Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
still can't storm hit her befor she go dimond form with her ligthing thats from her finger tips
Her attack isn't quick enough.
Storm still has to think in order to generate the lightning and then project and direct it from her hands plus she has to wait for the lightning bolt to make contact with the target.
All Emma needs to do is think and for ALL telepaths thought is action.
Storm = Thought + Action
Emma or any other Telepath = Thought is the Action
By the by ( abit off topic, but not really), doesn't it stand to reason that TPs think a bit faster than other humans? If you think about it, how else can Emma make a crowd of people orgasm between sentences, or Jean drive dozens of people to safety? They are often able to find memories buried in people's minds virtually instantly in the heat of combat. It's as though they function like Sage, but not as quickly.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
You can't counter his arguments, so you ignore him?Clearly, your debating skills are top-notch indeed. 👆
Clearly because insults are childish and i have no time for kidish games. Some people need to grow up. 🙄
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
My, my we are an arrogant fanboy noob. I really don't think someone purporting that Jean Grey can only ever use one of her powers to do one thing at a single time can tell anyone about not knowing enough about characters.And fascinating in lieu of any new counter argument, all those brought up prior having been easily refuted, you intend to ignore all the reasons that Jean Grey wins. Bravo.
See this proves my point that i'm arguing complete dumbass jackass smartasses.
I'm out of here
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Stop twisting what people are saying....a Brain Shut Down equals an instant win....a mind fry...is literally frying someones brain...it's like being shocked by electricity....a prolonged attack will fry you.[/B]
So a psi-attack from three telepaths had problem against Storm but Emma can do it herself.
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
And the best part is...it screws with your mental functions while the fry takes place...meaning the victim...is helpless...hence the reason why Storm went down....twice...[/B]
First time doesn’t count anymore, seeing that Storm has grown in power. Second time, Storm was shocked but it didn’t take her out.
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The same reason why Flash comics don't last one panel...to keep the comic interesting.(Plus it's Storms book)[/B]
Oh…so it’s Strom book and that the reason Emma could defeat her?
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Doesn't matter....Storm will be downed before she could use her powers.[/B]
Sigh…their thought system move at the same speed. Telepaths don’t have superhuman thought processing speed. Distance dose not equal processing speed.
Also you should keep in mind that Storm’s powers are always on, meaning that there very little lag time between thought and action. A good example actually comes from Black Panther 15, in which Storm feels fighter jets flying from miles away while in the middle of a conversation.
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Nope...it doesn't....you have to actually read the persons thoughts when communicating....[/B]
Correction….you have to read a person surface thought to communicate.
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The intention was to make it ring....and grab everyones attention...not to take her out..[/B]
So, she didn’t take her out?
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The scan with Colossus, Wolvey and Storm....[/B]
Who cares, that scan happened over 25 years ago. You keep bring it up like its some big revelation now. Storm and the X-Men have fought many other individuals with telepathic abilities and defeated them (This includes Emma). Also you should keep mind that several of the X-Men have upgraded their psi-protection.
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Communicate...see above....as for the attack...in that Psi-Bolt scan...Emma takes Storm out from a distance...not to mention entering her mind in X4 and making it ring.... [/B]
Could you scan the image please? Also correct me if I’m wrong but the X-Men where mutated even farther by cosmic rays in that story.
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Storm has show absolutely no resistance to having her mind shut down or fried... [/B]
When has Storm mind been shut down? Again don’t bring up a story that happened 25 years ago.
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I looked at it..and from the spelling of the entry....it doesn't look like it's been checked....in any event it states it even states it's an alternate reality...so it can't be used... [/B]
The point is that in the future it more likely that Storm will become a being of elemental energy. AAMOF, it already been said that Storm is a possible Omega mutant.
Also why the hell are we talking about this.
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Firstly no poles lying around in this fight....[/B]
Storm doesn’t need a pole to win.
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
And two Empty threat...since Storm didn't do anything...it' trash talk....perfectly smooth diamond having pressure points? Yeah right.[/B]
So perfectly smooth that her ass was shattered in New X-Men. Please don’t bring up that line from Danger, seeing that it was already proven that she could be shattered. IMHO, it just shows that Danger wasn’t a good gauge when it came to the powers of the X-Men.
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Because there is no victor...Emma doesn't surrender...she's not knocked out...and Storm doesn't show an ounce of proof that she could do what she says....hence the empty threat...[/B]
How was it an empty threat? Storm said she would shatter her ass and Emma made no comment. I’m pretty sure when Chris wrote that story it was not meant as an empty threat. AAMOF, how many times has Storm threaten somebody without having the power to back it up.
Also sorry about the lateness with this reply 🙁
[i]Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Storm = Thought + Action
Emma or any other Telepath = Thought is the Action
If thought did equal action then telepaths wouldn't have to mentally search for a person.
Originally posted by wiccan999Indeed.
My, ain't that calling the kettle black... Hypocrite much.
Originally posted by stormfront13Wow you must be reading a different comic than everyone else. A guide for the visually, mentally or otherwise impaired.
Exodus and X, she states that she is going to fry storms brain during the fall. she does but was either A) unsuccessful, or B) it wasn't that affective since storm got right back up
It's ten minutes to Wapner. You better get going.
Originally posted by inamilist
im sorry, can you please elaborate on this....it seems outlandish even for marvel....
Apparently Storm naturally generates electrical energy within her body, which cause telepaths damage if they tried to enter her mind without her permission.
Take note, this is Jean using Cerebra
Also…if where going to bring up some old stuff
Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
so ummm why were they fughting anyway
IIRC, Storm didn't come to fight, she was trying to help Emma and for reason Emma thought it was an attack.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
So a [b]psi-attack from three telepaths had problem against Storm but Emma can do it herself.
Mind Control...not Psi-Attack...the Skrull even talks about wills...Lilandra is mind controlled after that attack....
BTW Banshee resisted as well.
First time doesn’t count anymore, seeing that Storm has grown in power. Second time, Storm was shocked but it didn’t take her out.
Doesn't count?....It's suppose to be a natural resistance....
Sorry but you can't pick and choose...it happened Storm has shown no defence against that type of Telepathic attack.
It knocked her out of the sky....and it was for an instant...oh it does count....
Oh…so it’s Strom book and that the reason Emma could defeat her?
Pretty much....Storm didn't go down because it's her book....and because doing so....would mean Bogan won.
Sigh…their thought system move at the same speed. Telepaths don’t have superhuman thought processing speed. Distance dose not equal processing speed.Also you should keep in mind that Storm’s powers are always on, meaning that there very little lag time between thought and action. A good example actually comes from Black Panther 15, in which Storm feels fighter jets flying from miles away while in the middle of a conversation.
You don't get it do you..there is still a lag in her powers....thought may be the same...but the are summoned and connect at different speeds...telepathy is just quicker...
Correction….you have to read a person surface thought to communicate.
Either way....Emma's not going to be probing...she's going to be frying...
So, she didn’t take her out?
Not in X-4 but she....she made everyones mind ring..and stop fighting...
Who cares, that scan happened over 25 years ago. You keep bring it up like its some big revelation now. Storm and the X-Men have fought many other individuals with telepathic abilities and defeated them (This includes Emma). Also you should keep mind that several of the X-Men have upgraded their psi-protection.
They fought telepaths before...but Storm has been taken out by certain telepathic attacks....i.e. Mind Fry....
Her Psi-Protection didn't help her when Emma fried her mind in X-treme.
Could you scan the image please? Also correct me if I’m wrong but the X-Men where mutated even farther by cosmic rays in that story.
http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenfantasticfour012005teamdcppg15pa4.jpg
When has Storm mind been shut down? Again don’t bring up a story that happened 25 years ago.
25 years ago she didn't have any protection against a mind fry...and present day she still hasn't shown any protection against it....
The point is that in the future it more likely that Storm will become a being of elemental energy. AAMOF, it already been said that Storm is a possible Omega mutant.Also why the hell are we talking about this.
The point is it doesn't matter...because it hasn't happened it the 616 Universe.
I don't know you're the one who brought it up...
Storm doesn’t need a pole to win.
Umm...of course she doesn't...because she won't have a chance to pick up that pole..not that it would have worked.
So perfectly smooth that her ass was shattered in New X-Men. Please don’t bring up that line from Danger, seeing that it was already proven that she could be shattered. IMHO, it just shows that Danger wasn’t a good gauge when it came to the powers of the X-Men.
Ha...do you even know what Danger was? She was the Danger Room...she knew EVERYTHING about the X-Men....
How was it an empty threat? Storm said she would shatter her ass and Emma made no comment. I’m pretty sure when Chris wrote that story it was not meant as an empty threat. AAMOF, how many times has Storm threaten somebody without having the power to back it up.
Storm said? Magneto said he was undefeatable.....you're pretty sure? Can you back that statement up?
Storm is quite arrogant if you haven't noticed....and it's occured plenty of times...
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormvshumantorch45fm.jpg
Here's one....Winds have enough force to level mountains? 😕
If thought did equal action then telepaths wouldn't have to mentally search for a person.
Mentally sift throught the many mental signatures....if you don't know where the person is standing....
However if you're in an arena with one other person...you won't need to do that...
If they can see it other it doesn't make an difference. And if they can't see each other....then advantage to the telepath.
But that is completely off the point the attack connects and works at the speed of thought.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
[B]Apparently Storm naturally generates electrical energy within her body, which cause telepaths damage if they tried to enter her mind without her permission.
If it's natural to ALL mental attacks then why was Emma able to forcefully breach it so many times...Only deeper probing...Jean even states this.
Bogans Powers work on by Mind Control....
Again Probing
Also…if where going to bring up some old stuff
"I know your mind as well as my own...you cannot resist my telepathic assault"
Tell me what type of telepathic attack does that imply? Why would Emma say that?
And two...Emma wasn't knocked out by that lightning bolt...by a BLOODLUSTED Storm.
All you've shown is that she has resistance to probing and mind control...BUT she has been shown on panel to be effected by Psi Fries...which you overlook. Wolverine has that too you know....and and he's been downed before....heck he even has Level 9 telepathic blockers inserted into his head.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Apparently Storm naturally generates electrical energy within her body, which cause telepaths damage if they tried to enter her mind without her permission.
obviously im not going to argue with those types of panel feets....
but doesn't that kind of extend past the control of weather into the control of electromagnetic fields....
i know its a thin line, but really, not at all relevant to her powerset...
still, its obviously the way marvel wants it, even if curious
Originally posted by wiccan999
My, ain't that calling the kettle black... Hypocrite much.
Ok first of all they were the ones calling me names first in the first place. Does arrogant, fanboy, noob, delusional ring a bell just for stating a simple opinion on things? I suggest you refraise that statment because it's the kettle calling the pot black in this case. Your also following along in their footsteps, and i believe you are the scorner.
It also looks like i'm not the only one thinking like this
obviously im not going to argue with those types of panel feets....
but doesn't that kind of extend past the control of weather into the control of electromagnetic fields....i know its a thin line, but really, not at all relevant to her powerset...
still, its obviously the way marvel wants it, even if curious
Storm can create Electro Magnetic Fields, EMPs and electrical fields. They've already tapped into storm's electro magnetic powers so it is infact one of her powersets.
Originally posted by The Weather God
Storm can create Electro Magnetic Fields, EMPs and electrical fields. They've already tapped into storm's electro magnetic powers so it is infact one of her powersets.
im not saying it isnt
in fact in 4 lines, 2 were devoted to saying that
thats not weather control though. It just seems redundant to me for there to be any additional powers sort of slapped onto a character, especially one that fits a niche like that.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
One only really has the right to feel insulted when the observations levelled against them aren't true. 🙂Continued response, despite statement of the contrary, doesn't say much as to your self-control either.
Ignorerd 🙄
im not saying it isntin fact in 4 lines, 2 were devoted to saying that
thats not weather control though. It just seems redundant to me for there to be any additional powers sort of slapped onto a character, especially one that especially one that fits a niche like that.
Well there hasen't really been a weather controller in reality but storm wields her lightning from the earth's electro magnetic field, perhaps that would have something to do with it. Weather goes a long way for the very meaning of it, i think lightning can create emps if i'm not mistaken.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Much like all the argument for Jean Grey winning in this thread that you've failed to counter.
Same can be said about storm being able to counter pschic attacks. 🙄 Also there is no hard evidence that jean can defeat storm, for all i know storm has defeated, candra(tk), emma(telepath), and bogan(a powerful telepath). Funny how they diden't manage to fry her brain to death, blow her heart up or shut her mind down. Because hey she's still living and breating and ruling kenya 🙂
