I was reading somewhere i dont remeber where but it was about the AWE trailer which unfortunately wont come out till next year, but it said if i remeber correctly that will throws elizabeths arm away, Barbossa finds out that Jack loves elizabeth and Grant sparrow and boot strap bill work together to save their sons Will and Jack. Elizabeth throws the compass into the ocean.
Now about elizabeth throwing the compass into the ocean wouldn't there be a reason? we all know she has feelings for Jack but she deny's it and still thinking she loves Will. *spoiler* incase none of ya know but Jack sells Elizabeth to Sao Feng so when she see's Jack again she is furious with him and maybe along the lines Jack gives her the compass and for her unsatisfaction it still points to Jack and so she throws it overboard. so maybe this will end as Elizabeth finally confesses 'bout the compass pointing towards Jack. also i think Will and jack will fight to death for elizabeths heart so one of them backs out to make her happy which i think is Will and he decided to sacrifice everything and stabs the heart of davy Jones which kills him and davy and Jack is all alone with the distout elizabeth and he tells her he loves her and then it ends with j/l
l.o.l. but thats my threory on whats goin to happen
If Will dies, Elizabeth will follow right behind, without hesitation, and if Elizabeth dies, Will won't survive, because their bond is far deeper than some attraction and a hot kiss. They are made for each other, they are the other halves of each other's soul. Without one, the other will not exist. [/B][/QUOTE]
I won't argue that if Elizabeth dies, Will would follow right behind her. That's in his nature, and that is the soul of his love for her. He's said before that he'd die for her and I still believe that despite all that has happened between them, that still holds true.
As to Elizabeth following behind Will, I tend to disagree, and not because I ship J/E. It is not in the nature of her character to follow blindly. If she questions society, her father, the other men around her who are set to lead, I don't see her blindly following Will to her emminent death without first asking why, or how it was that he died. I think the events at the end of DMC showed us one very important thing about Elizabeth: that she's capable of separating emotional ties to a person if it is in her best interest of herself and others to survive.
I can see where the comparison of Romeo and Juliet would come from in relation to W/E but I think that though Will is more like Romeo than not, Elizabeth is no Juliet.
[QUOTE=7674448]Originally posted by LovelyOne
[B]Surreal you want a wee bit of the Salmon script thats not J/E, W/E. N/E J/W?..here: (I'm only posting this bit openly cuz I used it as a quote in my sig)
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WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!
That's so serious and intense! I like it muy much. Beckett is so fiendishly evil.
You didn't know Beckett is evil? 😉 It's one of the things I love most about him!
As for Elizabeth, again, I disagree. When it comes to Will, I don't think she cares. She will do whatever, anything, to be with him and to keep him safe. If he died, (especially if he ended up as Davy Jones),I don't think she would just blindly be killing herself...but I think she has already weighed the options, and life without Will isn't something she would want.
Even if Will dies in the next film and she does not die along with him, I don't think she will end up with Jack. She loves Will, enough to kill for him. As I have said, Will and Elizabeth will do anything for the other.
Jack will do anything for Elizabeth remember that^ the ending showed us this...seems like Liz is willing to give up a happy ever after with Will in order to do anything for Jack by the end too...she's sending him and herself into danger in order to get Jack back
thats not the reason why she killed Jack..there are obviously other things going on with her surreal44 when it comes to why she did what she did...firstly consider how she is very much like Jack..In situations when she is being dishonest or trying to cover up emotions...she yaks and yaks on like no tomorrow...she's lying there about why she's doing what she's doing..Jack even giggles a wee bit because its just what he does in situations when he's being dishonest about what he's really doing.
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LOL^^ that smiley pokin out lke that
I don't think Elizabeth would kill herself for anyone much less the Unuich. She'd kill some one else {Jack} for someone she is SUPPOSED TO LOVE. But this doesn't mean she does love him. Honestly, the compass.
What is the whole point of the compass? It points to what you want in the WORLD, and it pointed to Jack more than once while resting in Elizabeth's hands. Not everything Elizabeth does is for Will, though most of the things Will does is for Elizabeth.
He needs to get a hobby. Lol.
Elizabeth isn't just a woman. She isnt' just a puzzle piece that's only purpose in life is to fit into the picture of a man. She's a human being, she's selfish, she's disloyal, she's dishonest and coniving. Decietful and cunning, witty and brave.
She's a pirate.
Will is an honest man, he doesn't lie or cheat or kill or steal. He's a hard worker and he doesn't much like the wind in his face, whipping his hair. He wants a normal life, to settle in a town and raise a family, he wants a wife. To make Lizzie a wife, the woman whom bares him his children.
He's not a pirate.
There's a difference between his blood and his actions. He may have a pirate father, a man whom has sailed the seas and seen all there is to see, but that doesn't mean he will be that man as well.
He's a different man and a different person. His blood may have something to do in his life, but in this case, the only purpose it serves is running through his viens.
Will treats Elizabeth like a porcline doll, I've said this millions of times, he only wants to shine her up and let the world see her in his little cupboard. What do we see when in the begining of DMC? A poor, disheveled Lizzie wearing another one of those tight corsets, and rain soakes the wedding dress as she sits there alone.
Elizabeth could fight with Jack, cut him, burn him, stab him but he will always fight back. If she told Will to shut up and find another woman, what would he do? He'd think she wants him gone and just put his tail between his legs and scamper off before he bursts into tears. But Jack would stay there, and he'd question her, fight with her and make her love him again.
See the difference?
Two people like this can't work out. Sure opposites attract, but when the woman in the relationship wears the pants...really...would that work?
No.
I have no doubt that Will would do anything for Elizabeth, but I don't think Elizabeth is so one dimentional that all she has in her life is the priority to look after her 'man'. Cause we already know she's not one of those corset wearing, prim and proper ladies stuck in their drawing rooms all day. Right?
So why would the pirate at heart give up her freedom for a man she's doubting loving? Guilt is the only reason I see.
So yes, I believe her and Will might end up together in AWE, but purley because of guilt.
Guilt.
Ok, I actually agree a little in that I think she will marry Will, but that it won't entirely be her choice. The way things are set up in the Leaked script, it almost seems as she doesn't have any other option. Will has made it so that even though she denies that there is nothing between her and Jack (debatable) he still doesn't believe her. Will is still determined to murder Jack despite the fact that he's essentially guiltless. The only way she can prevent Will from doing something he will regret, and in a way, save Jack's life, is to marry Will.
It's actions versus words, which is a huge theme with Jack and it can be argued with Will as well.
Originally posted by savvysparrowthats true i think Will is getting possessive of Elizabeth especially after seeing the kiss but i also think if Elizabeth shows she loves Jack He will step down because he wants her to be happy likewise with jack if he really loves her he will step down and let her go with Will because it will make her happy but also since Jack died he may want to live his life the best he can and take her for his happiness. He is after all a pirate and a little selfish
Ok, I actually agree a little in that I think she will marry Will, but that it won't entirely be her choice. The way things are set up in the Leaked script, it almost seems as she doesn't have any other option. Will has made it so that even though she denies that there is nothing between her and Jack (debatable) he still doesn't believe her. Will is still determined to murder Jack despite the fact that he's essentially guiltless. The only way she can prevent Will from doing something he will regret, and in a way, save Jack's life, is to marry Will.It's actions versus words, which is a huge theme with Jack and it can be argued with Will as well.
Since when does Will treat Elizabeth like a porcelain doll? Give me one instance. I bet the only thing you'll be able to come up with is the bit where he tells Elizabeth to guard the chest, and that isn't treating her like something fragile at all. It speaks of confidence in her ability to keep the chest safe while he fights for the key.
I don't think Elizabeth is stupid enough to kill a person for someone she THINKS she loves. She knows what she wants and is determined to get it. That's why she kissed Jack; to satisfy her selfish curiosity on what it would be like to kiss him, even as she prepares to betray him.
I also see no evidence that Will only wants Elizabeth to have his children, nor that he wants a simple, married life. If anything, the leaked script points out how Will would not simply let Elizabeth out of his life...especially if he feels that Jack doesn't deserve her.
There is nothing one dimensional about doing anything for the love of your life...in fact, it brings up conflict and the opportunity for growth and development, as it has for both Elizabeth and Will. Just because you see no value in Will doesn't mean that TnT don't. They didn't write Will as a mistake...to insinuate anything else is an insult to them.
she looks as pasty as one when in his presence 😛
and yes someone would kill a man if they wer SO trhreatened by that man and the feelings he invokes in her.
if Liz was really SO confident that she loved will..she wouldnt have even needed to make a statement to herself and him:
"I can live without you Jack"
have you never heard of melodrama?
PotC is basically that when it comes to Love stories..
If she didnt "want" Jack she need never have felt the pressure to remove him
you can see how scared she gets when he mentions not loving his pearl anymore..he's just come back to save her life.. and the feelings she has for him now that Will is back around her.
ok, this doesnt have anything to do with what you've said about the new scripts and stuff, and it actually goes back to the extra things on the dvd, but i thought i would post it anyway🙂
i was watching this photo thing that the producer did just because he didnt have much to do and liked photography, but he was mentioning different element type things that give the movie depth and stuff in the movie, and when he said romance it showed a picture he had taken of j/l, and nothing of w/l throughout the entire thing