If one was to go by spidey's actual abilities
Which include
1. Class 20 strength (increases with stress) with added speed to create class 50 or stronger hits.
2. Superspeed and agility. Can become a blur or flash at times.
3. Super reflexes. Can see a 1000mph bullet traveling at 25mph.
4. Superstrong upgraded webbing. Can even slow the Hulk down for a few seconds.
5. Decent durability. Has taken blows from Juggs, Hulk, etc. and was still in battle.
6. Super stamina. Can go hours maybe days at peak performance without tiring.
7. Spider sense. Is actually precog. Spidey has dodged homing lasers (speed of light) with this. Note: It will be impossible for spidey to dodge light speed attacks without his spidersense because he can't actually move in the required speed (speed of light) to dodge them.
8. Very intelligent. He has beaten foes way more powerful than himself simply by using his brains.
With that said
Spidey with these abilities without compromise and inconsistency should win all on land (As he won't ever get hit).
Abilities 2, 3, and 7 are enough to ensure at least stalemate.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
^^ Nice stuff.And yes, he's gone toe-to-toe with people in Namor's class. It's not impossible.
But still unlikely, as much as I love Pete. Namor's got some enhanced reflexes too, and water or not he's well above Class 100.
I doubt it. As marvel doesn't think so
Added to the fact that just because he lifted over 100 tons doesn't make him class 100 or anyone else.
for example
spidey was class 10 when he lifted more than 40 tons several times.
cap was peak human 800lbs. when he lifted a few tons before.
and the list goes on
For a character to be at a certain class two things have to happen.
First, that character have to show this level of strength consistently throughout their career and second, marvel hq has to think so.
And it is not unlikely since spidey can't be hit by namor (If spidey is using the abilities listed in my above post).
Fully amphibious physiology suited for extreme pressures.-Not really needed. 😛
superhuman strength-This guy takes out Hulk in mere punches.
speed-Namor dodges lasers and people regularly.
durability-Oh, this guy doesn't take hits from Hulk and such?
Flight-A major advantage over Peter here.
Telepathic control over marine life-So yeah, maybe a whale will eat Peter or something.
electrical powers-Well electric shocks could stop Peter for a few seconds.
ages slowly-Yeah, so he will last longer.
😛
Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
Fully amphibious physiology suited for extreme pressures.-Not really needed. 😛
superhuman strength-This guy takes out Hulk in mere punches.
speed-Namor dodges lasers and people regularly.
durability-Oh, this guy doesn't take hits from Hulk and such?
Flight-A major advantage over Peter here.
Telepathic control over marine life-So yeah, maybe a whale will eat Peter or something.
electrical powers-Well electric shocks could stop Peter for a few seconds.
ages slowly-Yeah, so he will last longer.😛
Spider-sense - Spiderman won't be hit. Ever. Under any circumstance. In or out of a hostile scenario. Regardless.
Ever.
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What could spider-man possibly do to Namor?
even if we give him the speed advantage (which im not sure he has) Namor has taken hits that Spider-Man only dreams of throwing.
Spidey has fought peeps like juggs or hulk, and for the most part the story is filled with PIS or some CIS, where he is able to confine juggs in cement or calm down the hulk.
All that aside, Namor should be able to shrug off what spidey hits him with
Originally posted by inamilist
What could spider-man possibly do to Namor?even if we give him the speed advantage (which im not sure he has) Namor has taken hits that Spider-Man only dreams of throwing.
Spidey has fought peeps like juggs or hulk, and for the most part the story is filled with PIS or some CIS, where he is able to confine juggs in cement or calm down the hulk.
All that aside, Namor should be able to shrug off what spidey hits him with
Never judge a character's knockout power by their mere strength. Strength, speed, lack of give, and the right place is what makes knockout power. That is why cap, batman, and mantis can ko high class beings.
In kickboxing, the majority of the first hits and kicks don't even faze the other. But those spots do get tender after a while. But also with the same punches and kicks that didn't faze could as easily knock the other out if landed in the right places.
With that being said, spidey's speed definitely adds to his 20-50ton (under stress) strength thus causing him to hit much harder than his strength allows. Plus when Spidey's feet are connected to the ground when he punches it takes away the natural give he would have if he wasn't connected. This alone doubles his punching power (because the momentum is given twice-once from the punch and once from the reflection or lack of give). So under intense stress, Spidey can easily punch in the class 100 range.
Add that with the constant barrage of attacks he will land. And maybe, just maybe he would find the right spot or tenderize the wrong spot enough for a knockout.
Spidey is a bad boy indeed.
Originally posted by thedude1948
I stopped reading after "with added speed to create class 50 or stronger hits".
You read wrong.
I said his strength can go up to 50 tons under intense stres.
I said his speed adds to his attacking power. I didn't say how much though. I said his lack of give (feet attached to the ground) doubles his punching power. To understand this read a physics book on momentum or get back with me and I'll explain it in detail.
Thus under intense stress (strength elevates near class 50 or more) with his speed and lack of give can make him hit with class 100 power.
But this all doesn't matter since all spidey has to do is find the right spot like bats or mantis do. Or just wear the same old spots out.