Who is Allah? (Have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?)

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Are God and Allah One and the Same?

The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (i.e. Israel) and Allah are not the same deity. I could go on enumerating the many reasons why this is true but I would be here until Christmas so I will defer to others who have already done the legwork.

Although I will list some of the most basic reasons why God and Allah are not one and the same here they are:

1. God has a Son but Allah denies having a Son.
2. God is Triune but Allah denies being triune.
3. God's Son Jesus was killed by crucifixion but Allah denies this fact.
4. God is Love (this is Who He is) but Allah is never called love.
5. God's covenant Name is YHWH not Allah. YHWH is never called Allah in the Bible, and Allah is never called YHWH in the Qu'ran (Koran).
6. The Bible never mentions Mecca nor Medina, but mentions Jerusalem 814 times! However the Koran never mentions Jerusalem.
7. God's special treasure (the Jews) are a people that He has chosen for Himself. The God of the Bible has set His love upon the Jews. Allah states in the Qu'ran,

Sura 5:51
51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

These are just seven reasons/facts that confute the fallacy/untruth that the God of the Bible and Allah are the same God. They are not the same God. Those who mendaciously assert that they are the same must deal with these scathing contradictions.

http://www.letusreason.org/Islam6.htm

http://www.kingmessiahproject.com/is_allah_not_God.html

http://www.menorah.org/allahtrc.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/god.htm [/B]

Quran mention the Aqsa mosqe in Jerusalem ,

God is one ..

in bible,quran ,torah, but there are people add wrong ideas in bible , i cant understand why god has son 😉

Originally posted by Strangelove
This is actually widely regarded as a mistranslation of the Qu'ran. The actual translation states 'patrons,' not friends.

"It is obvious that Jews patronize the Jews and Christians patronize the Christians, so why not Muslims patronize Muslims and support their own people. This verse is not telling us to be against Jews or Christians, but it is telling us that we should take care of our own people and we must support each other."

http://www.authenticsunnah.org/sami_zaatri/friends.htm

Well, in JIA's case, it's pretty much the same thing, since he's sure to patronize any Muslim he comes accross

(I'm sorry ... it just slipped out...)

Did anyone even read what I said about Arabic Christians and Jews saying Allah aswell?

I think everybody in this thread read it, except possibly for the person you were addressing.

Yes, I agree with that. Allah is the name of god, not the name of the Kaaba.

(Incedentally, a Kabbah is a Mayan prayerstone.)

I'm not Muslim, but Allah is God by a different name.

Originally posted by Gregory
I think everybody in this thread read it, except possibly for the person you were addressing.
Any thread started by JIA, I already know his point before I click on it. So there's no point to read his post.

No, I mean I don't think he read your post. Or if he did, he decided to ignore it.

The God of the Bible is love, an impossibility for Allah. As a single entity, Allah was lonely and could not love or fellowship until other entities came into existence. Not so with YHWH (Jehovah). He is three persons in One: Father, Son and Holy Spirit, complete in Himself and in need of no others to love and fellowship with ("The Father loveth the Son" [John 3:35], there is communion within the Godhead, etc.). Only of this God could it be said that He is love in Himself.

😐 I see... It makes perfect sense now. ❌

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You failed to address the contradictions as usual.

Haha, are you really saying this? Just wow.

Interesting, one could make the same accusation based on similar "contradictions" as JIA puts it to separate Christianity from "The God of Abraham"

Exactly what I was thinking...

Originally posted by Alliance
Very different with the US scraping the bottom of the moral pot.

Ugh. I'm almost delighted to see how far we'll have fallen then.
Originally posted by Robtard
Jews deny Jesus to be God's son and God, Jews deny God's three faces, Jews deny that Jesus died for our sins and only through Jesus can eternal salvation be had... So, do the Jews who worship the God of Abraham worship a different God than Christians?

Point being, they ARE the same God, the difference lies in practices, views and ways of worship. End the lunacy JIA.


I too was considering this. It all depends on how strictly one defines "being the same."

Originally posted by BobbyD
I'm not Muslim, but Allah is God by a different name.
A God by any other name would be just as ineffective

ALLAH BABA !

Allah promises me 72 Virgins....Jehovah promises me eternal orgasm..i duno, it's a hard choice to make....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
ALLAH BABA !

Allah promises me 72 Virgins....Jehovah promises me eternal orgasm..i duno, it's a hard choice to make....

😂

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
ALLAH BABA !

Allah promises me 72 Virgins....Jehovah promises me eternal orgasm..i duno, it's a hard choice to make....

My God (He Who is Yet to Be Named) promises both. At the same time. And the Virgins will somehow magical remain virgins while you experience your eternal orgasm.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
ALLAH BABA !

Allah promises me 72 Virgins....Jehovah promises me eternal orgasm..i duno, it's a hard choice to make....

If you were eternally orgasming...that gets boring.

Take the virgins and enjoy the chase.

Originally posted by Alliance
Take the virgins and enjoy the chase.

👆 I like the way this guy thinks.

😂

Okay, what this boils down to is that Allah is a moon god because islamic nations use the crescent moon as their symbol. I find it laughable that all the christian symbolism isn't mentioned to deflect his/her/it's arguments. Archetypes and symbolism that date back thousands of years isn't relevant?Divine birth, rising from the dead, miracles, healing the sick, facial hair, etc. All bullshit.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Okay, what this boils down to is that Allah is a moon god because islamic nations use the crescent moon as their symbol. I find it laughable that all the christian symbolism isn't mentioned to deflect his/her/it's arguments. Archetypes and symbolism that date back thousands of years isn't relevant?Divine birth, rising from the dead, miracles, healing the sick, facial hair, etc. All bullshit.

Jesus is the addition god.