Thanos with IG vs White Crown Phoenix

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
👆 I absolutely agree with this.

Incomplete IG > Quasar trying to use the UN.

The significance of turning the UN's power back on Quasar, whether it's screwing with his mind to shoot it upon himself, transporting Quasar spatially into the effects of nullification or simply redirecting the focused blast of power back onto Quasar does not suggest that the Infinity Gauntlet's level of power surpasses the UN's power to reset the entire Marvel Multiverse.

Black Alice literally stole all of Spectre's power in Day of Vengeance. She made it her own and used it. That feat clearly suggests that she can affect the Spectreforce. And she didn't just redirect the Spectreforce to feedback onto him. She redirected it by literally imbuing it in her own body. That doesn't mean Black Alice > Spectre.

But I still pretty much disagree with everything you suggest regarding Here Comes Tomorrow, GS. You tried to convince me that Jean accomplished one of the greatest feats in comics, i.e. telekinetically manifesting an entire universe in her hands and telekinetically cutting away a future... off-panel. But your use of purple prose, your stretching of the limits of an isolated statement, all while disregarding context results in a ruination of your assertions.
facepalm Already addressed:

What you said about the UN and what could've happened is all speculation on your part. It is entirely possible the IG power to reset is greater then the UN's. It's speculation both ways, however, the IG was seen to defeat the UN. How that happened is left up to conjecture but the more probable thing no matter what is IG > UN in all ways, most ways or some ways.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It is entirely possible the IG power to reset is greater then the UN's. It's speculation both ways, however, the IG was seen to defeat the UN.

Originally posted by Mindset
Not really, since we've seen the UN accomplish a feat that the IG with all the gems didn't.

Couldn't or didn't?

Presumably both.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What you said about the UN and what could've happened is all speculation on your part. It is entirely possible the IG power to reset is greater then the UN's. It's speculation both ways, however, the IG was seen to defeat the UN. How that happened is left up to conjecture but the more probable thing no matter what is IG > UN in all ways, most ways or some ways.

Originally posted by Mindset
Presumably both.

Presumably is the key word there. It's not known. What we do know is the UN as you pointed out has a great feat on panel and yet wasn't able to effect an Incomplete IG on panel. So, why that was is conjecture but probable the IG is above the UN. How much above and it what was is unknown.

Unless you think a incomplete IG can simultaneously affect the entirety of Marvel, which would be pretty ridiculous, UN is at least more powerful than the incomplete IG.

Originally posted by Mindset
Unless you think a incomplete IG can simultaneously affect the entirety of Marvel, which would be pretty ridiculous, UN is at least more powerful than the incomplete IG.

Why then did it have no effect on the incomplete IG then?

Originally posted by Mindset
Unless you think a incomplete IG can simultaneously affect the entirety of Marvel, which would be pretty ridiculous

Sure. Why not? Set's blasts have affected every plane of reality. Ditto for Odin.

Originally posted by Enyalus
WCP is fighting Thanos w/ IG...

And Eternity is Eternity is Eternity. They don't come in greater or lessers, or more than one.

But I do believe that there is a multiversal Eternity too.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why then did it have no effect on the incomplete IG then?

Do you think Black Alice > Spectre?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Sure. Why not? Set's blasts have affected every plane of reality. Ditto for Odin.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Do you think Black Alice > Spectre?

We've already seen how that fight played out, though. She wasn't able to hurt him.

Originally posted by Mindset
Neither blast reset the entire Marvel universe.

You only asked if it could affect all of Marvel simultaneously. 😛 I said yes.

not a good analogy at all. So, then tell me why the UN couldn't defeat the incomplete IG. Where is the panel that says it was because Quasar sucks. Show me that panel. The fact is it didn't plain and simple and the arc was meant to depict the IG being greater than the UN

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
not a good analogy at all. So, then tell me why the UN couldn't defeat the incomplete IG. Where is the panel that says it was because Quasar sucks. Show me that panel. The fact is it didn't plain and simple and the arc was meant to depict the IG being greater than the UN

Incomplete IG diverted the UN's power back onto it's user. Stated on-panel by Magus. Black Alice diverted the Spectreforce and absorbed it into herself. Incomplete IG > UN based on the silly equivocation whereby diverting power = superior power? Then based on that, Black Alice > Spectre. Don't use double-standards.

Even a complete IG has no feat coming close to the complete resetting of the Marvel Multiverse. Featwise, UN > IG in spades. And if you can get over the silly equivocating rationale that diverting power = superiority in power, then Quasar getting wtfpwned by Magus is meaningless.

IG didn't just divert the UN's power. It turned it back on Quasar.

^ Black Alice didn't just divert the Spectreforce. Black Alice stole it for herself and wielded it against Eclipso.

Black Alice > Spectre?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Black Alice didn't just divert the Spectreforce. Black Alice stole it for herself and wielded it against Eclipso.

Black Alice > Spectre?

If she could've hit him, yeah. Obviously. She can take his power at will. I'd say that would give her the advantage in a one-on-one battle, wouldn't you?

Originally posted by Mindset
Unless you think a incomplete IG can simultaneously affect the entirety of Marvel, which would be pretty ridiculous, UN is at least more powerful than the incomplete IG.