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boneclawwolverinebc7dr4.jpg
notice how there bone hehind the were the eye could be meaning it would be pis for a bullet to enter through such a way...........
You know going by one time showings we got him climbing out of a vat of molten steel and surviving a nuke like blast with his pants in tact. hmm
I suppose if we just ignore the fact that certain feats are PIS ... I'll just have to start asking how they could do more damage than a volt of molten steel which obviously didn't get in to destroy the brain... or a nuke that also didn't get in to destroy the brain....
Originally posted by Creshosk
He's obviously within the 98% category for compatability with the human species.. monkies share 98% of their DNA with us, but a human chimp hybrid jsut isn't possible without heavy gene splicing.Do you really think that with all the machine gun fire he's dealt with he WOULDN'T be hit in the eye?
So are we to "assume" that the the crazy amount of machine gun fire wolverine has dealt with, at least one bullet has hit him in the eye? I mean its possible, but possible and assume are often two words not to solid in a debate.
Originally posted by Creshosk
I got a better one for you.. aside from the PIS, got any real proof that he DOESN'T have bones in those places?
I like this strategy, put the burden of proof back on the other side. Its a very solid strategy; but there is proof that he; in fact; doesn't have bones in those places; thanks to the feats you call PIS.
Originally posted by Creshosk
And remember each case is seperate as its FOUR seperate locations that he villians just happen to shoot and that just happen to have holes leading right to the brain..,In a word.. Stupid... Seriously.. what would keep his eye from directly touching his brain, and possibly getting a piece of it stuck in his head?
The only angle it makes sense from is a wolverine hater/Troll
I don't know if anybody is really hating on wolverine; well I know I'm not, I'm more then happy to give wolverine his due when his due is just; but I have a hard time disregarding on panel evidence.
Sorry if I seem like a troll to you.
Originally posted by ApolloknightDo you know what the odds are of not hitting him in the eye?
So are we to "assume" that the the crazy amount of machine gun fire wolverine has dealt with, at least one bullet has hit him in the eye? I mean its possible, but possible and assume are often two words not to solid in a debate.
Also:
http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boneclawwolverinebc7dr4.jpg
Originally posted by ApolloknightNot really. As I said each one is seperate. putting a crowwbow through his ear doesn't prove there's no bone behind his eye. Putting a bullet through his eye doesn't prove that there's no bones behind his ears. and neither prove that he doesn't have bone on the top of his skull (I know its not one of the things, that's the point. Those two feats are one time things for the one thing that they had, they do not stack, nor do they prove that wolverine has the ability to shoot puppies out of his butt, they only show what they show.)
I like this strategy, put the burden of proof back on the other side. Its a very solid strategy; but there is proof that he; in fact; doesn't have bones in those places; thanks to the feats you call PIS.
Originally posted by ApolloknightHow about the guys that will do everything they can to play down his feats despite the evidence to the contrary. One guy openly said "That scan contradicts the one I have, so its not viable as evidence.. despite their being 13 scans vs his ONE.
I don't know if anybody is really hating on wolverine;
Tell me that's not mad hatin and I'll sell you a bridge I have a deed for.
Originally posted by ApolloknightSo you think that PIS doesn't exist?
well I know I'm not, I'm more then happy to give wolverine his due when his due is just; but I have a hard time disregarding on panel evidence.
Originally posted by ApolloknightNo, you're just starting to irritate me a little. OneDumbG0 is the troll.
Sorry if I seem like a troll to you.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boneclawwolverinebc7dr4.jpgnotice how there bone hehind the were the eye could be meaning it would be pis for a bullet to enter through such a way...........
Hey capt can you do me a favor. Do you think you can thumbnail it so I can see it?
I'm not at home right now and my work computer blocks imageshack. I would hate the have to wait until I get home to look at it.
Originally posted by srankmissingninOh please. It's on-panel. You're reduced to arguing PIS when I countered every single point you've made. You have nothing on-panel that contradicts the scans. In fact, I just thought of another time that it appears someone penetrated up into his brain. In the fight against Danger, she grows foot long claws just like Wolverine and at the end of the fight, she sticks them straight up Wolverine's throat. There was no room for the claws to go except up into his brain. Which eminently explains why Wolverine was out for the count in that fight. It also lends further credence to Deadpool shooting Wolverine's brain and X-23 and Wolverine having conversation about how X-23 could do it to Logan when she threatened to. Anybody have that scan where Danger shoves her claws up under Logan's chin into his brain? Let's see it. Anybody have that scan?
Seriously. If he was missing bones... we'd know about it by now. It is a pretty significant weakness. I would be in a SHIELD or X-Men dossier by now.It would be like...
NOTE: Despite Weapon X spending hundreds of millions of dollars to bond Adamantium to a target... they choose the one guy who is missing 15% of his skull, making the experiment a significantly poor investment. If you see Wolverine - Aim for the eyes, unlike a normal human... there is nothing behind them but brain.
It's PIS.
In the face of all this, the best you guys have come up with is some vague tiny picture from the Xavier Protocols that shows his skull. And MAYBE there's bone backing it. Of course, it could just be the damn back of his skull that you're seeing. Perhaps I can show you scans of Wolverine being incinerated and the big gaping black holes that you see in his eye sockets that indicate depth:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8926/1skeleton2kb8.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4096/1skeleton3ha9.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5435/skeleto4hr6.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9862/skeleto5ny4.jpg
http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/~editor/brant/solicitations/Marvel/nov06/WOLV048_cov.jpg
http://www.bamkapow.com/ul/482-718new_storyimage1893092_full.jpg
Seriously guys. Come on now.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
In the face of all this, the best you guys have come up with is some vague tiny picture from the Xavier Protocols that shows his skull. And MAYBE there's bone backing it. Of course, it could just be the damn back of his skull that you're seeing. Perhaps I can show you scans of Wolverine being incinerated and the big gaping black holes that you see in his eye sockets that indicate depth:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8926/1skeleton2kb8.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4096/1skeleton3ha9.jpghttp://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5435/skeleto4hr6.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9862/skeleto5ny4.jpghttp://www.silverbulletcomics.com/~editor/brant/solicitations/Marvel/nov06/WOLV048_cov.jpg
http://www.bamkapow.com/ul/482-718new_storyimage1893092_full.jpgSeriously guys. Come on now.
I know you guys think onedumb is a troll, but I was going to point out the same thing.
He beat me to the punch.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0the scan with nitro, logan came back from that.
In the face of all this, the best you guys have come up with is some vague tiny picture from the Xavier Protocols that shows his skull. And MAYBE there's bone backing it. Of course, it could just be the damn back of his skull that you're seeing. Perhaps I can show you scans of Wolverine being incinerated and the big gaping black holes that you see in his eye sockets that indicate depth:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8926/1skeleton2kb8.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4096/1skeleton3ha9.jpghttp://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5435/skeleto4hr6.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9862/skeleto5ny4.jpghttp://www.silverbulletcomics.com/~editor/brant/solicitations/Marvel/nov06/WOLV048_cov.jpg
http://www.bamkapow.com/ul/482-718new_storyimage1893092_full.jpgSeriously guys. Come on now.
and the older ones were from back in the day when his healing factor was much slower.
