namor vs. spiderman

Started by h1a88 pages

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Namor wins on land as well as on sea.

That theory of yours is nice h1a8, great to see some innovative thinking, but you are forgetting several crucial points.

First of all, you forget Namor's own speed. His speed feats are equal, in multiple cases, better to Spider-Man's. Spider-Man has the edge on dodging because of Spider-Sense, but if we go on pure speed feats, Namor has slight edge.

Now, whereas Spider-Man can dodge Namor for a long time because of his Spider-Sense, it will not help him on offensive. Namor is perfectly capable of dodging Spider-Man, doing other defensive stuff such as catching his fist, blocking his attacks with his wrist guards (like he has done to multiple fast attacks) or simply taking them for a while and waiting for the right moment to attack him.

Then there is Namor's own momentum, which already puts his amazing strength even to stronger point then it already is. Because of Namor's great hand speed that is easily equal to Spider-Man's, his added speed creates punching force that is thousands, probably hundreds of thousands times stronger then Spider-Man.

Namor has knocked out Hulk with pure strength, moved hundreds of thousands of tons with few punches, caused earthquakes that span islands, toppled the likes of Iron Man, Beta Ray Bill and Thor among other things. Spidey can take one punch, but it will leave him weakened. And slower. Every time Namor would land even one punch, he would have greater chance of landing one next time.

Then there is the flight advantage...Namor can fly around Spidey with multiple mach speeds and make him lose his concetration with that alone, punching him from every side.

And whereas Spidey is intelligent, Namor is much more experienced then he is when it comes to battle.

And honestly...Class 50 punches would take a long time to wear Namor out. Spidey would probably hurt himself more on the long run then he does to Namor.

flying speed is different than fighting speed. I doubt seriously that namor is fast as (or faster than spidey) or more agile or have the sheer reflexes that spidey has (Even though I agree he has some superhuman speed, reflexes, and agility).

You must show proof of that his fighting and reacting speed is comparable to spidey's.

Second, durability doesn't equal hardness of body. But toughness of body. For example, Hulk's flesh is extremely pliable but tough as hell. And spidey had no problems with his hands or feet attacking him.
Spidey will not hurt his hand hitting namor consistently.

But it only takes one hit in the right spot for namor to go down. Spidey has all day to find one. That's if namor isn't chicken and flys around all day to stalemate the fight.
Capt America with Mantis knowledge of pressure points can ko namor in one hit with his much smaller than spidey's strength.

Namor's punching power is not too much greater than spidey's (Even though this doesn't matter in this fight). If spidey was only 5 times stronger then he would equal namor in strength (in water) and still be faster. Thus at most namor's punching power is about 5 times that of spidey. Get that hundreds of thousands crap outer here. I can barely even lift .1 of a ton over my head yet I can punch with about 1600lbs. per square inch (I studied kung-fu for several years). This is a total of more than 4 tons for my entire fist (even though I only strike bags with my entire fist). So namor punching tons of stuff doesn't suprise me.

With the best of both their abilities. I see spidey either wearing him out with attacks or luckily finding a good spot on him. While dodging him, outmaneuriving him, webbing him (to distract), and doing plently of Maximum Spiders to him. While namor is swinging in the wind and desperately trying to grap him but is not fast enough to overcome spidey's sheer speed, reflexes, and most importantly his spider-sense.

...please read the Namor Respect Thread before DC tears out his hair in frustration... 😘

Originally posted by ShoopDaWhoop
...please read the Namor Respect Thread before DC tears out his hair in frustration... 😘

I've read several pages (not all). I didn't see anything that shows that my statements were wrong.

Originally posted by h1a8
With the best of both their abilities. I see spidey either wearing him out with attacks or luckily finding a good spot on him. While dodging him, outmaneuriving him, webbing him (to distract), and doing plently of Maximum Spiders to him. While namor is swinging in the wind and desperately trying to grap him but is not fast enough to overcome spidey's sheer speed, reflexes, and most importantly his spider-sense.

Maximum Spiders? Are you referencing the videogames that Spidey in which Spidey is a character?

...

You do know he can't just "Maximum Spider" in the comics, right? 😑

Originally posted by h1a8
flying speed is different than fighting speed. I doubt seriously that namor is fast as (or faster than spidey) or more agile or have the sheer reflexes that spidey has (Even though I agree he has some superhuman speed, reflexes, and agility).

...get ready to be proven wrong, then.

Here, Namor dodges attack of sound waves. Invisible to boot. Speed of the attack, as it is sound, is 760 MPH. Roughly the speed of normal bullet, but bigger and invisible. Remember, Namor does not have any kind of sensing ability, yet I'm going to show feats where he matches or exceeds most of Spidey's higher end feats.
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3664/namorfeat31lb.gif

On here, Namor catches two missiles with amazing ease. Missiles of that model go roughly with Mach 2.5 speed.
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/3176/namorefeat513dy.gif

Namor, surprised, dodges an bullet from point blank range.
http://img495.imageshack.us/img495/152/namorspeedfeat318vl.gif

Here, Namor is stated to move with the speed of thought.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5035/namorspeedfeat574pj.gif

Couple of shots of Namor dodging different laser beams and stuff.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/3396/namorspeedfeat476fb.gif
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/9686/namorspeedfeat361ma.gif
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8356/namorspeedfeat326rf.gif
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor48hw.gif
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor55gs.gif

Then there are couple of high end feats that I yet have seen Spider-Man match or exceed.

Namor shows off his sculpting skills and hand speed by giving a abandoned prison a new look in half a night.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6167/namorspeedfeat428zm.gif
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9169/namorspeedfeat439yt.gif

Jumps and reaches meteors (Meteors move with speeds of Mach 32-Mach 221.
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30614044285.jpg&s=x11
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30614061841.jpg&s=x11
http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat816ym.gif

Moves his hands with high speeds.
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/1905/namorspeedfeat339wr.gif

Then there are his countless swimming speed feats, who, because of his twists and turns, require hand and leg speed on Mach scale.

Originally posted by h1a8
You must show proof of that his fighting and reacting speed is comparable to spidey's.

Showed above. I can show some direct fight feats too if you wish.

Just because he doesn't jump around as much, doesn't mean that he doesn't have agility and speed.
http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/2339/namorfeat1243cq.gif

Originally posted by h1a8
Second, durability doesn't equal hardness of body. But toughness of body. For example, Hulk's flesh is extremely pliable but tough as hell. And spidey had no problems with his hands or feet attacking him. Spidey will not hurt his hand hitting namor consistently.

Actually, most of the times he does fight Hulk he hurts his hands.

Originally posted by h1a8
But it only takes one hit in the right spot for namor to go down. Spidey has all day to find one. That's if namor isn't chicken and flys around all day to stalemate the fight.

He actually has only few dozen seconds to find one before Namor connects a hit.

Originally posted by h1a8
Capt America with Mantis knowledge of pressure points can ko namor in one hit with his much smaller than spidey's strength.

And so he can do the same to Thor and the likes. Spider-Man, however doesn't know any kinds of pressure points, especially in Namor's body.

Originally posted by h1a8
Namor's punching power is not too much greater than spidey's (Even though this doesn't matter in this fight). If spidey was only 5 times stronger then he would equal namor in strength (in water) and still be faster. Thus at most namor's punching power is about 5 times that of spidey. Get that hundreds of thousands crap outer here. I can barely even lift .1 of a ton over my head yet I can punch with about 1600lbs. per square inch (I studied kung-fu for several years). This is a total of more than 4 tons for my entire fist (even though I only strike bags with my entire fist). So namor punching tons of stuff doesn't suprise me.

I'm sorry...but "Namor's punching power is not too much greater than spidey's" is probably one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2563/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3936/incrediblehulk118195ly.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9269/incrediblehulk118200el.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4384/incrediblehulk118211kg.jpg

Seriously, mate.

Originally posted by h1a8
With the best of both their abilities. I see spidey either wearing him out with attacks or luckily finding a good spot on him. While dodging him, outmaneuriving him, webbing him (to distract), and doing plently of Maximum Spiders to him. While namor is swinging in the wind and desperately trying to grap him but is not fast enough to overcome spidey's sheer speed, reflexes, and most importantly his spider-sense.

With the best of their abilities, Namor will hit Spidey in relatively short time. One hit from Namor might already be fatal, half a dozen will probably end the fight. The reason why Spidey usually works so well against bricks is his unmatchable speed.

Namor isn't Thing, Hulk, or Hercules. He's fast.

Spider-Man's best chance is to keep Namor out of the water long enough for Namor to start weakening. His best bet for doing that is to dodge and wisecrack, dodge and wisecrack (landing blows where possible), over and over til Namor gets superpissed and careless (ie, like not returning to the sea to recharge).

With this scenario, and also considering what a clever make-good-use-of-your-surroundings fighter Spidey is, I could see Spider-Man winning 4/10.

Re: namor vs. spiderman

Originally posted by hulk10
Their both a ton of muscle ,but if on land spidey would win, if in sea namor would kick butt.
Namor would pick Spidey apart every single time...

Namor 10/10

submariner

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...get ready to be proven wrong, then.

Here, Namor dodges attack of sound waves. Invisible to boot. Speed of the attack, as it is sound, is 760 MPH. Roughly the speed of normal bullet, but bigger and invisible. Remember, Namor does not have any kind of sensing ability, yet I'm going to show feats where he matches or exceeds most of Spidey's higher end feats.
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3664/namorfeat31lb.gif

On here, Namor catches two missiles with amazing ease. Missiles of that model go roughly with Mach 2.5 speed.
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/3176/namorefeat513dy.gif

Namor, surprised, dodges an bullet from point blank range.
http://img495.imageshack.us/img495/152/namorspeedfeat318vl.gif

Here, Namor is stated to move with the speed of thought.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5035/namorspeedfeat574pj.gif

Couple of shots of Namor dodging different laser beams and stuff.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/3396/namorspeedfeat476fb.gif
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/9686/namorspeedfeat361ma.gif
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8356/namorspeedfeat326rf.gif
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor48hw.gif
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor55gs.gif

Then there are couple of high end feats that I yet have seen Spider-Man match or exceed.

Namor shows off his sculpting skills and hand speed by giving a abandoned prison a new look in half a night.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6167/namorspeedfeat428zm.gif
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9169/namorspeedfeat439yt.gif

Jumps and reaches meteors (Meteors move with speeds of Mach 32-Mach 221.
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30614044285.jpg&s=x11
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30614061841.jpg&s=x11
http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat816ym.gif

Moves his hands with high speeds.
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/1905/namorspeedfeat339wr.gif

Then there are his countless swimming speed feats, who, because of his twists and turns, require hand and leg speed on Mach scale.

Showed above. I can show some direct fight feats too if you wish.

Just because he doesn't jump around as much, doesn't mean that he doesn't have agility and speed.
http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/2339/namorfeat1243cq.gif

Actually, most of the times he does fight Hulk he hurts his hands.

He actually has only few dozen seconds to find one before Namor connects a hit.

And so he can do the same to Thor and the likes. Spider-Man, however doesn't know any kinds of pressure points, especially in Namor's body.

I'm sorry...but "Namor's punching power is not too much greater than spidey's" is probably one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2563/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3936/incrediblehulk118195ly.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9269/incrediblehulk118200el.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4384/incrediblehulk118211kg.jpg

Seriously, mate.

With the best of their abilities, Namor will hit Spidey in relatively short time. One hit from Namor might already be fatal, half a dozen will probably end the fight. The reason why Spidey usually works so well against bricks is his unmatchable speed.

Namor isn't Thing, Hulk, or Hercules. He's fast.

Quoted for truth. Cosigned. Damn right.

Et cetera.

Namor rips him in half.

Spiderman is stronger, faster and more agile than Daredevil, yet DD manages to hang in there with Spidey when they tussle. Why? Because with his "radar sense," he can anticipate opponents' moves.

(Personally, that borders on PIS for me, but anyway...)

Similarly: Namor is stronger and faster than Spiderman, yet Spiderman ought to be able to make a good showing because of his precog "spider sense." Couple that with one more thing Namor really doesn't manifest in his fighting style: finesse. Not that he isn't skilled, but he is closer to being a brick than Spidey is. Spiderman's warning sense and agility can make him a very tough nut to hit, even if the foe is physically faster.

I still say, in a street fight, with a drying Namor, Spiderman has a 30-40% chance. Perhaps it would be better to say, Namor is not immune to defeat by the bug.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...get ready to be proven wrong, then.

Here, Namor dodges attack of sound waves. Invisible to boot. Speed of the attack, as it is sound, is 760 MPH. Roughly the speed of normal bullet, but bigger and invisible. Remember, Namor does not have any kind of sensing ability, yet I'm going to show feats where he matches or exceeds most of Spidey's higher end feats.
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3664/namorfeat31lb.gif

On here, Namor catches two missiles with amazing ease. Missiles of that model go roughly with Mach 2.5 speed.
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/3176/namorefeat513dy.gif

Namor, surprised, dodges an bullet from point blank range.
http://img495.imageshack.us/img495/152/namorspeedfeat318vl.gif

Here, Namor is stated to move with the speed of thought.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5035/namorspeedfeat574pj.gif

Couple of shots of Namor dodging different laser beams and stuff.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/3396/namorspeedfeat476fb.gif
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/9686/namorspeedfeat361ma.gif
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8356/namorspeedfeat326rf.gif
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor48hw.gif
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor55gs.gif

Then there are couple of high end feats that I yet have seen Spider-Man match or exceed.

Namor shows off his sculpting skills and hand speed by giving a abandoned prison a new look in half a night.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6167/namorspeedfeat428zm.gif
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9169/namorspeedfeat439yt.gif

Jumps and reaches meteors (Meteors move with speeds of Mach 32-Mach 221.
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30614044285.jpg&s=x11
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30614061841.jpg&s=x11
http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorfeat816ym.gif

Moves his hands with high speeds.
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/1905/namorspeedfeat339wr.gif

Then there are his countless swimming speed feats, who, because of his twists and turns, require hand and leg speed on Mach scale.

Showed above. I can show some direct fight feats too if you wish.

Just because he doesn't jump around as much, doesn't mean that he doesn't have agility and speed.
http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/2339/namorfeat1243cq.gif

Actually, most of the times he does fight Hulk he hurts his hands.

He actually has only few dozen seconds to find one before Namor connects a hit.

And so he can do the same to Thor and the likes. Spider-Man, however doesn't know any kinds of pressure points, especially in Namor's body.

I'm sorry...but "Namor's punching power is not too much greater than spidey's" is probably one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2563/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3936/incrediblehulk118195ly.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9269/incrediblehulk118200el.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4384/incrediblehulk118211kg.jpg

Seriously, mate.

With the best of their abilities, Namor will hit Spidey in relatively short time. One hit from Namor might already be fatal, half a dozen will probably end the fight. The reason why Spidey usually works so well against bricks is his unmatchable speed.

Namor isn't Thing, Hulk, or Hercules. He's fast.

OUCH.

Originally posted by h1a8
on land spidey 10/10
please read my previous posts and argue against them.

hystericalhystericalhysterical

Oh god oh god hysterical

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...get ready to be proven wrong, then.

Nope not really.

Then there are his countless swimming speed feats, who, because of his twists and turns, require hand and leg speed on Mach scale.

How do you know how fast he must move his arms and legs in order to swim 60mph. He could be using his flying ability (or ankle wings) to aid in his swimming.

Actually, most of the times he does fight Hulk he hurts his hands.

Spiderman to the best of his abilities won't hurt his hands hitting Hulk.
Or namor either (since he has tagged him good several times).

He actually has only few dozen seconds to find one before Namor connects a hit.

Why is that? With spidey's precog spider-sense I don't see namor laying a finger on him. Remember spidey can dodge light. Spider should be able to hit him any amount of times if namor stays in range.

I'm sorry...but "Namor's punching power is not too much greater than spidey's" is probably one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2563/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3936/incrediblehulk118195ly.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9269/incrediblehulk118200el.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4384/incrediblehulk118211kg.jpg

I can lift roughly 200lbs (or .1 of a ton) over my head yet can punch with 4 tons of force with my entire fist. Multiply that by 1000 (which is namor's max strength) and I can probably hit Hulk the same way Namor did (since Hulk only weighs roughly .5 tons). Plus that is PIS since Thor, who with his severe might and who is a lot stronger than namor, hit Hulk with his hammer (more devasting force than mere his fists) and never ever one hit him like that to make him unconscience.

With the best of their abilities, Namor will hit Spidey in relatively short time. One hit from Namor might already be fatal, half a dozen will probably end the fight.
QUOTE]

With the best of their abilities, Namor won't hit Spidey (spider-sense remember). And one hit from Namor won't be fatal, as Spidey's taken hits from Hulk (who is stronger) and others.

[QUOTE]http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/...morfeat31lb.gif


That scan either is PIS or he saw someone about to fire upon him and used evasive action.
How could he see sound before it gets there? Since light passes right through sound (0% bouncing back) and thus cannot be seen by anyone.

http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/...refeat513dy.gif

He seen the missle coming miles away and not from point blank range. But impressive nonetheless.

http://img495.imageshack.us/img495/...edfeat318vl.gif

He saw the guy raise the gun to fire and evaded. He didn't dodge after the fire.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/...edfeat574pj.gif

Speed of thought is 30m/s or 67.1mph

1. http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/...edfeat476fb.gif
2. http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/...edfeat361ma.gif
3. http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/...edfeat326rf.gif
4. http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?...arnamor48hw.gif
5. http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?...arnamor55gs.gif

1. He raises his finger to fire and then namor evades before the fire (prove me wrong).
2. Using evasive action again because of the threat.
3. No dodging here. Just using his body as a shield. Impressive though.
4. Again no dodging there. Looks like WM misses and Namor is suprised.
5. And again no dodging. Just missing (which is PIS).

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/...edfeat428zm.gif
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/...edfeat439yt.gif

Yes he has some superhuman speed. But using it there for a moment tired him out.
Spiderman can do the same, but with the added moving around and not getting tired so fast.

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http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?...orfeat816ym.gif

The first 2 scans aren't working. The last scan shows that the meteors aren't moving mach anything (seem to be moving less than speed of sound). Writers in the past knew almost no science. That is why they showed many feats that exceeds a character's abilities. Most don't even know how much different objects weigh or the actual speed of certain things. They just know that they are very heavy or very fast and that they want to sell comics. That is why it is important for marvel themselves to think so along with being statistically consistent in a character's career.

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/...edfeat339wr.gif

I never said he wasn't fast. But not as fast as spidey.
In that scan there is no other motion, relative to him, to guage actually how fast he is moving his hands. Even though that doesn't matter since Spidey has dodged faster stuff (like light) with his spider sense.

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/...rfeat1243cq.gif

Decent agility. Looks like a regular human gymnast. Maybe cap's level of agility tops.
No where near spidey's though (in which can make that scan look like child's play and can balance himself in any position-even on his pinky).

Good try though. My knowledge of Namor has definitely increased. And I'm starting to like him very much.

Thanks!

1. Spiderman does not dodge light... even captain america tagged spiderman, and had him buckling over from just 3 hits. Notice that in the civil war comic it was spiderman thinking it, not saying it like he usually does to throw his enemies off. He was actually very hurt.

2. Namor is the kind of enemy who when he's pissed, takes on the entire fantastic four.

venom screwed spiderman over. Even a recent villain "killed" peter parker. You act like spiderman's never been laid out before. And namors gonna be the one who can do it. He isn't going to be jobbing like firelord. The avenging son is gonna put your pet arachnid in a hole in the ground 7 feet deep. Understand? 7... feet... deep...

Originally posted by rotiart
1. Spiderman does not dodge light... even captain america tagged spiderman, and had him buckling over from just 3 hits. Notice that in the civil war comic it was spiderman thinking it, not saying it like he usually does to throw his enemies off. He was actually very hurt.

2. Namor is the kind of enemy who when he's pissed, takes on the entire fantastic four.

venom screwed spiderman over. Even a recent villain "killed" peter parker. You act like spiderman's never been laid out before. And namors gonna be the one who can do it. He isn't going to be jobbing like firelord. The avenging son is gonna put your pet arachnid in a hole in the ground 7 feet deep. Understand? 7... feet... deep...

Spiderman getting hit is not him using the best of his abilities (forum rules). Him dodging light is him using the best of his abilities (forum rules). Spiderman being hurt by cap is him not using the best of his abilities (forum rules). Spiderman taking hits from Hulk is him using the best of his abilities (forum rules).Spidey's spider sense don't work on Venom.

bull. forum rules eh?

No SvFL

Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities. For example, Spiderman defeating a herald of Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however, Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has done so frequently under different writers.
For standard debates, feats considered to fall under the SvFL exemption are not valid. Likewise, examples of writing which go against firmly set canon are also ignored. For example, in Larry Hama's run of Batman and Grell's run of Iron Man, both characters were out of character and did things very much against established canon; therefore those runs are disregarded.

you want to look for little loopholes, you better learn to interpret the damn rules right.

Originally posted by h1a8
Spiderman getting hit is not him using the best of his abilities (forum rules). Him dodging light is him using the best of his abilities (forum rules). Spiderman being hurt by cap is him not using the best of his abilities (forum rules). Spiderman taking hits from Hulk is him using the best of his abilities (forum rules).Spidey's spider sense don't work on Venom.

Explain to me how Thor using a shield is SMvFL, but Spider-Man dodging light is using him to the best of his abilities.

Originally posted by Accel
Explain to me how Thor using a shield is SMvFL, but Spider-Man dodging light is using him to the best of his abilities.

Because he has done so, many times and through his career.
And Because is spider sense is precog. That means he knows an attack before it is launch and in which his spider sense guides him out of the way. Trust me, I know that Spidey is not fast enough to dodge most of things that he does. Hell, without his spider sense (which is his most important power) then namor wins 10/10 no questions asked.

But that spider sense being precog is a hell of a thing.
And its his only chance to survive this fight.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because he has done so, many times.
And Because is spider sense is precog. That means he knows an attack before it is launch and in which his spider sense guides him to get out of the way. Trust me, I know that Spidey is not fast enough to dodge most of things that he does. Hell, without his spider sense (which is his most important power) then namor wins 10/10 no questions asked.

But that spider sense being precog is a hell of a thing.

Show me spiderman dodging Light. Repeatedly. I'll acknowledge bullets... even some badly thrown lightning blasts... but spiderman still gets tagger by electro, dr. octopus, mysterio...sandman...

Originally posted by h1a8
Because he has done so, many times and through his career.
And Because is spider sense is precog. That means he knows an attack before it is launch and in which his spider sense guides him to get out of the way. Trust me, I know that Spidey is not fast enough to dodge most of things that he does. Hell, without his spider sense (which is his most important power) then namor wins 10/10 no questions asked.

But that spider sense being precog is a hell of a thing.

spiderman has not dodged "light" many times... thats 186,000 miles per second...

he's rated at a speed of 4 out of 7... on the old comic cards i used to have...