Jean Grey vs. Storm

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
No it didn't your book is perfectly fine...it starts off by giving us the outline of Storms powers...she manipulates weather patterns which in turn creates a weather effect.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak It then asked the question how she manipulates these weather patterns...and came to the conclusion that she's a type of "telekinetic" who can manipulate these patterns in the atmosphere via a specialized form of telekinesis....which takes seconds to build up as stated in that article.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak The reason why the word atmokinesis wasn't used is because I don't think it's an actual word in the dictionary. It's just a word that came to be. It's the manipulation of the atmosphere to create meterological effects.

It's either telekenesis or atmokinesis make your choice, if its atmokinesis the book contradicted itself.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak It says before anyone PRESENT can react..and it also states blink of an eye.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak Emma studied Icemans powers very quickly and used them as if they were her own...the same in this case..until right at the end where she let her emotions get the best of her.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak Nope...Emma is a telepath..she's trained all her life with telepathy...it stands to reason that her reaction timeis heightened. Nevertheless...it's an Emma feat. I don't understand how emma frost amplified her speed of calling the weather, does she state this?

It's the manipulation of the atmosphere to create meterological effects.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak Your book is also an official marvel book....I it checked out. And see above it didn't contradict anything.

Ah but it did by you providing the scan wth her saying herself that she wasen't telekenetic. 😉

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There is no contradiction. The irony of first presenting a book as evidence, and then trying to deny the book as evidence when it no longer plays in favour of Storm. Storm manipulates weather. It has lag.

That was before i knew the book had contradicted

Originally posted by xmarksthespot Telepathy and telekinesis do not. Telepathy can inhibit Storm's powers and kill her before any of her atmospheric effects can be produced and directed. Telekinesis can kill her before any of her atmospheric effects can be produced and directed. Telekinesis can also protect Jean Grey before Storm can do anything, not that Jean needs the protection as she can kill Storm with her TK or TP before Storm can do anything.

So is it tk or ak? Looks like your not to sure yourself. The irony 🙄

Originally posted by The Weather God
That was before i knew the book had contradicted

So is it tk or ak? Looks like your not to sure yourself. The irony 🙄

"I only thought it was right when I thought the book could be used to support Storm."

Originally posted by The Weather God
It's not because you want storm to call weather in seconds 🙄

But storm says she's not telekenetic at all 😕

Yeah she's not..she's atmokinetic...which is what your article described they just did it the long winded way.

Atmokinesis is the the telekinesis of the atmosphere...which in turn manipulates weather patterns and creates meteorological effects.

It's either telekenesis or atmokinesis make your choice, if its atmokinesis the book contradicted itself.

Nope the telekinesis of the atmosphere is atmokinesis. Like the telekinesis of water is hydrokinesis...and fire pyrokinesis etc...

Present people in front of her can react, how fast is a blink of an eye?

Don't know....but it's talking about Wolverine, Nightcrawler etc who weren't exactly doing anything. It's still a blink of an eye. Telepathy and TK are quicker.

I'm affraid storm's power is alot more difficult then icemans, also by you saying that she let her emotions get the best of her, she diden't have very good of control as you say.

That's you're opinion...there's nothing that suggests otherwise. Nope I'm talking about right at the end...when she freaked out because she zapped Shaw instead...before that she was fine.

Still an Emma feat....anything else is just speculation.

Then why wasen't it put in the book if marvel haves it on they're official website? contradicted because it say's storm is a telekenetic and you say she haves Atmokinesis which is entirly different from telekenesis you say. 😉

See above...

Nope the telekinesis of the atmosphere is atmokinesis. Like the telekinesis of water is hydrokinesis...and fire pyrokinesis etc...

They said she uses a special type of telekinesis to manipulate the atmosphere. That is what atmokinesis means.

Ah but it did by you providing the scan wth her saying herself that she wasen't telekenetic. 😉

She's not...she's atmokinetic...which is a specialised form of telekinesis that only involves...meteorology.

She's not telekinetic like Jean...she has a specialised form of telekinesis which is atmokinesis which your article clearly describes.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
[B]"I only thought it was right when I thought the book could be used to support Storm."

Agreed... 😛

Let's wait and see when I get home if the book is actually the official word of Marvel. Which I read/heard that it wasn’t.

Until then you’re all forming your opinion on something that might have as much value to Marvel as a grain of salt.

Atmokinetic

GOD, you kids and your game booklets/games, thinking everything revolves around them.

Luckily Marvel has never fallen into that trap when it comes to Storm.🙂

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Let's wait and see when I get home if the book is actually the official word of Marvel. Which I read/heard that it wasn’t.

Until then you’re all forming your opinion on something that might have as much value to Marvel as a grain of salt.

Sounded pretty official from this post:

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Let it go, what you see now are people trying to counter a statement written inside an official document/comic. It is now pointless to keep arguing with them about that subject because we have something proving them wrong.

Give them time their minds will accept it one day. 😉

So how has your day been going?🙂

Now ExodusCloak and X, we can finally talk about Jean Vs Storm.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
[QUOTE=7763378]Originally posted by The Weather God
[B]From the book called science of the x-men

It clearly say's storm haves deep root telekinesis. It would have to be seeing that she manipulates weather on that scale.

Give them time their minds will accept it one day. 😉

So how has your day been going?🙂

Now ExodusCloak and X, we can finally talk about Jean Vs Storm. [/B][/QUOTE]"I only thought it was right when I thought the book could be used to support Storm."

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I only glanced over the book entry. It appears to descibe Storm as an atmokinetic, i.e. specialised telekinesis, but not direct and true telekinesis and therefore not a telekinetic, in agreement with this the book also describes the lag. Various specialised forms of telekinesis exist, pyrokinesis, cyrokinesis etc. they have basis in telekinesis, while not being telekinesis per se. The people who have these powers are not accurately described as true telekinetics.

"I only thought it was right when I thought the book could be used to support Storm."

You can blink in a half second(do it yourself)that book has contradicted itself by saying that storm can create in seconds, get my drift? Obviously i diden't see this in there or i woulden't have posted it in the first place. When the book says she calls it in seconds, where we have a real live comic book showing she just did it in a half second without emma frost, which was out far before that book was. 😕

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
"I only thought it was right when I thought the book could be used to support Storm."

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Originally posted by The Weather God
You can blink in a half second(do it yourself)that book has contradicted itself by saying that storm can create in seconds, get my drift? Obviously i diden't see this in there or i woulden't have posted it in the first place. When the book says she calls it in seconds, where we have a real live comic book showing she just did it in a half second without emma frost, which was out far before that book was. 😕

If you look back 5 pages...I already said that about the blink of an eye....but the point still stands it's still a lag.
Again the book hasn't contradicted itself.
And your Official article which is in fact newer and therefore better by your logic begs to differ.

BTW Blink of an eye is quite vague indeed. Not that it matters since it's still a lag.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Sounded pretty official from this post:

Well thank you, I try 😛

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
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If you look back 5 pages...I already said that about the blink of an eye....but the point still stands it's still a lag.
Again the book hasn't contradicted itself.
And your Official article which is in fact newer and therefore better by your logic begs to differ.

BTW Blink of an eye is quite vague indeed. Not that it matters since it's still a lag.

Luckily, she can do her stuff in a split-second

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Well thank you, I try 😛

Welcome...but deep down you and I both know what that meant. 😄

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Well thank you, I try 😛

Luckily, she can do her stuff in a split-second

Too bad it's still a lag...and your official marvel article seems to contradict this.

Blink of an eye..equals vague statement i.e. Swift as lightning.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
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If you look back 5 pages...I already said this....but the point still stands it's still a lag.
And your Official article which is in fact newer and therefore better by your logic begs to differ.

BTW Blink of an eye is quite vague indeed. Not that it matters since it's still a lag.

Contradicted 2/10 to 4/10 of a second, that is not a lag, i beileve it would take jean just as long to do whatever needs to be done. The book is wrong.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Welcome...but deep down you and I both know what that meant. 😄

Yeah, I'm going to tell the truth.🙂

Beside I really don't care about the book. IIRC, it has a number of errors in it. 🙁

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Well thank you, I try 😛

Luckily, she can do her stuff in a split-second

Not even a split second

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Yeah, I'm going to tell the truth.🙂

Beside I really don't care about the book. IIRC, it has a number of errors in it. 🙁

So why try and use it as evidence then? 😕 And why agree that it's a perfectally credible article?

Originally posted by The Weather God
Contradicted 2/10 to 4/10 of a second, that is not a lag, i beileve it would take jean just as long to do whatever needs to be done. The book is wrong.

Contradicted again? But by your logic newer is better...still doesn't make a difference...Atmokinesis has a lag. Jeans powers do not.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Luckily, she can do her stuff in a split-second

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
So why try and use it as evidence then? 😕 And why agree that it's a perfectally credible article?

Contradicted again? But by your logic newer is better...still doesn't make a difference...Atmokinesis has a lag. Jeans powers do not.

Again before i knew the book was so Contradictive. 🙄 Still that book goes in the trash because it's full of bull.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Again before i knew the book was so Contradictive. 🙄 Still that book goes in the trash because it's full of bull.

I was asking HoF... 😕 Look at who I quoted....

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I was asking HoF... 😕 Look at who I quoted....

Originally posted by The Weather God
Contradicted 2/10 to 4/10 of a second, that is not a lag, i beileve it would take jean just as long to do whatever needs to be done. The book is wrong.

it was quoted

The book doesen't even explain storm telepathic sheilding around her brain.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Originally posted by The Weather God
Contradicted 2/10 to 4/10 of a second, that is not a lag, i beileve it would take jean just as long to do whatever needs to be done. The book is wrong.

it was quoted

Yeah...that's the second quote...look at the first quote... the one where I asked the question you responded to .😕