Dude, guys, no! It took Anakin (by himself, Obi-Wan is gone already) 36 seconds to kill Dooku. Now Obi-Wan lasted for like five minutes against Anakin. Even if he knows Anakin truly and knows his moves, a lot of it has to come from Obi's skill. This is why since Dooku couldn't last against Skywalker for 36 seconds but Obi-Wan did for five minutes, then I would Dooku does kill Kenobi somewhere between at least forty seconds to 2 minutes.
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
Dude, guys, no! It took Anakin (by himself, Obi-Wan is gone already) 36 seconds to kill Dooku. Now Obi-Wan lasted for like five minutes against Anakin. Even if he knows Anakin truly and knows his moves, a lot of it has to come from Obi's skill. This is why since Dooku couldn't last against Skywalker for 36 seconds but Obi-Wan did for five minutes, then I would Dooku does kill Kenobi somewhere between at least forty seconds to 2 minutes.
It took five or so minutes for Obi-Wan to fight Anakin for several reasons:
1. Obi-Wan does indeed know Anakin's every move, his thoughts, how he reacts. While Anakin knows likewise, a fight with those conditions (preparation basically), would last longer than if neither combatant knew each other.
2. Obi-Wan's form is built for pure defense, hence he'll be able to withstand against the majority of duelists longer than others.
3. He constantly gave ground. He did not try and fight him head on. While this is, to me, considered "fighting smart" - Dooku didn't have this luxury because of the location of the fight versus Anakin.
4. After 1:30 (minutes) or near there, Obi-Wan resorted to tactics using the surroundings. I doubt very much if anyone could be killed whilst swinging around above a pool of lava, climbing towers, platform jumping and lava skating. This would also put a hinder in the time.
If it were the Invisible Hand, Obi-Wan wouldn't have lasted that long. The minutes would be severely decreased. Hell, if Obi-Wan didn't know Anakin, the time would more than likely be cut in half, even on Mustafar (Anakin probably would've won, as well).
In addition, Anakin [seemingly] couldn't overcome Obi-Wan with the Force, or rather, didn't attempt to except for when Obi-Wan initiated a pushing contest. Dooku, however, can easily terminate Kenobi with the Force.
Count Dooku has already fought Obi-Wan before, he knows his defense is near impenetrable. He witnessed this personally. Even if Tyranus initiates lightsaber combat, it won't be two minutes before Dooku realizes he can't overcome him that easily, ergo he will resort to using the Force like he did before. Which is why I submitted 40 seconds at the maximum. If you notice during AotC, Count Dooku would switch to a lightsaber duel once he comes to the realization that he cannot beat Yoda in the Force, likewise in RotS.
Tyranus often uses the Force during fights anyways. Against Sora, against Obi-Wan, and so on. By pure experience of battling Obi-Wan before, he knows his weakness is the Force. Count Dooku is a very intelligent, and adept fighter who would definitely exploit weaknesses in his opponent (see: RotS novel where he tries to use the weakness of a form to counter).
Obi-Wan and Anakin fought on a flat surface for 2 minutes 11 seconds. Dooku lasted 36 seconds against Skywalker. Now whatever much time knowing a person has to with us, I agree with you that half would be a good amount to cut it. This still makes Kenobi last longer. Of course, taking all things into consideration, I agree with you that it won't take two minutes.
Want to compromise for a time? You say forty seconds, I say 1 minute 5 seconds.
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
Obi-Wan and Anakin fought on a flat surface for 2 minutes 11 seconds. Dooku lasted 36 seconds against Skywalker. Now whatever much time knowing a person has to with us, I agree with you that half would be a good amount to cut it. This still makes Kenobi last longer. Of course, taking all things into consideration, I agree with you that it won't take two minutes.Want to compromise for a time? You say forty seconds, I say 1 minute 5 seconds.
Prodigal Knight, as being a veteran of this forum: I hereby advice you to: STFU. Advent and Escape(As I stalked them) are good debators, may even be in par with Faunus and Janus.
By calculating carefully, I found out the percentage of you winning is: 0.45214091294192%, and someone tells me its not good chance of winning.
Not to mention is TWO PROS against ONE.
P.S Remember how Dooku used a single force power to knock out Obi?(Took about 2 or 3 seconds no?) Imagine that and Dooku electricuting him to death. STARWARALITY!
😆 , your "veteran" experience is showing 🙄
FYI, I have debated with Advent before, three times to be exact, and I would say my track record is 0-2-1 (including this one, unless you want to call it a victory for yourself advent 🙂 (Win-Tie-Lose).
P.S Remember how Dooku used a single force power to knock out Obi?(Took about 2 or 3 seconds no?) Imagine that and Dooku electricuting him to death. STARWARALITY!
Obviously, if you read what I wrote earlier, you would notice I talked about this.
I'm not going to back down because I am debating against a pro. I'll fight on if I must.
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
😆 , your "veteran" experience is showing 🙄FYI, I have debated with Advent before, three times to be exact, and I would say my track record is 0-2-1 (including this one, unless you want to call it a victory for yourself advent 🙂 (Win-Tie-Lose).
Obviously, if you read what I wrote earlier, you would notice I talked about this.
I'm not going to back down because I am debating against a pro. I'll fight on if I must.
I'm a Veteran cause I was here for a looong time. But I refuse to debate because it leads to the 'dark side'. Seriously, you have NOTING. So question, 0-2-1, doesn't seem like a good record, its a Texan against the Colt.
P.S Your also going against Escape too, he has mad debating skillz!111
Originally posted by Noob_Krueger
I'm a Veteran cause I was here for a looong time. But I refuse to debate because it leads to the 'dark side'. Seriously, you have NOTING. So question, 0-2-1, doesn't seem like a good record, its a Texan against the Colt.P.S Your also going against Escape too, he has mad debating skillz!111
Shut up. You aren't a veteran. You're still a noob.