What determines if a character is above Street Level?

Originally posted by tideoftime
Generally, "street level" characters don't have powers (and when they do, they aren't major abilities/potencies), with opposition, general feats, and specific settings adding to this core precept. Wolverine, even in his most "reasonable" interpretations, should not be considered street-level; Nightwing (despite having numerous off-world adventures and having faced powerful opponents via The Titans) is in the upper ranges of street level; a local psychic with clairvoyant abilities (and the odd telekinetic/telepathic power demonstration) is still street level, while Madame Xanadu (whose shop is two streets down and to the right) really isn't, as she has demonstrated abilities greater than normally encountered on "the street", though that is where you will often find her, as such. So degree of meta(mystic)power is primary, while other factors weigh in for context.

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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This one has been on my mind for awhile... the terminology of what is Street Level is too vague. Some would consider Spiderman street level, and others would argue he's beyond. In terms of what and who he fights he would be Street Level, but in terms of powerset he is beyond DD, Cap, Batman, etc. So I can see what both sides are getting at.

Is it the fact that they cannot fly? Or that they are fighting normal crooks and "people on the street", or what? What makes a character street level, and where would you draw the line.

Powers.
Feats.
Location.
Statistics.
Other.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
"street level" is a stupid term to begin with, the level should be named for the characters, it shouldn't be characters getting shoehorned into this vague description.

I think there is a difference between a street hero and a street level character. Spider-Man is the former, but not the latter.

Street level in comics is very very low and imo no hero or villian should be on that level, its meant for characters like Jim and Alfred.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I think it is more of a slang term that derived from the history and cliches of comics(fighting bank robbers, mugs, thugs, local evil scientists, etc).

I think there is a difference between a street hero and a street level character. Spider-Man is the former, but not the latter.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, spider-man would be the first to say that fighting big threats is out of his jurisdiction, he rather try and live as normal an existence as possible. he will take on a big gun or two, but his heart is street level.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Street level in comics is very very low and imo no hero or villian should be on that level, its meant for characters like Jim and Alfred.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, spider-man would be the first to say that fighting big threats is out of his jurisdiction, he rather try and live as normal an existence as possible. he will take on a big gun or two, but his heart is street level.

joe fixit/gray hulk is street level, his stats are quite higher though *coughasteroidtwiceearthsizeshatteredlikenothingcough*

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i always thought "street level" just described what threat the character deals with on a regular basis. The tier system is where powers come into play.

Rhino is a meta character who only does street level crimes.

Interesting, people don't think of it from the villain side.

I can agree with that for some characters.

With what?

imo, people who can be hurt by a human punching them is street level

Street level is more about capability. You can be a meta level character in terms of tiers but your skills, intelligence, motivations keep you at street level.

An easy example is Lex Luthor, who's about only a peak human in terms of tiers but operates at a global or planetary level because of his influence (money, resources, level of ambition, intellect etc etc).

edit did not realize how old this thread was.

Spider-man < MA ring a bell? haw-som

J/K 😛

EDIT: Damn you for editing ahah

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
imo, people who can be hurt by a human punching them is street level

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Spider-man < MA ring a bell? haw-som

J/K 😛

EDIT: Damn you for editing ahah

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I to quick for you 😛

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
imo, people who can be hurt by a human punching them is street level