Does Bane have Orbalisks on his arms? Anyways, Bane probably takes this due to the fact that Orbalisks are very lightsaber resistent and cause they pump adrenaline into Bane he will never tire. And it would take a strong blow to cut through one of the Orbalisks, Ataru is light blows, and a light blow isn't going to cut through them.
Asajj Ventress may have been an Ataru practitioner based on her acrobatic performance in the arena on Rattatak in the first season of the Clone Wars cartoon series.
In Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, the Jedi Exile can learn Ataru from Master Vrook.
Known practitioners: Yoda (Yoda mastered all the forms), Qui-Gon Jinn, Darth Sidious (Palpatine trained in all of the forms), Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, Darth Revan, Quinlan Vos, Aayla Secura
wiki - lightsaber forms
thats so much bullshit, just cause someone doesn't agree with something, they say, "oh thats not a source!" Ok tell you what, since NOTHING contradicts it, why don't you provide a source saying that he didn't train in all forms? Its no different than ANY EU book, the people at Wiki don't sit there like, "hmm, lets see what we can make up today, hahahaa..." No they don't do that. So until something proves otherwise that he didn't, then he DID. no contradiction=canon.
Originally posted by darthsith19
wiki doesn't count unless you can get wiki's source for that.
References
Star Wars: Attack of the Clones The Visual Dictionary, "Lightsaber Combat" (page 62-63)
Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith The Visual Dictionary
^ "Much more than pure action, the lightsaber battles of this film are designed to advance the story and reveal the nature of the characters through physical movements in combat." [1] "I developed different styles for the characters, and gave each of them a flaw or a bonus. So with Obi, for instance, he's got a very business-like style--when he was younger he could border on the flashy and might twirl his lightsaber a bit, because he was taught by Qui-Gonn. Qui-Gonn was brash, that rubbed off on Obi and Obi then taught Anakin, who was way too old to learn anyway." "I think the style really worked well. The Jedi style of fighting is an amalgamation of all the great swordfighting styles. Melding them together is the difficult part--to move from a Kendo style to, say, Rapier requires a complete change in body and feet movement, and this must look effortless. The style moves seamlessly between the different disciplines, but remains technically correct throughout. It's unlike any other style of fighting and I think it's beautiful to watch." [2]
^ "Nick's goal in choreographing the action for Episode I was to create stunts that flow from the story. "You can't just think, 'I'm a stunt coordinator, I'm going to make a big stunt happen'," he says. "It's all about making it tie in nicely with the film so that you don't notice the stunts." Creating narrative through physical expression, Nick wrote each fight as an individual story that supports the overall structure of the movie. "All the fights have a beginning, a middle and an end," he says. "I worked hard to write them like a story."....No two sword masters have exactly the same style, and Nick has woven the subtleties of distinct identities into the choreography of the lightsaber battles. "It was important to me that each character in Episode I have a distinctive fighting style," he says. Some of this shading came from the classic Star Wars Trilogy." [3] "Q: Do you think about the characters involved when choreographing a fight scene? A: When we started on Phantom Menace, I set out certain styles and, particularly, faults for characters. Once you know the line of them, you know why they're going to do something."[4]
^ ""I figured that since the Jedi had chosen a lightsaber, they'd have to be really good with it," says Gillard. "So I took the essence of all the great sword fighting techniques, from kendo through saber, épée, and foil, and flowed them together."[5] "These lightsaber fights seem to fall into two categories: On the one hand, those strongly influenced by Asian martial arts experience, typically adapting Japanese kenjutsu and kendo, the familiar Filipino Arnis/Escrima, or the stylistic Chinese Opera kung fu clichés of non-stop twirling and obsessive spinning with extra wide exaggerated motion." [6]
^ "Seven forms of lightsaber combat have been developed since the foundation of the Jedi Order. Each represents a distinct approach or philosophy, and has its particular strengths. Jedi may specialize in dedication to a particular form..." pg 62 of Star Wars: Attack of the Clones The Visual Dictionary, "Lightsaber Combat" by David West Reynolds; ISBN 0-7894-8588-5
^ a b Dark Forces: Jedi Knight; see also the "The Dark Forces Saga, Part 1": "Kyle became the academy's foremost battlemaster, honing the skills of countless Jedi students like Jaden Korr, and stopping the dark side berserker Jeng Droga."
^ "Jedi Masters created Form I from ancient sword-fighting traditions, since the principles of blade combat remained much the same. The basics of attack, parry, body target zones, and the practice drills called velocities are all here.....Young Jedi still begin their training by learning Form I. After the younglings finish their training though they move on to whatever form theywant to learn." "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ a b c d e f g Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, The Cestus Deception, Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith novel, Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith The Visual Dictionary, Order 66: Destroy All Jedi
^ "The ultimate refinement of lightsaber-to-lightsaber combat became Form II, advancing the precision of blade manipulation to its finest possible degree and producing the greatest dueling masters the galaxy has ever seen.""The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ "Today Form II is an archaism studied by almost no one in the Jedi Order, because it is not relevant to current tactical situations, in which Jedi enemies rarely fight with lightsabers. Even with the resurgence of the Sith, confrontation of an enemy with a lightsaber is an exceedingly rare prospect for a Jedi, so they continue to focus on more practical Forms. Sith expecting to battle lightsaber-wielding Jedi, however, find Form II a powerful technique." "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ Star Wars Republic 72: Trackdown, Part 1
^ "The third great lightsaber discipline was first developed in response to the advancement of blaster technology in the galaxy." "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ "Form III maximizes defensive protection in a style characterized by tight, efficient movements that expose minimal target area compared to the relatively open style of some of the other Forms." "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ "Obi-Wan Kenobi takes up a dedication to Form III after the death of Qui-Gon Jinn (who favored Form IV), since it was apparent to Kenobi that Jinn's defense was insufficient against the Sith techniques of Darth Maul. True Form III masters are considered invincible. Even in his elder years, Kenobi remains a formidable Form III practitioner." "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ a b c "Yoda, with his deep emphasis on the Force in all things, is a Form IV master. Form IV was also the chosen discipline of Qui-Gon Jinn and the early choice of his apprentice Obi-Wan Kenobi.""The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ "Ordinarily Yoda walks with a slight limp, his ancient body wracked with arthritis and the normal infirmities of old age. In combat however, the diminutive Jedi Master possesses extraordinary strength and reflexes - entirely the result of focusing the Force through his physical body and not just his spirit as is his usual emphasis." "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ "As the Clone War begins, Anakin Skywalker dedicates himself to Form V in his increasingly blind quest for strength. As Darth Vader he will still be using Form V when he confronts Obi-Wan Kenobi and later Luke Skywalker." "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
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^ "During an era when Jedi were called upon to more actively maintain the peace in the galaxy, Form V arose alongside Form IV to address a need for greater power among the Jedi. Jedi Masters who felt that Form III could be too passive developed Form V. A Form III master might be undefeatable, but neither could he necessarily overcome his enemy. Form V focuses on strength and lightsaber attack moves. This Form exploits the ability of the lightsaber to block a blaster bolt and turns this defensive move into an offensive attack by deflecting the bolt deliberately towards an opponent. A dedication to the power and strength necessary to defeat an enemy characterizes the philosophy of Form V, which some Jedi describe by the maxim "peace through superior firepower."" "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ a b "In the time of Palpatine's Chancellorship, Form VI is the current standard in Jedi lightsaber training. This Form balances the emphases of other Forms with overall moderation, in keeping with the Jedi quest to achieve true harmony and justice without resorting to the rule of power. It is considered the "diplomat's Form" because it is less intensive in its demands than the other disciplines, allowing Jedi to spend more time developing their skills in perception, political strategy, and negotiation........In an increasingly dangerous galaxy, the "diplomat's Form" might not be enough against serious combat dangers. All the Form VI Jedi Knights who fight on Geonosis die in the arena battle." "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
^ a b "Another uncommon form called Niman is a style often taught in the Jedi Order but rarely mastered by more than a few Jedi each generation." pg 2 of the Hero's Guide Star Wars RPG source book, web supplement [7]
^ "Only high-level masters of multiple Forms can achieve and control the ultimate descipline known as Form VII. This is the most difficult and demanding of all Forms, but it can eventually lead to fantastic power and skill. Form VII employs bold, direct movements, more open and kinetic than Form V but not so elaborate in appearance as Form IV." "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ "Form VII master Mace Windu fights alongside Form III practitioner Obi-Wan Kenobi in the Battle of Geonosis. This spiritually dangerous regimen cuts perilously close to the Sith intensity of focus on physical combat ability. Mace Windu is one of the only current practitioners of Form VII." "The Seven Forms of Lightsaber Combat", Star Wars Insider, #62, by David West Reynolds
^ a b "the style often led to lightsaber duels that spanned large amounts of terrain as they ran their course." pg 2 of the Hero's Guide Star Wars RPG source book, web supplement [8]
^ "The style encompasses everything from quick, darting movements to smooth tumbles and strikes that arc towards the vital areas of an opponent's body." pg 2 of the Hero's Guide Star Wars RPG source book, web supplement [9]
^ a b Page 438, Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith by Matthew Stover, ISBN 0-34-542883-8
^ "He had his left hand on the hilt fairly close to the shimmering blade, but the blade itself extended out and down from the lower edge of his hand toward the ground. His right hand rode the lightsaber's pommel. Holding the blade out away from his body, with his right hand at the level of his chin, he could waggle the blade back and forth in a triangle of coverage that would ward him well. This triangle style- the thought suddenly came to me like a long lost memory- favored a man who was quick, and would combine sweeping strikes at my legs with a flick of the wrist cut that would open me from groin to chin." pg 336 of the paperback edition of I, Jedi.
^ While I, Jedi was written long before the prequels and associated material laid down the principles of lightsaber combat, Tyris has been definitively established as being a Shien practitioner in the Hero's Guide web supplement[10], which also gave the prècis this article draws upon.
^ Lightdaggers appear multiple times, independently. In the Expanded Universe, the first appearance was an invention by Luke Skywalker which countered Lumiya's lightwhip, as depicted in the comic book series Marvel Star Wars, issue 96: "Duel With a Dark Lady". When Sora Bulq fell to the Dark side, he augmented his mastery of Vaapad with a lightdagger, as seen in Jedi: Mace Windu and Jedi: Count Dooku. Wookieepedia suggests that Yoda's lightsaber may be small enough to be a lightdagger in its own right. See also "The Dark Forces Saga, Part 4: Of the Crudest Matter" which mentions that "A popular variant of Jar'Kai involves the combination of one lightsaber and one short saber. This method was employed by the Weequay Jedi Master Sora Bulq in combat against Mace Windu, as well as by Luke Skywalker when faced with the Sith lightwhip of the Dark Lady Lumiya."
^ "Jar'Kai is the style's oldest name, going back to the Yovshin Swordsmen of the Atrisian Empire, who wielded a dueling sword in each hand, dubbing the weapons "Jar'Kai" after the Kitel Phard city where they were first crafted. A similar style was practiced by the Royale Macheteros, the elite guard of the Kashi Mer monarchy. When the technique was then co-opted by soldiers of the Legions of Lettow, they called the style Niman after the dual triumvirate of Kashi gods." "The Dark Forces Saga, Part 4: Of the Crudest Matter"
^ a b Shatterpoint by Matthew Stover
^ "I would describe myself as having been an average pupil. I did not excel at the combat forms. Master Yoda once joked that I was a master of Form Zero -- of wielding the lightsaber without igniting it. Please, feel free to laugh, because there was some small laughter when the Master said this. But you must remember -- he told us all this, and I tell it to you now -- that Form Zero is the truest form of wielding a lightsaber. If you cannot wield a lightsaber without igniting it, then you should consider whether you are worthy to wield it at all. I do not doubt that there are many present -- some Padawans included -- who could easily best me, were we to spar with lightsabers. Being able to defeat another being is insignificant, though, unless you can understand that being, and accept that if the situation were different, he might be as completely justified in killing you as you feel in killing him. You must understand when to ignite and when to ignore. That is Form Zero" Felanil Baaks, Jedi Artisan - Living Force campaign
^ "Fightsaber: Jedi Lightsaber Combat", 10 pg article in Star Wars Insider 62.
^ "Kam's instruction can't be faulted at all in this regard because he taught us well the three rings of defense. The outermost ring consisted of four guard positions: upper right, upper left, lower right and lower left. The lightsaber's hilt would end up wide of the body, with the hip coming back toward the middle to pick up the grand sweeping blows that are very powerful, but also take longer to deliver. The middle ring also involved four guard positions.....The inner ring involved parries instead of blocks and was proof against lunging attacks...The inner ring was the last line of defense, dangerous to be defending from, and dangerous to be attacking from." pg. 98-99 of the paperback edition of I, Jedi.
^ "He explains that having chosen such a short-range weapon to use against blasters, the Jedi would have to be well skilled in all manners of fighting and defending themselves. Combining a variety of disciplines from various fencing styles to martial arts "with a touch of tennis and tree chopping," he created the distinctive 'Jedi Style' seen in the Episode I lightsaber battles." Episode I Video: Prime of the Jedi -(part of the "Making Episode I" series).
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theres your refferences...feel free to check them out to debunk what i said.
lightsaber battle? hmm, doesnt the orbalisk protect bane from lightsabers? even his head is covered as shown to us in the negtc and legacy issus 5.
idk, there are some parts exposed and i dont even know what style bane uses, i assume sidious still uses ataru by the way he jumps and does those acrobatic moves on luke in DE