Jean Grey vs. Storm

Originally posted by stormfront13
exodus...read the scan again. tell me what it says. read it very slowly. emma said she was going to fry storms mind again, which obviously wasn't very successful considering how the fight turned out.

Um...I'll type it out for you....

"Switch from DIAMOND to human form so my telepathy works...then back to diamond for the fall that follows AFTER I fry your brain."

What does she do after she fries Storms brain....go back to Diamond Form for the fall that follows....

It's that simple...

Once they land she does a TELEPATHIC BEHAVIOUR MODIFICATION.....

Noble elements are generally not very receptive to external influences

Originally posted by stormfront13
exodus...read the scan again. tell me what it says. read it very slowly. emma said she was going to fry storms mind again, which obviously wasn't very successful considering how the fight turned out.

Exodus and X, she states that she is going to fry storms brain during the fall. she does but was either A) unsuccessful, or B) it wasn't that affective since storm got right back up

Originally posted by stormfront13
i think this has basically just turned into another emma VS storm debate. obviously jean defeats storm.

Well, I'm just glad to see that you've finally turned around there yourself. Good to have you on the correct side, stormfront. 👆 🤘

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Well, I'm just glad to see that you've finally turned around there yourself. Good to have you on the correct side, stormfront. 👆 🤘

it's only common knowlege...jean has ripped people apart with her TK. yes, storm is powerful in her own right, but Tk almost always trumps

Originally posted by stormfront13
Exodus and X, she states that she is going to fry storms brain during the fall. she does but was either A) unsuccessful, or B) it wasn't that affective since storm got right back up

SF, I think you know very well as I do, that if Emma REALLY wanted to put Storm down, then she would've. She didn't want to put Storm in a coma or kill her instantly, as is clearly obvious by her actions. She wanted her alive, to toy with her, to modify her behavior. Had she just wanted Storm dead, that initial psi-bolt would've been of lethal proprotions. I know you know Emma can do and could've done so very easily.

Originally posted by stormfront13
it's only common knowlege...jean has ripped people apart with her TK. yes, storm is powerful in her own right, but Tk almost always trumps

Exactly. I will NEVER argue that Storm isn't powerful. Because she is.

But TK and TP are just a bit too much for her abilities.

HELLO!!! Jean doesn't even have to be in the same country to fry her damn synapses!!!!

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Exactly. I will NEVER argue that Storm isn't powerful. Because she is.

But TK and TP are just a bit too much for her abilities.

TK and TP are almost always too much for anyone if written correctly...however, i do think storm can defeat emma because in the scan, emma caught storm by suprise. in a straight up fight, there'd be nothing like that.

Originally posted by jffxex1980
HELLO!!! Jean doesn't even have to be in the same country to fry her damn synapses!!!!

well actually she has to at least be in the same country

Originally posted by stormfront13
TK and TP are almost always too much for anyone if written correctly...however, i do think storm can defeat emma because in the scan, emma caught storm by suprise. in a straight up fight, there'd be nothing like that.

...Okay...

You just went right back to where you once were. 🙁

Emma can do the exact same thing to Storm that Jean can telepathically. Jean can just do it better. But that's irrelevant, because Emma can still completely fry Storm's brain. Yes, even if Storm is ready and prepared.

Really though. What is she going to do to defend herself against a thought-speed attack that will kill her instantly if the user wants it to be so?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...Okay...

You just went right back to where you once were. 🙁

Emma can do the exact same thing to Storm that Jean can telepathically. Jean can just do it better. But that's irrelevant, because Emma can still completely fry Storm's brain. Yes, even if Storm is ready and prepared.

Really though. What is she going to do to defend herself against a thought-speed attack that will kill her instantly if the user wants it to be so?

she doesn't have to do anything, there is natural electricity in her brain that protects her when she wants it too

Like even I've agreed to, Storm is RESISTANT to mind-control and things like that. However, all the mental preparation in the world could not defend her against a powerful psi-blast, ones that Emma can easily produce.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Like even I've agreed to, Storm is RESISTANT to mind-control and things like that. However, all the mental preparation in the world could not defend her against a powerful psi-blast, ones that Emma can easily produce.

and storm can easily pruduce lightning. either way it's going to be a double K.O. or storm winning. at the very beginning of the fight, storm summons lightning, emma shoots psi-bolt. now the bolt will definitley take emma out, but there's always the slight possibiity storm can stay consious.

Originally posted by stormfront13
Exodus and X, she states that she is going to fry storms brain during the fall. she does but was either A) unsuccessful, or B) it wasn't that affective since storm got right back up

No she doesn't...you clearly ignored...my post...again..

""Switch from DIAMOND to human form so my telepathy works...then back to diamond for the fall that follows AFTER I fry your brain."

She fried Storms brain before the fall....the fall follows after she fried Storms brain for an instant..and she goes back to Diamond during that fall. She even states this herself...and it's depicted by the Art.

And Storm doesn't get right back up....Emma gets up first....and hauls Storm up....then does a Behaviour Modification.

Originally posted by stormfront13
TK and TP are almost always too much for anyone if written correctly...however, i do think storm can defeat emma because in the scan, emma caught storm by suprise. in a straight up fight, there'd be nothing like that.

In a straight up KMC fight....Storm wouldn't even be able to initiate an attack.

Originally posted by stormfront13
she doesn't have to do anything, there is natural electricity in her brain that protects her when she wants it too

http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tempimage0wc3.jpg

Probing....

Originally posted by stormfront13
and storm can easily pruduce lightning. either way it's going to be a double K.O. or storm winning. at the very beginning of the fight, storm summons lightning, emma shoots psi-bolt. now the bolt will definitley take emma out, but there's always the slight possibiity storm can stay consious.

Telepathy works faster then Storms powers....so nope she won't be able to summon a bolt fast enough....

BTW Emma has taken a bolt of lightning from Storm on two occasions...and has never been knocked unconscious....she got straight up from both.

What's all this confusion over psi-bolts and such? It's EXTREMELY RARE that a TP in the MU tries to obliterate an opponent's mind. It's not because they can't, but because stories would be pointless, and Xavier, Jean, Emma, etc are heroes. Any TP with the skill and strength can. It all depends on their motivation. Emma and Storm have quite a history, and Emma likes to play with people. THAT'S why Storm got up. It had nothing to do with whether or not Emma could affect Storm, because she obviously can.

It comes down to intention, not ability.

i'm not sure if i'm right,it's be years that i haven't picked up an comic but if storm can still generate lighting from her finger tips i think she could kill emma or jean before they an react.those to my be able to make psi-bolt with ease but what are the chances of them thinking to use that as the first move

1) exodus, can you prove that emma didn't try and fry storms mind again? that's what i've been refering to the whole damned time lol

2) the scan proves nothing, storm allowed jean to enter her mind

3) emma isn't fast enough to take storm before strorm can think the word lightning, which is all it takes

3) storm wasn't out to kill emma those two occasions

Originally posted by stormfront13
[B]1) exodus, can you prove that emma didn't try and fry storms mind again? that's what i've been refering to the whole damned time lol

I already have....if you bothered to read the scans...

""Switch from DIAMOND to human form so my telepathy works...then back to diamond for the fall that follows AFTER I fry your brain."

She changed into Diamond when the fall followed...when did the fall occur...after she fried Storms brain....what's so hard to understand about that? The art and wording are so clear....

There is nothing....on panel that suggests anything of the sort...not the dialogue not even the art....

2) the scan proves nothing, storm allowed jean to enter her mind

Jean says that it creates a resistance to DEEPER PROBES...

And you're right it proves that Storm only has resistance to Probing since the scan specifically states probing...not a Psi Bolt....

3) emma isn't fast enough to take storm before strorm can think the word lightning, which is all it takes

Wrong...

Storm has to think to manipulate weather patterns to use her lightning...you keep on forgetting that....

All Emma needs to do is think.

3) storm wasn't out to kill emma those two occasions

Wrong again....Storm was out to KILL the first time....