Satan - The Prince of Darkness

*["...christianity teaches that the word of god is INFALLIBLE -- but not everyone who calls themselves a christian is one..."]

***True.

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*["...I've been a CHRISTIAN ALL OF MY LIFE..."]

***NOT TRUE...you are a BORN sinner...and were conceived IN sin...for King David said: "Behold, I was shapen in INIQUITY; and IN SIN did my mother CONCEIVE me" [Psalm 51:5]. Unless you have been born a SECOND time [John 3:3]...you are STILL an UNSAVED sinner.

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*["...but if I DONT BELEIF IN CHRIST SACRIFICE, AND If I DONT LOVINGLY FOLLOW HIS WORd, then im not considered A CHRISTIAN."]

***You can believe...but have you TRUSTED in what He accomplished for you at Calvary. If you have a disease and believe the doctor can cure your disease...it does you no good. It will only do you good if you go to the doctor in faith believing and put your life in his hands. If that is what you have done then you are saved...if not, your belief avails you NOTHING.

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*["according to the bible those who follow the LAW as referenced within the bible..do not become CHRISTIANS unless they believe in Jesus's sacrifice..."]

***The Law is the schoolmaster that brings men to Christ...for by it is the knowledge of sin. Man will never accept the grace of God till they tremble before a just and holy law. The Lord Jesus Christ came NOT to abolish the Law...but to FULFILL it [Matthew 5:17]. We are not now under the Law for the Lord Jesus FULFILLED it for us. We are now under the GRACE of God and are SAVED by GRACE [i.e., unmerited FAVOR] of God: "For by GRACE are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God Not of works, lest any man should boast" [Ephesians 2:8-9].

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*["and those who have never heard of the LAW...become christians ONLY by lovingly following it within their lives."]

***That is an out-right LIE! NO ONE can keep the Law...for if you only break one tenet of the Law...you are guilty of the WHOLE Law. It was the Lord Jesus Christ who kept the WHOLE Law...for He was the SINLESS Lamb of God and only He could keep it. He FULFILLED the Law for us [Matthew 5:17]...we are no longer under the Law. The Law was NOT meant to save anyone...it's function was only to make sin known to us.

Marchello

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But the people you describe going to heaven would all be Christians

***That is true. However, NO ONE [even Christians] "deserve" to go to heaven...the operating word here is "deserve." It is ONLY by His GRACE [i.e., UNMERITED FAVOR] that we go to heaven.

Marchello

Originally posted by Marchello
***That is true. However, NO ONE [even Christians] "deserve" to go to heaven...the operating word here is "deserve." It is ONLY by His GRACE [i.e., UNMERITED FAVOR] that we go to heaven.

Marchello

You and 2 billion other people have a twisted view on heaven.

Originally posted by Marchello
***That is true. However, NO ONE [even Christians] "deserve" to go to heaven...the operating word here is "deserve." It is ONLY by His GRACE [i.e., UNMERITED FAVOR] that we go to heaven.

Marchello

WHAT POOR LOGIC AND invalid pathetic MISREPRESENTATION IMATATION..

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EVERYONE IN HEAVEN WILL BE A CHRISTIAN DUDE!! lol..their is NO WAY 4 ANYONE to enter the KINGDOM of HEAVAN WITHOUT SOME form of ACCEPTANCE IN CHRIST..(by LOVING fullfillment of the LAW FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER READ HEARD OF THE SCRIPTURES or CHRIST) or by loving FAITH IN CHRISTS SACRAFICE..

nICE ATTEMPT TO CONFUSE THE VALIDITY

nOT

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Originally posted by YO_IMURBRO
WHAT POOR LOGIC AND invalid pathetic MISREPRESENTATION IMATATION..

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EVERYONE IN HEAVEN WILL BE A CHRISTIAN DUDE!! lol..their is NO WAY 4 ANYONE to enter the KINGDOM of HEAVAN WITHOUT SOME form of ACCEPTANCE IN CHRIST..(by LOVING fullfillment of the LAW FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER READ HEARD OF THE SCRIPTURES or CHRIST) or by loving FAITH IN CHRISTS SACRAFICE..

nICE ATTEMPT TO CONFUSE THE VALIDITY

[b]nOT

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[u]PWNED[u]

Originally posted by YO_IMURBRO
WHAT POOR LOGIC AND invalid pathetic MISREPRESENTATION IMATATION..

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EVERYONE IN HEAVEN WILL BE A CHRISTIAN DUDE!! lol..their is NO WAY 4 ANYONE to enter the KINGDOM of HEAVAN WITHOUT SOME form of ACCEPTANCE IN CHRIST..(by LOVING fullfillment of the LAW FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER READ HEARD OF THE SCRIPTURES or CHRIST) or by loving FAITH IN CHRISTS SACRAFICE..

nICE ATTEMPT TO CONFUSE THE VALIDITY

[b]nOT

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You believe in a myth. Heaven is not a place you go when you die.

Originally posted by YO_IMURBRO
WHAT POOR LOGIC AND invalid pathetic MISREPRESENTATION IMATATION..

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EVERYONE IN HEAVEN WILL BE A CHRISTIAN DUDE!! lol..their is NO WAY 4 ANYONE to enter the KINGDOM of HEAVAN WITHOUT SOME form of ACCEPTANCE IN CHRIST..(by LOVING fullfillment of the LAW FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER READ HEARD OF THE SCRIPTURES or CHRIST) or by loving FAITH IN CHRISTS SACRAFICE..

nICE ATTEMPT TO CONFUSE THE VALIDITY

[b]nOT

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Okay..let me break this down a bit.

So basically what you're trying to say is:

a) Everyone who faithfully accepts the loving nature of Christ's sacrifice is a Christian.

b) Everyone who lovingly fulfills the law as referenced in the bible..who has never been formally taught the law or taught about Christ, is a a Christian as well.

That sounds like a loving god to me! Man does he make some loving provisions for everybody or what? Why wouldn't anyone want to follow such a loving God YoBro? What's your opinion on this?

Originally posted by Thundar
Okay..let me break this down a bit.

So basically what you're trying to say is:

a) Everyone who faithfully accepts the loving nature of Christ's sacrifice is a Christian.

b) Everyone who lovingly fulfills the law as referenced in the bible..who has never been formally taught the law or taught about Christ, is a a Christian as well.

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DAMB DUDE..FINALLY SUMONE FINALLY UNDERSTANDS IT!!

but DONT FORGET YOU gotta haVE [b]WORKS TO GO ALONG WITH THE FAITH OR THE FULLMENT OF THE LAW..TEH WORKS ARE DONE THROUGH you BY THE MESSENGER, OR THE HOLY SPIRT.

Originally posted by Thundar
That sounds like a loving god to me! Man does he make some loving provisions for everybody or what? Why wouldn't anyone want to follow such a loving God YoBro? What's your opinion on this?

CAN u say ARSEHOLE boys and girls...😉

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THAT'S JUZ MY PINION THOUGH..DONT TAKE IT AS FACT..

Originally posted by Thundar
...Why wouldn't anyone want to follow such a loving God YoBro? What's your opinion on this?

Because the myth that you have put forth above leads to suffering, and suffering = evil.

He's a sock.

Originally posted by FeceMan
He's a sock.

A sock of who?

Originally posted by YO_IMURBRO
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DAMB DUDE..FINALLY SUMONE FINALLY UNDERSTANDS IT!!

but DONT FORGET YOU gotta haVE WORKS TO GO ALONG WITH THE FAITH OR THE FULLMENT OF THE LAW..TEH WORKS ARE DONE THROUGH you BY THE MESSENGER, OR THE HOLY SPIRT.

Glad I could be of assistance. Here's the exact verse you're speaking of.

James 2:20
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Originally posted by YO_IMURBRO
CAN u say ARSEHOLE boys and girls...

THAT'S JUZ MY PINION THOUGH..DONT TAKE IT AS FACT..

Indeed. I know you're joking and being cynical, but you might want to settle down a bit with the language.

Originally posted by Thundar

Indeed. I know you're joking and being cynical, but you might want to settle down a bit with the language.

No allow him to continue (conflict will amuse Haruhi, The One True God)

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
A sock of who?

Originally posted by FeceMan
Of whom, and I would say he's whob.

I wrote "A sock of who?" because it sounds like a Japanese word. Get a sense of humor. 🙄

"But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most, our one fellow and brother who most needed a friend yet had not a single one, the one sinner among us all who had the highest and clearest right to every Christian's daily and nightly prayers, for the plain and unassailable reason that his was the first and greatest need, he being among sinners the supremest?"—Mark Twain

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most, our one fellow and brother who most needed a friend yet had not a single one, the one sinner among us all who had the highest and clearest right to every Christian's daily and nightly prayers, for the plain and unassailable reason that his was the first and greatest need, he being among sinners the supremest?"—Mark Twain

awsome

*["WHAT POOR LOGIC AND invalid pathetic MISREPRESENTATION IMATATION..."]

***I don't deal in humanistic "logic"...I deal only with what the Scriptures dictate. It is people like you who deal in secular "logic"which misrepresents the Word of God...and "twists" it to feed their view of what it represents...at the expense of the truth.

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*["EVERYONE IN HEAVEN WILL BE A CHRISTIAN DUDE!!..."]

*** Correct...but NOT because they "deserve" it...they will only go there because of the GRACE [i.e., UNMERITED favor] of God: "For by GRACE are ye SAVED through FAITH; and that NOT of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God: NOT of WORKS, lest any man should boast" [Ephesians 2:8,9]. That is FACT because the Scriptures say so...it is the INTERPRETATION that the Scriptures give...and that's the name of that tune...DUDE!

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*["...their is NO WAY 4 ANYONE to enter the KINGDOM of HEAVAN WITHOUT SOME form of ACCEPTANCE IN CHRIST..."]

***El WRONGO DUDE!...it CANNOT be with "some" form of acceptance...it MUST be "total" ACCEPTANCE "of" Christ and the Salvation that He wrought for us at Calvary...by being our SUBSTITUTE on the cross...and taking our punishment for OUR sins upon Himself..."for He hath made Him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that WE might be made the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God IN Him" [2 Corinthians 5:21].

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*["...(by LOVING fullfillment of the LAW FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER READ HEARD OF THE SCRIPTURES or CHRIST)..."]

***El WRONGO DUDE! Jesus said He would fulfill the Law by obeying it PERFECTLY...and would fulfill the prophets' predictions of the Messiah and His kingdom. But the responsibility of the people was made clear. The RIGHTEOUSNESS they were seeking...that of the PHARISEES and the teachers of the LAW...was INSUFFICIENT for ENTRANCE into the KINGDOM Jesus was OFFERING. The RIGHTEOUSNESS He [Jesus] DEMANDED was NOT external...it was a true INNER RIGHTEOUSNESS based on FAITH in God's WORD [Romans 3:21-22].

Jesus rejected the traditions of the Pharisees [Matthew 5:21-48] and their practices [Matthew 6:1-7:6]. Six times He said, "You have heard that it was said...But I tell you" [5:21-22, 27-28, 31-32, 33-34, 38-39, 43-44]. These words make it clear that Jesus was presenting (a)what the Pharisees and teachers of the LAW were saying to the people...and, by CONTRAST, (b)what God's TRUE INTENT of the LAW was. This spelled out His statement [Matthew 5:20]...to wit: "For I say unto you, that EXCEPT your RIGHTEOUSNESS shall EXCEED the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the SCRIBES and PHARISEES, ye shall in NO CASE enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN" [Matthew 5:20].

BOTTOM-LINE: You and your fellow PHARISAIC brothers' righteousness is NOT sufficient enough to gain entrance into Christ's coming Kingdom...your righteousness is as FILTHY RAGS before my RIGHTEOUS God...Jesus Christ [Isaiah 64:6].

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*["...or by loving FAITH IN CHRISTS SACRAFICE..."]

***El WRONGO DUDE...there is NO "or"...it is ONLY by the SACRIFICE of the Lord Jesus Christ that we receive God's mercy for the forgiveness of our sins and His RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Marchello

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
"But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most, our one fellow and brother who most needed a friend yet had not a single one, the one sinner among us all who had the highest and clearest right to every Christian's daily and nightly prayers, for the plain and unassailable reason that his was the first and greatest need, he being among sinners the supremest?"—Mark Twain

Originally posted by Marchello
*["WHAT POOR LOGIC AND invalid pathetic MISREPRESENTATION IMATATION..."]

***I don't deal in humanistic "logic"...I deal only with what the Scriptures dictate. It is people like you who deal in secular "logic"which misrepresents the Word of God...and "twists" it to feed their view of what it represents...at the expense of the truth.

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*["EVERYONE IN HEAVEN WILL BE A CHRISTIAN DUDE!!..."]

*** Correct...but NOT because they "deserve" it...they will only go there because of the GRACE [i.e., UNMERITED favor] of God: "For by GRACE are ye SAVED through FAITH; and that NOT of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God: NOT of WORKS, lest any man should boast" [Ephesians 2:8,9]. That is FACT because the Scriptures say so...it is the INTERPRETATION that the Scriptures give...and that's the name of that tune...DUDE!

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*["...their is NO WAY 4 ANYONE to enter the KINGDOM of HEAVAN WITHOUT SOME form of ACCEPTANCE IN CHRIST..."]

***El WRONGO DUDE!...it CANNOT be with "some" form of acceptance...it MUST be "total" ACCEPTANCE "of" Christ and the Salvation that He wrought for us at Calvary...by being our SUBSTITUTE on the cross...and taking our punishment for OUR sins upon Himself..."for He hath made Him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that WE might be made the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God IN Him" [2 Corinthians 5:21].

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*["...(by LOVING fullfillment of the LAW FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER READ HEARD OF THE SCRIPTURES or CHRIST)..."]

***El WRONGO DUDE! Jesus said He would fulfill the Law by obeying it PERFECTLY...and would fulfill the prophets' predictions of the Messiah and His kingdom. But the responsibility of the people was made clear. The RIGHTEOUSNESS they were seeking...that of the PHARISEES and the teachers of the LAW...was INSUFFICIENT for ENTRANCE into the KINGDOM Jesus was OFFERING. The RIGHTEOUSNESS He [Jesus] DEMANDED was NOT external...it was a true INNER RIGHTEOUSNESS based on FAITH in God's WORD [Romans 3:21-22].

Jesus rejected the traditions of the Pharisees [Matthew 5:21-48] and their practices [Matthew 6:1-7:6]. Six times He said, "You have heard that it was said...But I tell you" [5:21-22, 27-28, 31-32, 33-34, 38-39, 43-44]. These words make it clear that Jesus was presenting (a)what the Pharisees and teachers of the LAW were saying to the people...and, by CONTRAST, (b)what God's TRUE INTENT of the LAW was. This spelled out His statement [Matthew 5:20]...to wit: "For I say unto you, that EXCEPT your RIGHTEOUSNESS shall EXCEED the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the SCRIBES and PHARISEES, ye shall in NO CASE enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN" [Matthew 5:20].

BOTTOM-LINE: You and your fellow PHARISAIC brothers' righteousness is NOT sufficient enough to gain entrance into Christ's coming Kingdom...your righteousness is as FILTHY RAGS before my RIGHTEOUS God...Jesus Christ [Isaiah 64:6].

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*["...or by loving FAITH IN CHRISTS SACRAFICE..."]

***El WRONGO DUDE...there is NO "or"...it is ONLY by the SACRIFICE of the Lord Jesus Christ that we receive God's mercy for the forgiveness of our sins and His RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Marchello

And that is why you don't challege marchello on basic Chistianity (just interperetaions of it)