Who is Allah? (Have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?)

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Who is Allah? (Have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?)

Ephesians 4:15
but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ—

Galatians 4:16
Have I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth?

Allah - the Moon God

The Archeology of The Middle East

by Eric Barger

The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.

Archeologists have uncovered temples to the Moon-god throughout the Middle East. From the mountains of Turkey to the banks of the Nile, the most wide-spread religion of the ancient world was the worship of the Moon-god. In the first literate civilization, the Sumerians have left us thousands of clay tablets in which they described their religious beliefs. As demonstrated by Sjoberg and Hall, the ancient Sumerians worshipped a Moon-god who was called many different names. The most popular names were Nanna, Suen and Asimbabbar. His symbol was the crescent moon. Given the amount of artifacts concerning the worship of this Moon-god, it is clear that this was the dominant religion in Sumeria. The cult of the Moon-god was the most popular religion throughout ancient Mesopotamia. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and the Akkadians took the word Suen and transformed it into the word Sin as their favorite name for the Moon-god. As Prof. Potts pointed out, "Sin is a name essentially Sumerian in origin which had been borrowed by the Semites."

In ancient Syria and Canna, the Moon-god Sin was usually represented by the moon in its crescent phase. At times the full moon was placed inside the crescent moon to emphasize all the phases of the moon. The sun-goddess was the wife of Sin and the stars were their daughters. For example, Istar was a daughter of Sin. Sacrifices to the Moon-god are described in the Pas Shamra texts. In the Ugaritic texts, the Moon-god was sometimes called Kusuh. In Persia, as well as in Egypt, the Moon-god is depicted on wall murals and on the heads of statues. He was the Judge of men and gods. The Old Testament constantly rebuked the worship of the Moon-god

(see: Deut. 4:19;17:3; II Kngs. 21:3,5; 23:5; Jer. 8:2; 19:13; Zeph. 1:5, etc.)

When Israel fell into idolatry, it was usually the cult of the Moon-god. As a matter of fact, everywhere in the ancient world, the symbol of the crescent moon can be found on seal impressions, steles, pottery, amulets, clay tablets, cylinders, weights, earrings, necklaces, wall murals, etc. In Tell-el-Obeid, a copper calf was found with a crescent moon on its forehead. An idol with the body of a bull and the head of man has a crescent moon inlaid on its forehead with shells. In Ur, the Stela of Ur-Nammu has the crescent symbol placed at the top of the register of gods because the Moon-god was the head of the gods. Even bread was baked in the form of a crescent as an act of devotion to the Moon-god. The Ur of the Chaldees was so devoted to the Moon-god that it was sometimes called Nannar in tablets from that time period.

A temple of the Moon-god has been excavated in Ur by Sir Leonard Woolley. He dug up many examples of moon worship in Ur and these are displayed in the British Museum to this day. Harran was likewise noted for its devotion to the Moon-god. In the 1950's a major temple to the Moon-god was excavated at Hazer in Palestine. Two idols of the moon god were found. Each was a stature of a man sitting upon a throne with a crescent moon carved on his chest . The accompanying inscriptions make it clear that these were idols of the Moon-god. Several smaller statues were also found which were identified by their inscriptions as the "daughters" of the Moon-god. What about Arabia? As pointed out by Prof. Coon, "Muslims are notoriously loath to preserve traditions of earlier paganism and like to garble what pre-Islamic history they permit to survive in anachronistic
terms."

During the nineteenth century, Amaud, Halevy and Glaser went to Southern Arabia and dug up thousands of Sabean, Minaean, and Qatabanian inscriptions which were subsequently translated. In the 1940's, the archeologists G. Caton Thompson and Carleton S. Coon made some amazing discoveries in Arabia. During the 1950's, Wendell Phillips, W.F. Albright, Richard Bower and others excavated sites at Qataban, Timna, and Marib (the ancient capital of Sheba). Thousands of inscriptions from walls and rocks in Northern Arabia have also been collected. Reliefs and votive bowls used in worship of the "daughters of Allah" have also been discovered. The three daughters, al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat are sometimes depicted together with Allah the Moon-god represented by a crescent moon above them. The archeological evidence demonstrates that the dominant religion of Arabia was the cult of the Moon-god.

In Old Testament times, Nabonidus (555-539 BC), the last king of Babylon, built Tayma, Arabia as a center of Moon-god worship. Segall stated, "South Arabia's stellar religion has always been dominated by the Moon-god in various variations." Many scholars have also noticed that the Moon-god's name "Sin" is a part of such Arabic words as "Sinai," the "wilderness of Sin," etc. When the popularity of the Moon-god waned elsewhere, the Arabs remained true to their conviction that the Moon-god was the greatest of all gods. While they worshipped 360 gods at the Kabah in Mecca, the Moon-god was the chief deity. Mecca was in fact built as a shrine for the Moon-god.

This is what made it the most sacred site of Arabian paganism. In 1944, G. Caton Thompson revealed in her book, The Tombs and Moon Temple of Hureidha, that she had uncovered a temple of the Moon-god in southern Arabia. The symbols of the crescent moon and no less than twenty-one inscriptions with the name Sin were found in this temple. An idol which may be the Moon-god himself was also discovered. This was later confirmed by other well-known archeologists.

The evidence reveals that the temple of the Moon-god was active even in the Christian era. Evidence gathered from both North and South Arabia demonstrate that Moon-god worship was clearly active even in Muhammad's day and was still the dominant cult. According to numerous inscriptions, while the name of the Moon-god was Sin, his title was al-ilah, i.e. "the deity," meaning that he was the chief or high god among the gods. As Coon pointed out, "The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God." The Moon-god was called al-ilah, i.e. the god, which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times. The pagan Arabs even used Allah in the names they gave to their children. For example, both Muhammad's father and uncle had Allah as part of their names.

The fact that they were given such names by their pagan parents proves that Allah was the title for the Moon-god even in Muhammad's day. Prof. Coon goes on to say, "Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being."

This fact answers the questions, "Why is Allah never defined in the Qur'an? Why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?" Muhammad was raised in the religion of the Moon-god Allah. But he went one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah, i.e. the Moon-god, was the greatest of all gods and the supreme deity in a pantheon of deities, Muhammad decided that Allah was not only the greatest god but the only god.

In effect he said, "Look, you already believe that the Moon-god Allah is the greatest of all gods. All I want you to do is to accept that the idea that he is the only god. I am not taking away the Allah you already worship. I am only taking away his wife and his daughters and all the other gods." This is seen from the fact that the first point of the Muslim creed is not, "Allah is great" but "Allah is the greatest," i.e., he is the greatest among the gods. Why would Muhammad say that Allah is the "greatest" except in a polytheistic context? The Arabic word is used to contrast the greater from the lesser. That this is true is seen from the fact that the pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped. This "Allah" was the Moon-god according to the archeological evidence. Muhammad thus attempted to have it both ways. To the pagans, he said that he still believed in the Moon-god Allah. To the Jews and the Christians, he said that Allah was their God too. But both the Jews and the Christians knew better and that is why they rejected his god Allah as a false god.

Al-Kindi, one of the early Christian apologists against Islam, pointed out that Islam and its god Allah did not come from the Bible but from the paganism of the Sabeans. They did not worship the God of the Bible but the Moon-god and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat and Manat. Dr. Newman concludes his study of the early Christian-Muslim debates by stating, "Islam proved itself to be...a separate and antagonistic religion which had sprung up from idolatry." Islamic scholar Caesar Farah concluded "There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews." The Arabs worshipped the Moon-god as a supreme deity. But this was not biblical monotheism. While the Moon-god was greater than all other gods and goddesses, this was still a polytheistic pantheon of deities. Now that we have the actual idols of the Moon-god, it is no longer possible to avoid the fact that Allah was a pagan god in pre-Islamic times. Is it any wonder then that the symbol of Islam is the crescent moon? That a crescent moon sits on top of their mosques and minarets? That a crescent moon is found on the flags of Islamic nations? That the Muslims fast during the month which begins and ends with the appearance of the crescent moon in the sky?

CONCLUSION
The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.

The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry and must be rejected by all those who follow the Torah and Gospel. moongod.htm

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Ex-Moslems report why they chose Jesus

Christians from 39 nations and 50 ethnic groups are represented in a study of some 600 ex-Moslems carried out by Fuller Theological Institute's Professor Dudley Woodberry. They speak of the reasons why they decided to leave Islam to follow Jesus, even in the face of heavy persecution, sacrifice and death threats.

The most important results:
- a growing number of Moslems are turning to Jesus;
- a growing number of small groups are meeting in secret, hiding their new faith even from their own families.

The most frequently mentioned reasons for conversion were:

1. Certainty of Salvation: according to Islamic tradition (Hadith), the bridge to heaven "is only as wide as a hair; not even good deeds guarantee admission to Paradise." Many were attracted by the certainty of salvation in Jesus.

2. Christ's character is particularly attractive: "He does not retaliate, is humble, loves the poor and outcasts; the power of his love is unique, and one can enter a relationship with him, completely different to Islam, in which a personal relationship with God is unthinkable."

3. Christians' character: "Christians are the only people who really work for justice for the poor and repressed; Christians' unconditional love, and their peaceful and contented aura are very noticeable."

4. Dreams and visions: over 25% said that dreams and visions were decisive in them finding Christ. Jesus very frequently appears to Moslems as a white figure:

- One believer from Guinea recounts the dream of a figure in a white robe, calling the man to come to Him. In a related dream, he recalls that the same figure's arms were extended, beckoning him. He now knows that the figure was Christ.

- A convert from the Middle East who had been afflicted with severe headaches was lying on his bed after having prayed for his sick son. A man with a beautiful, peaceful face appeared. Dressed in white, the figure walked to the head of the man's bed and touched him three times on the head. The next morning his headaches were gone. His son, too, was fully healed.

- A West African man had a clear vision of a devout Moslem in hell and a poor Christian, who had been unable to give alms, in heaven. A voice explained to him that the difference was belief in Jesus.

5. Supernatural experiences: a number of ex-Moslems had supernatural experiences which were decisive in them finding Christ. An Egyptian Moslem was reading the gospels, and had just reached Luke 3 when a strong wind entered the room, and a voice said "I am Jesus Christ, whom you hate. I am the Lord you are seeking." "I cried and cried, and decided to follow Jesus that day," he remembers.

Source: http://www.missionfrontiers.org

http://www.ericbarger.com/whoisallah.htm

You ... you know that Christian Middle Eaterners also worhip "Allah," right? I mean, it's just "God" in a different language.

"Who is Allah?" The Judeo-Christian God. Next question?

When I saw this thread I knew you would post it, because people had already explained to you what Allah is, but you being so ignorant, thought this was a better idea.

You've already tried this when people told you Jesus is an idol. And where did it get you?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Allah is the Arabic name for God. Did you know that Arabic Christians and Jews say Allah aswell? obviously not.

Allah is taken from a contraction of the Arabic words al, "the", and ilah, "deity, masculine form", to form alilah, "the god".

Before Muhammad, Allah was used by Jews.

Allah was taken from the Hebrew language, directly from Eloah, the Hebrew term for deity.

Using your logic:

[list][*]Arabs used the Hebrew word Eloah, God, to create the term Allah, the One God.

[*]Pagan Arabs used the term Allah to name the Moon God

[*]Islam uses Allah in reference to the God of Abraham[/list]
Your logic states that thus Islam is worshipping the Moon God, because the term was used in reference to the Moon God first.

Thus, the same logic must apply to the preceding series, so the Arabs worshipping the Moon God were really worshipping the Hebrew God, because the term was used in reference to the Hebrew God first.

Thus, all three were worshipping the Hebrew God by reason of deduction, using your logic.

Don't use stupid logic if you can help it JIA, the first posts and argument presented with this thread are a blatant example of stupid logic.

Who is Allah? (Have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?)

Originally posted by Regret
(Have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?)

Considering JIA is against truth....its very likely.

MODS, do we have to keep putting up with this??

How bout compiling all this guy's threads into one. Cause its the same thing over and over and over......................

ALLAH IS GOD!!!!!!

Originally posted by Gregory
You ... you know that Christian Middle Eaterners also worhip "Allah," right? I mean, it's just "God" in a different language.

"Who is Allah?" The Judeo-Christian God. Next question?

Exactly. "Allah" just means "god" in Arabic.

In Spanish "dios" means "god". So is "Dios" a complete and sepereate god from the Christian god?, no. Its just a word meaning "god".

JIA you are not a very social person are you, never the life of the party huh?

Originally posted by crazy
JIA you are not a very social person are you, never the life of the party huh?

I do believe this thread is his response to my criticising his approach to Fatimah and his/her beliefs in another thread.

Now if I could just find some way to make him answer questions I have actually asked him...

But anyway I'll have some fun - since JIA wants to use sites of questionable legitimacy in regards to "Muslims becoming Christian"...

http://thetruereligion.org/modules/xfsection/index.php?category=1

Some Christian priests and missionaries who have converted to Islam 😱

http://www.islamfortoday.com/converts.htm#COTW

Or people of all walks of life convert 😱

How about that... Christians convert to Islam, Muslims convert to Christianity... seems to me JIA that it is like always - no religion has a monopoly on being right, and as such people change to what they think is correct. Clearly your faith isn't the only one that has the ring of truth for people. Personally neither ring true for me, so I'll stick with my current view.

And you know, for some reason I am dubious from the get go when your base you "moon God" claim on an article from "Biblebelievers.com." And when they are based upon the writings of "Eric Barger" - evangelist and muck raker. Talks out against Harry Potter and Dungeons & Dragons - the guy who thinks the world is being invaded by occult forces spear headed by fantasy fiction and goths and Wicca. Woah, were do you get these people from JIA? Oh wait, BibleBelievers.com. Never mind.

And much of this is based on the works of other noted muck-raker Robert Morey... lets have a look at him...

Robert Morey has written several books condemning Islam. One controversial book entitled "The Islamic Invasion", which is printed by Chick Publications, makes several controversial claims such as Allah not being the same God as that of the Christian Bible, that Muhammad was not God's prophet and that the Quran doesn't contain the words of God. As religious scholars agree that Islam is one of the Abrahamic religions, these claims are in opposition to accepted theological positions. Publication of the book by Chick Publications, which is owned by the evangelical tract maker Jack Chick, is consistent with the overall tenor of books published by Chick, as he and Alberto Rivera ignited the Vatican Islam Conspiracy.

Hmmmm - how about that! JIA... promoting the claims of a Chick Tract publicist, whose views have widely been discredited by the historical and theological community. JIA drawing upon theories worth less then the paper they are written on? Who would have guessed.

And wasn't he also the chap who made the statement about how he was watching terrorists and they already had nukes in the US and how WWIII will be caused by Muslims? Oh JIA, you kill me. Hmmm, and as I continue to read... why, there is controversy over his credentials - it appears he may have committed academic fraud. How very sad.

And whats this, even Christian historians seem embarrassed by him. Thanks JIA, I had a good laugh, now I shall continue to do my exam revision using actually reputable people who stand up to massive amounts of scrutiny, unlike these two who get knocked over by the merest wiff of fact.

Well, I believe Chirstianity is the only religion losing adherents.

Originally posted by Alliance
Well, I believe Chirstianity is the only religion losing adherents.

Oh, I agree there - it is the one in quickest decline out of the big three. Which makes its claims of being the one true religion even harder to swallow. It is really hard to believe if God was with the Christians their religion would lack any divine pull.

Maybe it is because it is championed by people like Barger, Chick and Morey.

Seriously, am I the only one not surprised that I can trace the entire foundation of JIA's claims back to Chick publications?

No.

Big three being Christianity, Islam, and Non-Religious?

Originally posted by Alliance

Big three being Christianity, Islam, and Non-Religious?

Actually that is what I was thinking, but I didn't want to start a whole "is Atheism a religion" in this thread as well.

I find myself hoping I will be around in 2070 because I would love to see the religious and philosophical landscape at that point.

Very different with the US scraping the bottom of the moral pot.

Originally posted by Alliance
Very different with the US scraping the bottom of the moral pot.

Which is why Christian will always claim is because "The US isn't Christian enough."

Imperial I was doing research on Jack Chick's resources so I also came across Islamic Invasion and I was amazed at how many people actually believed what he wrote. I was reading some reviews on amazon, and there is an interesting one that shows how BS his book really is.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/1931230072/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/102-3886636-5605739?ie=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fb

Check out the 5th one from the top by Nick Waves

Originally posted by crazy
Imperial I was doing research on Jack Chick's resources so I also came across Islamic Invasion and I was amazed at how many people actually believed what he wrote. I was reading some reviews on amazon, and there is an interesting one that shows how BS his book really is.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/1931230072/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/102-3886636-5605739?ie=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fb

Check out the 5th one from the top by Nick Waves

Nick Waves did a great job there, and seems to have covered all the most fundamental problems with Morey's "theory" - it is horrible to think though so many people could have given the book 5 stars.

I comfort myself thinking "it was probably Morey himself writing them."

I'll post it here for others to read:

Mr. Robert Morey is a complete crackpot who pushes hate and already disproven theories as scholarship. His "moon-god" premise both lacks logic and historical accuracy and the fact that he continues to preach it makes me wonder if he believes in any god at all. After all, isn't lying a sin? Well, what about repeatedly lying, writing books about the lie, and lying to college-aged kids through radio and computer broadcasts? Is that what Jesus would do?

From deliberately misquoting scripture (verses in the Qur'an taken grossly out of context), to cutting, pasting, and misquoting (which seems to be Morey's masterwork) works of scholars (Professor Carleton S. Coon, for example), "Islamic Invasion" is a tour de force of second-rate scholarship, strawman arguments, and bold-faced lies.

For example, Morey claims that the word "Allah" comes from the moon-god, and that Muslims do not actually worship God, but (heaven forbid!)...the Moon-God! Like I noted above, this statement, first being an outright lie (and Morey knows this too...that is the crazy part! I'll explain below.), shows neither any knowledge of the Arabic language, nor familiarity with Arab culture. Second, the arguement lacks any basis in logic, as I will show. On to the first point...

I myself am an Arab. My family speaks Arabic. My family also happens to be Christian. (I am a Muslim) Now, when my Grandmother prays (she is a Christian mind you) she uses the word "Allah". She is worshipping God. That is how you say "God" in Arabic, whether you are a Christian, a Muslim, a Jew, a Druze, atheist, whatever. It is not like some two-cent fakes (ahem...) note that in Arabic you use the word "Khodh", which happens to be a Farsi word meaning "Lord". This is not true in the least and quite honestly I do not know anyone who uses that word for "God". "Lord" and "God " are two different words. Now, let us follow his logic for a moment. Let us say that the word "Allah" really did come from the "Moon God". Would that mean that everyone that called upon God with the name "Allah" would be damned for Hell, worshipping the "Moon God"?

Let me show the absurdity of this logic by using an example. You have a Spanish speaking Christian who is bowing his head, calling upon "Dios". There is a French Christian kneeling, calling upon "Dieu". An Italian is in the streets with his hands to the sky, praying to "Dio". And a Portuguese is crying out to "Deus". Well, according to Morey's "logic", all of these are damned because etmologically, these names all find their root in the name "Zeus", the god of the pagan Greeks. Wow...even the study of God, "Theology", is in fact the study of "Zeus", as "Theos" is linked to "Zeus". Does anyone really buy this? After all, didn't Jesus call upon God using the name "Alaha?" How in the world does Mr. Morey explain that? Is Jesus too worshiping the moon-god? Perhaps this only works according to his own theology. (Oh, whoops, there's that word again.) I will explain in my second point...

You see, in Islam, there is something called "intention". This is very important. So important that the Prophet of God, Muhammad, noted that "All actions are by their intentions, and you will be rewarded by what you have intended." Thus, if someone calls upon God using the word "Allah", or "Dios", or "Dieu", or "Yahweh", or whatever, and in his heart he is intending to communicate with the One True God without associating any partners or unbefitting attributes, he is communicating with and answered by God. God does not punish people on technicalities. After all, He is the All-Merciful.

Here is an exlicit example of how Morey cites from "authorities." The following is an excerpt from Prof. Carleton S. Coon:

"The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God, but early in Arabian history the name became a general term for god, and it was this name that the Hebrews used prominently in their personal names, such as Emanu-el, Israel, etc., rather than the Bapal of the northern semites proper, which was the Sun. Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allh, the Supreme Being. (Carleton S.Coon, Southern Arabia, (Washington, D.C. Smithsonian, 1944) p.399)."

Now, Morey, in his hate-blinded attempt to show that the Muslims actually worship the moon-god, chops up Prof. Coon's statement and comes up wth this: "The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon god" (Morey p. 10 - 11). Why didn't he complete the sentence? There was more to it. He "forgot" this part: "but early in Arabian history the name became a general term for god, and it was this name that the Hebrews used prominently in their personal names, such as Emanu-el, Israel, etc., rather than the Bapal of the northern semites proper, which was the Sun." Why did he deliberately leave that out?

In short, Morey is an absolute fraud who should fear the god he claims to believe in: lying and the deliberate spreading of lies are enormities, regardless of which religion one belongs. He should stop making incredible statements which he cannot prove, turn in his pen and microphone, and sincerely apologize to all of those whom he has mislead.

The cover made me laugh as well. I swear it looks so much like those covers they put on spy novels in the late 80s, you know, all the ones to do with Soviet plots being foiled by Americans with large chins and guns that never run out of bullets.

Anyway - JIA, is this another thread you have started but wont return to defend?

Course, it wouldn't hurt to pull out the ol' "Ahura-Mazda" connection...