Satan - The Prince of Darkness

Originally posted by Marchello
***Fatima:

Thanks for your response...and "thumbs up" on your exams...hope you "ace" them with a good grade. I know how you feel...when I was in the university, I was always under "tension" until they were over...it was always hair, teeth and eyeball time!

O.K...until then...be well and may God bless you always.

Marchello

Hey again Marchello ..Well thanx I did my best in the exams ..

What do u mean by human born a sinner ?If god will forgive all sins then why put rules to follow like not to steal or kill ..do u think that will encourge people to live freely and break these rules becuase that they Guarantee going to heaven ..
Do u have atext in bible that said that jesus is the creator or god(except th sun of god)?

Thanks

Originally posted by Nellinator
Matthew 5:30
"And if thy right hand causeth thee to stumble. cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and that not thy whole body should be cast into hell."

Did I guess right? This is clearly telling you to remove the things from your life that tempt you to sin.

It wasn't that quote though....there was a quote in the Old Testament, not the New Testament, that stated if you "sin with your eye" you must gauge your eyeball out.....it referred to a situation where if you are married and you look at another man or woman with lust, then you have to remove your eyeball.

You will argue this is just a metaphor, but how do you know what is metaphor and what should be taken literal ? That's my next question.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It wasn't that quote though....there was a quote in the Old Testament, not the New Testament, that stated if you "sin with your eye" you must gauge your eyeball out.....it referred to a situation where if you are married and you look at another man or woman with lust, then you have to remove your eyeball.

How Hammurabi-esq and extremely creepy that seems less metaphorical than the other I'l

Originally posted by Lord Urizen

How do you know what is metaphor and what should be taken literal?

What do you want to see in the bible?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It wasn't that quote though....there was a quote in the Old Testament, not the New Testament, that stated if you "sin with your eye" you must gauge your eyeball out.....it referred to a situation where if you are married and you look at another man or woman with lust, then you have to remove your eyeball.

You will argue this is just a metaphor, but how do you know what is metaphor and what should be taken literal ? That's my next question.

Here Jesus teaches us that sin originates in heart, which is true. However, he then goes on telling us that things that 'offend' us (more literally 'cause us to stumble'😉 we should remove them from our lives. Knowing what is a metaphor is often tricky, however, we know from the rest of his life story that he never actually practiced or encouraged these things among his followers even when they did sin, strongly suggesting that that was not his intention. When Jesus told Peter that Peter would deny him three times, Jesus did not tell him to slit his tongue so that he wouldn't. We can also see that it was apparent to Jesus's disciples that it was metaphor because none of them practiced that teaching literally. However, the disciples would later preach on the cleansing or washing of one's heart and accepting the Holy Spirit in order to effect change on the inside. By this we understand that the disciples knew it to be a metaphor. Furthermore, from my understanding the language usually indicates a literary device, just as a similie is obvious to us, but I do not know if this is true in this case.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Since when do we use disclaimers?

When they are funny ones. 😛

Knock knock......Why did Moses go on the mountain?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Knock knock......Why did Moses go on the mountain?

Wrong thread. 😛

Ok........because.........Moses needed to mount things........ 😄 😮

Sorry, feeling evil tonight.....lol

Originally posted by debbiejo
Ok........because.........Moses needed to mount things........ 😄 😮

Sorry, feeling evil tonight.....lol

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Deb over here...

Put Kara on this pc..........lol

Originally posted by debbiejo
Put Kara on this pc..........lol

She is laughing on the floor.

Opportunity for you????

*Points* 😄 😛

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I just don't think Marcello should be attacking the Catholic Church when his own Church has much to answer for.....

I agree totally. My point is that he divorces Catholicism from christianity. That's ignorant. It's ignorant of history and reality.

And, truth be known, Marchello need not attack anyone until he takes jesus' advice and removes the plank from his own eye.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I noticed that the majority of topics in the religion forum center around Christianity and its God. God gets either praised or bashed, and Jesus gets either idolized or made fun of.

Well what about [b]SATAN ?

Why are thier SO FEW THREADS dedicated to him ?

This is the OFFICIAL SATAN THREAD !

Please feel free to worship, praise, bless, insult, curse, or critisize SATAN in any way you choose !

I think there needs to be a BALANCE. We have lots of Christians promoting God's word....we have lots of Athiests and Agnostics ignoring God's word, but we dont have ANYBODY speaking on behalf of the good ol' devil.

Hey...even demons deserve thier shine !

SO !!!! ALL YOU DIRTY LITTLE SINNERS !

ON YOUR KNEES ! droolio

BEND OVER !!! droolio

AND PRAY TO YOUR NEW LORD AND MASTER SATAN !

SO SPEAKS THE ANTI CHRIST !!!!

😆 *I cant WAIT til JIA reads this ! [/B]

Break it down and think to yourself, "why is the devil really bad"?

You will find that he was dubbed "evil" because he simply refused to obey God's every command, and once that happened, Satan is automatically the "king of evil?"

Thats like when you were younger, telling your parents that you didn't want to do the dishes, and then they beat the crap out of you, threw ya out of the house, and then preceded to talk shit about you for the rest of your life.

If there is a God, and he is so arrogant that when someone dosen't obey him, they are defamed for all of Eternity........ Well that's not really a God I'd want to follow. 😕

*dodges the random objects being thrown*

Originally posted by Galan007
My oppinion is that people get caught up in believing that the devil is purely evil based solely on what mortal men wrote in the Bible.

Break it down and think to yourself, "why is the devil really bad"?

You will find that he was dubbed "evil" because he simply refused to obey God's every command, and once that happened, Satan is automatically the "king of evil?"

Thats like when you were younger, telling your parents that you didn't want to do the dishes, and then they beat the crap out of you, threw ya out of the house, and then preceded to talk shit about you for the rest of your life.

If there is a God, and he is so arrogant that when someone dosen't obey him, they are defamed for all of Eternity........ Well that's not really a God I'd want to follow. 😕

*dodges the random objects being thrown*

Mythology has more to do with us then God.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Mythology has more to do with us then God.

Originally posted by Galan007
What do you mean?

Consider your post above. How many times has something like that happened in real life? A son rebels against the controlling father and sets out to make his own life and is rejected by the father.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Consider your post above. How many times has something like that happened in real life? A son rebels against the controlling father and sets out to make his own life and is rejected by the father.

I guess my main point was that it seems rediculous that simply because Satan rebelled against God, and defied his word, we as humans mainly look at Satan as the incarnation of pure evil.

Originally posted by Galan007
I agree.

I guess my main point was that it seems rediculous that simply because Satan rebelled against God, and defied his word, we as humans mainly look at Satan as the incarnation of pure evil.

Simple minds come to simple conclusions.

Originally posted by Galan007
I agree.

I guess my main point was that it seems rediculous that simply because Satan rebelled against God, and defied his word, we as humans mainly look at Satan as the incarnation of pure evil.