Thanos with IG vs White Crown Phoenix

Started by id36985 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
Ahh, get this gibberish out of here dogs.

If you got proof then post, if not stop hatin.

Nothing.

Omnipotence means absolute power over time/space.

Levels of omnipotence depends on the scale of that power over time/space.

Simple and effective.

More poppycock ... you wanna start a war with me? .. I'm bored so bring it.

Let me know when you got something of significance to add concerning Marvel cosmological affairs.

Cause right about now you just hating cause you gots nada.

I'll post the actual Phoenix Force (Host-less) AGAIN,
getting dropped by 6 heroes.

While you're at it,
try and post a scene of Phoenix defeating a considerable foe, just once.

And also, try and post Phoenix creating just even just a Galaxy, let alone a Universe. 😂

Start a war? With you?

Your boring member. The moment, some one puts up a thought out response. You revert to slap fist replies, and saturated pre-written posts.

But seriously grab a math book and a bible. It can be any bible, I respect all religions.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

wait 1 wich Eternity is he talkin about
Eternity 616 (only 1 universe) or multi-Eternity?

their 2 diffrent things and iirc they never show wat multi-Eternity looks like


There's no such thing as "Multi-Eternity"

Because the so-called Multi-Eternity is actually just Eternity 616.

Eternity 616 is the manifested power of the prime Multiverse entire,
I mean in one hand he holds entire UniverseSSS!

Here is more On Panel PROOF of what 616 Eternity is
during the Infinity Gauntlet Trilogy;

This is also straight from the IG Trilogy:

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616 Eternity appears before Strange:

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Respect 616 Eternity biatch!

Eternity is Time incarnated ...

When he raises a Hand which holds whole universeS withIN it,

Past Present and Future"

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Phoenix supposedly held one alternate reality in her hands,
and that's the highlight of thie fanboy mayhem.

Well, Eternity contains RealitieSSS (UniverseS) in one hand,

yawn

Eternity >>> Phoenix (any time, any day)

Originally posted by id369

Start a war? With you?

Your boring member. The moment, some one puts up a thought out response. You revert to slap fist replies, and saturated pre-written posts.


Still nothing, just puffin up your chest and talking shit to feel good.
Originally posted by id369

But seriously grab a math book and a bible. It can be any bible, I respect all religions.


stfu2 .... more gibberish, you're beginning to let the troll out I see.

... freakin hater.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Hey Mr. Master, you wanna refute GS's unfounded claims about M-Bodies only tapping into a fraction of the power that those concepts represent? You probably have a lot more on-panel evidence than I do regarding that.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/anthropo.htm

"Anthro is a living fractal,
able to shape himself in an infinite manner.
He can assume a physical for fro non-physical or abstract beings.

These forms have access to the Full Power of the original being"

On Panel evidence to accompany this truth coming in another hot minute. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
Still nothing, just puffin up your chest and talking shit to feel good.

stfu2 .... more gibberish, you're beginning to let the troll out I see.

... freakin hater.

Oh ok, what the topic again?

Originally posted by Mr Master
There's no such thing as "Multi-Eternity"

Because the so-called Multi-Eternity is actually just Eternity 616.

Eternity 616 is the manifested power of the prime Multiverse entire,
I mean in one hand he holds entire UniverseSSS!

Here is more On Panel PROOF of what 616 Eternity is
during the Infinity Gauntlet Trilogy;

This is also straight from the IG Trilogy:

..................................................................................

616 Eternity appears before Strange:

..................................................................................

Respect 616 Eternity biatch!

Eternity is Time incarnated ...

When he raises [B]a Hand which holds whole universeS withIN it,

Past Present and Future"

..................................................................................

Phoenix supposedly held one alternate reality in her hands,
and that's the highlight of thie fanboy mayhem.

Well, Eternity contains RealitieSSS (UniverseS) in one hand,

yawn

Eternity >>> Phoenix (any time, any day) [/B]

hey im not talkin about PF (ima going offtopic) just Eternity 😉

cuz some ppl here say there is a multi-Eternity but others say theres only "small" Eternitys like 1 for each universe or something

if 616 Eternity is for entire multiverse then whos the Eternity that Merlin killed with dat nullifier of his? (when he destroyed 238) wuz is just one of Eternity616 minions?

also say if Merlin target 616 with the nullifer is he gonna destroy 616 Eternity?
(but if 616 Eternity is for all universes dat means if Merlin targets 616 then he destroys all of marvel multiverse & not just 616???)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

hey im not talkin about PF (ima going offtopic) just Eternity


That's cool.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer

cuz some ppl here say there is a multi-Eternity but others say theres only "small" Eternitys like 1 for each universe or something


Because many didn't read the arc and didn't understand that "Multi-Eternity"
is just ALL of Eternity, or basically Eternity's totality.

"and where One Eternity would ensure a boundless Universe,
a Multi-Eternity would ensure a boundless Multiverse
"

...........................

Now notice Reed calling this "Multi-Eternity" ... just Eternity:

"What was revealed to me through the Cosmic Entity known as ETERNITY"

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

if 616 Eternity is for entire multiverse then whos the Eternity that Merlin killed with dat nullifier of his? (when he destroyed 238) wuz is just one of Eternity616 minions?


That was one of Eternity's aspects (or alternate realities)

Although, all of Eternity's fragements (entire singular Universes)
share the same consciousness as the totality.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

also say if Merlin target 616 with the nullifer is he gonna destroy 616 Eternity?
(but if 616 Eternity is for all universes dat means if Merlin targets 616 then he destroys all of marvel multiverse & not just 616???)


Correct, if 616 Eternity is destroyed somehow,
all of Marvel will quickly follow.

"After my last report however, we were forced to reinspect our fundamental principles.
We concluded that the destruction of This Universe,
while still bounded by the speed of light,
would occur within an expanding simultaneity, which would,
paratemporally, have begun immediately
following the initial
nanoseconds
of This Universe.

And then it would Expand outward from This Universe ...
we call it 616 ... to engulf All Others ... "

Dr Strange says,

"I do not understand ... please explain more simply"

Uatu explains more simply,

"If your World Dies now, Stephen, it will take Everything with it.

Not only This Universe (616) but All the Other UniverseS as well.

Everything there is, will End.

Or rather put it even more simply, Everything will never have been"

==============================

Yet again, in another separate arc,
another Watcher states the same claim:

Here we are in yet another title where the same thing is stated,
by Ute:

"Or THIS, the Prime Reality (616) will fall and with it ... ALL EXISTENCE"

so is celestial nulifier (thats what they called it iirc) gonna work on 616 or are they gonna need more punch then that? (since 616 is "special"😉

maybe the UN? (if UN can destroy 616 that woud mean Galactus can destroy entire MU Eternity!! but on other hand Galactus suppose to be < Eternity..)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

so is celestial nulifier (thats what they called it iirc) gonna work on 616 or are they gonna need more punch then that? (since 616 is "special"😉

maybe the UN? (if UN can destroy 616 that woud mean Galactus can destroy entire MU Eternity!! but on other hand Galactus suppose to be < Eternity..)


CN and UN are the same as far as I know.

The only difference is range.

CN can erase any single Universe in the Omniverse,
although it potentially can wipe them all out,
since the Celestial Guardians have the entire life-orce of the Omniverse at their disposal.

UN proved to be able to erase the entire prime Multiverse in an instant,
it also re-created the prime Multiverse instantaneously right after.

Imo, at this moment, it's possible the UN remade all of Marvel,
although, I can't really prove that,
but the numbers add up when we realize the intricate function 616 has to everything else.

ouch
so that place Galactus also > MU abstracts cuz the UN is part of him

and Merlin above all abstracts (even LT?) since he can kill them

dat means MJJ616 is >>>> LT and other abstracts (possibly TOAA lvl)
in fact MJJ616 cant be nulified right? so dat means he exist outside MU so that place him on same lvl as pre-retcon Beyonder level or something!!! same gos for his construct (the fury bot) cuz it cant be nullified therefor MJJ616 and his creations their all > MU abstracts

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
ouch
so that place Galactus also > MU abstracts cuz the UN is part of him

and Merlin above all abstracts (even LT?) since he can kill them

dat means MJJ616 is >>>> LT and other abstracts (possibly TOAA lvl)
in fact MJJ616 cant be nulified right? so dat means he exist outside MU so that place him on same lvl as pre-retcon Beyonder level or something!!! same gos for his construct (the fury bot) cuz it cant be nullified therefor MJJ616 and his creations their all > MU abstracts

no offense but you seem to be using alot of A>B>C logic there.

see like this LT reversed/nullified the IG>incomplete IG >UN.

Originally posted by Nihilist
no offense but you seem to be using alot of A>B>C logic there.

see like this LT reversed/nullified the IG>incomplete IG >UN.

yeah i kno
but if MMs right and UN can erase all of MU then that mean it can erase LT too right? 🤨
so that mean Galactus can erase LT & all the rest? and so can Merlin? (if they shoot first & shoot quick 😛)

Originally posted by wannabe
Why would you say that?

GS indeed has some points ... and very simple ones at that:

1. Just because you can turn off or refocus a weapon (UN) with a powerful remote (IG), doesn't necessarily mean you're bulletproof. It only means you can avoid being damaged by the weapon easily.

LOL, the IG allowed him to easily control the Nullification power. It's stated that the "Ultimate" in Ultimate Nullifier means little when compared to the IG.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=437017&pagenumber=4

"Within the confines of what is, [b]A NEW SUPREME BEING STEPS FORTH"

"And A CHAMPION FAR FROM HIS HOME learns that THE WORD 'ULTIMATE' --

"...CARRIES LITTLE WEIGHT in this CURRENT CONTEST OF TITANS"

That contest included the 5 Cosmic Cubes about to create a duplicate universe.


2. Just because the President of the USA (Phoenix) didn't battle every other influential officer, businessman, scientist or politician (Abstracts) in a wrestling ring, doesn't change the fact that he's the most powerful man on earth.
Bluntly spoken: If someone can nuke a whole country (telekinetically rearrange a universe's atomic structure), it is pointless to argument “But that someone were never seen battling one of the local warlords and their bazookas one on one, so he's not as powerful as them."

Wow, there. You ignored that the IG was about to control the nullification energies of the UN and turn it on its user. But try to pass this argument involving Phoenix and telekensis on atoms.

Phoenix messed with one universe. Big deal.

An incomplete IG:
1. Was greater than the U.N. - manipulating the nullification energy
2. Greater than 5 Cosmic Cubes that created a universe - as Magus stated
3. Merged two universes

A complete IG:
1. Is second to the Living Tribunal, the only being to be about to stop it.
2. Beat the embodiment of the universe, death, galactus, and marvels top abstracts
3. Was caimed by the Goddess herself to be greater than the Cosmic Egg (30 Cosmic Cubes combined). 5 of those 30 Cosmic Cubes are the ones that belonged to Magus, who created a universe with them.

The Phoenix Force has numerous weak showings and few high end ones, not even comparable to an incomplete IG. Going up against a complete Infinity Gauntlet would be a stomping in the IG's favor. Think about it.

👆 as always friend.

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A Few members of the X-Men and Ultra Force (six in all)
are sent to battle the actual Phoenix Force (host-less) ... this is the real deal.

.................................

"The assembled Heroes are tired & battered,
the Phoenix
(no host) is reborn and fresh"

And they're still holding their own! 👆

The Six heroes beat (physically) the Phoenix Force (no host) into and through the Portal:

The Phoenix Force ends up displaced by Four Billion Years:

==============

(From the Official Marvel Universe Handbook 2005)

"the Heroes were able to drive the FORCE into another portal,
and it emerged Four Billion years in the Past
"

Confirmed Again in the 2007 Handbook Bios:

Thanos destroys WPotC.

is this IG vs Phoenix? 😂

Is the title hard to understand?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Is the title hard to understand?
very

Just say "Thanos wins". It's always the right answer.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Just say "Thanos wins". It's always the right answer.
👆