Orbalisk Bane versus DE Sidious, lightsbaer battle

Originally posted by Lightsnake
I love how you guys continue to make stuff up...where're you getting this from Kadesh?

And common sense and logical deduction also works to Palp's mastery. And to canon as well, since that's what thosequotes are.

For the record, Palp at his strongest still tops the Ancients. Sorry

Make shit up? Is that why he learned from the ancients? Is that why he summoned them? Is that why he went to Korriban because he thought they could heal his dying body? Wow lightsnake, you seem to continue working against logic.

Hahaha wrong, possiblities that ragnos might be above sidious, the whole galaxy trembled in fear above him
And according to the kotor characters. onw of them even said "exar kuns presence made the ground tremble" and many of them even state exar might have been the strongest sith lord ever

whole galaxy? When did the whole galaxy ever know Ragnos? And last I saw, Exar's power's gone down a bit in favor of Revan and Bane...plus we saw him walk. No ground trembling.

Moreover, Sexy, did you forget the body couldn't be saved and Palp was too desperate for anything else? I can go to a doctor for help. Doesn't mean he's stronger than me. He learned from the Ancients and by DE he surpassed them. That simple

Now stop being an abrasive dick, I've put up with it long enough

Originally posted by Kadesh
Hahaha wrong, possiblities that ragnos might be above sidious, the whole galaxy trembled in fear above him
And according to the kotor characters. onw of them even said "exar kuns presence made the ground tremble" and many of them even state exar might have been the strongest sith lord ever

I still call bullshit on this "Kun made the ground shake" nonsense. And I don't particularly find fallible 3rd party characters as credible.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
whole galaxy? When did the whole galaxy ever know Ragnos? And last I saw, Exar's power's gone down a bit in favor of Revan and Bane...plus we saw him walk. No ground trembling.

Moreover, Sexy, did you forget the body couldn't be saved and Palp was too desperate for anything else? I can go to a doctor for help. Doesn't mean he's stronger than me. He learned from the Ancients and by DE he surpassed them. That simple

Now stop being an abrasive dick, I've put up with it long enough

Abrasive dick? You're the one bitching and crying like a schoolgirl when your bullshit argument full of nonsensical quotes fail. It just makes me laugh how sad it is. And again, he learned from the ancients and respected them, this much is clear. Otherwise he wouldn't have summoned them back and then gone to Korriban. Quit crying.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
whole galaxy? When did the whole galaxy ever know Ragnos? And last I saw, Exar's power's gone down a bit in favor of Revan and Bane...plus we saw him walk. No ground trembling.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Moreover, Sexy, did you forget the body couldn't be saved and Palp was too desperate for anything else? I can go to a doctor for help. Doesn't mean he's stronger than me. He learned from the Ancients and by DE he surpassed them. That simple
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Originally posted by Kadesh
1) no sith dared to challenge ragnos
2) He didnt tremble the gound idiot, it was a figure of speech
3) exar is still above revan because dorak was well aware of how powerul revan is and he knew that exar is far mroe dangerous and stronger, even jolee knew

He could drain people to sustain his body abit longer, as nihilus is doing

I highly doubt Kun is more powerful than Revan after reading POD.

Originally posted by Kadesh
1) no sith dared to challenge ragnos
2) He didnt tremble the gound idiot, it was a figure of speech
3) exar is still above revan because dorak was well aware of how powerul revan is and he knew that exar is far mroe dangerous and stronger, even jolee knew

He could drain people to sustain his body abit longer, as nihilus is doing

Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. Like, Oh my God. No Sith dared to challenge Palp, Exar or Bane either
2. Then why use it?
3. Did the game put Exar above Revan? Did Dorak say "Well, Revan was deadly, but Exar was even stronger!"
No? Ok

Originally posted by Lightsnake
You mean when even getting angry might've killed him on the spot? That's brillaint [/B]

1. Ah, and apparently simus challenge Bane
2. Actually, it's hyperbole, nothing more.
3. When did they put Exar above Revan at ALL?

and you need anger to use the freaking Dark Side. any use of the Force was a potential death to Palpatine. After using Force Lightning, he aged about forty years in an instant

Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. Ah, and apparently simus challenge Bane
2. Actually, it's hyperbole, nothing more.
3. When did they put Exar above Revan at ALL?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
and you need anger to use the freaking Dark Side. any use of the Force was a potential death to Palpatine. After using Force Lightning, he aged about forty years in an instant [/B]

And @DS i personally put exar above revan. But honestly BOTH had done very amazing things, Id say revan = exar
Agreeable? then at least i wont babble like an idiot again

1. *Challenged Ragnos.
2. Sure. We saw Exar walk. No ground shaking.
3. When were those treasured amulets used on force users, hm? When was it said Exar was stronger than Revan? Was it said or not?

And you need rage to power the Dark Side. I wasn't aware you were privy to Vader's emotions, given that mask

Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. *Challenged Ragnos.
2. Sure. We saw Exar walk. No ground shaking.
3. When were those treasured amulets used on force users, hm? When was it said Exar was stronger than Revan? Was it said or not?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
And you need rage to power the Dark Side. I wasn't aware you were privy to Vader's emotions, given that mask [/B]

1. PROVE IT!
2. And that's what we call hyperbole...
3. A Massassi is not a JEdi Master, try again. Since when did they have any knowledge on the amulets.

And it just might kill him if he USED THE FORCE. What makes you think he DIDN'T try? He got a lot older by the time he was at Korriban

Apparently you people can't seem to realise that the Ancients have jackshit evidence on them, until then Sidious IS the top dog, he has shown one powerful grip of the dark side and as lightsnake said the Embodiement (Spelling) of the Dark Side.

Ragnos MAY have been above him, but there is no way ANYONE could prove that.

Kun? What's all this nonsense? He was a lightsaber prodigy and that's about all we see of him.

So he can make the ground shake, i doubt that even if someone could come up with a reliable source its pure hyperbole and for all you know ANY powerful force user is capable of replicating this "feat" which doesn't do anything at all..

Originally posted by Kadesh
1. at that time before simus, no 1 knew who the hell ragnos was

Originally posted by Kadesh
2. Idiot, its a figure of speech to show the magnitude of his power.
people stop getting mixed up, he didnt shake the ground

What kinda logic is that? Luke Skywalker who is definitely stronger than Kun has NEVER been shown to have been able to "shake the ground" i see no reason as to why that would mean anything except Kun was one powerful Force User. Oh and don't insult, it doesnt help your argument.

Originally posted by Kadesh
3.Masassi were connected to the force, they had knowledge on it and how would a blast be defended? And it has been proven in DLOTS that it can be used to blow up stars

Oh ye because Sadow using a SHIP to do that means he can do it without one...excellent logic, why dont you go and provide the proof? Masassi < Jedi Masters

Originally posted by Kadesh
Well to make the attack very very powerful yes, all im saying palpatine could do it with minimal anger, it should at least work

Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. PROVE IT!
2. And that's what we call hyperbole...
3. A Massassi is not a JEdi Master, try again. Since when did they have any knowledge on the amulets.

1. We didn't SEE Ragnos fight at all, we've never seen Ragnos ALIVE. And Simus wasn't the previous Dark Lord, he was a contender to the throne.
2. Falliable 3rd party info =/= canon out of universe quotations
3. Strongly connected? Prove up. they were primitives like the Ysanna...and Naga'd been dead for 600 years. They were SLAVES, why teach THEM a damn thing.
Naga was waiting for an apprentice and he got that from Nadd, who killed him because Naga wouldn't teach him everything...oh, and Nadd used his SHIP to blow up the star. Read Fall of the Sith Empire because that's a firsthand account

Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. We didn't SEE Ragnos fight at all, we've never seen Ragnos ALIVE. And Simus wasn't the previous Dark Lord, he was a contender to the throne.
2. Falliable 3rd party info =/= canon out of universe quotations
3. Strongly connected? Prove up. they were primitives like the Ysanna...and Naga'd been dead for 600 years. They were SLAVES, why teach THEM a damn thing.
Naga was waiting for an apprentice and he got that from Nadd, who killed him because Naga wouldn't teach him everything...oh, and Nadd used his SHIP to blow up the star. Read Fall of the Sith Empire because that's a firsthand account

2.Has yet to be proven as fishy,janus,DS, borbarad,IKC and illustrious said, you got your ass handed many times to you on this one

3.Naga didnt teach them anything, but they oberved him. they were intelligent, And again naga used his amulte to blow up the star as the holocron showed in DLOTS TOTJ

1. WHAT? What the hell are you talking about? There's not a Sith that even RESEMBLES him when Ragnos is talking about the Empire's FOUNDING! Naga would've been Dark Lord if he killed Ludo in the succesion duel-how Ragnos got to be DLOTS and people knew who he was...I doubt nobodies contend for the crown.
2. Yes, yes, keep dreaming. You even know what hyperbole is?
3. They were primitives and not a single one was alive when Naga died, it'd been six hundred years!

And once more: In DLOTS, Naga is shown as a HUMAN and that's a holocron account....we actually SEE WHAT HAPPENS in Fall of the Sith Empire

Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. WHAT? What the hell are you talking about? There's not a Sith that even RESEMBLES him when Ragnos is talking about the Empire's FOUNDING! Naga would've been Dark Lord if he killed Ludo in the succesion duel-how Ragnos got to be DLOTS and people knew who he was...I doubt nobodies contend for the crown.
2. Yes, yes, keep dreaming. You even know what hyperbole is?
3. They were primitives and not a single one was alive when Naga died, it'd been six hundred years!

And once more: In DLOTS, Naga is shown as a HUMAN and that's a holocron account....we actually SEE WHAT HAPPENS in Fall of the Sith Empire

1.) just what the hell are you talking about? this is about ragnos not naga
2. i dont mind dreaming, you should wake up
3.try again, there were massassi when exar arrived

once more in DLOTS
it was the holocron who showed naga using the amulet to trigger a supernova. it was recorded and already had happened, now shut up