which is why, if we ever finish a certain project looming but nearly finished, we should mess with writing a POTC 4 that follows the events of 3. could be fun, definitely might help certain bummed fangirls (cough, me, cough) like AWE better and get through this semester. 😉
hugs and rum. good thing you are all sensible, cause i sure aint. haha.
Miz WilloftheWisp, as you wish, we have pax and thank you for your kindness. It is too good a day for anything less.
Interesting to think upon, stands to reason Jack's going to work the program of how he can get the most for his efforts. Going to Elisabeth as the Pirate King would definitely benefit him, surely the codes address someone repeatedly stealing your ship. Just becos he has the chart doesn't mean he's moving immediately in that direction, in fact, the chart probably provides excellent leverage for Barbossa's return to work an accord with Jack. I really wish Barbossa would stop doing the mean thing. Jack risked to have the Pearl raised, he forged the debt to Davy Jones. Interesting, much more plausible, besides I don't suppose Jack would move in a straight forward direction to his goals even if it would serve him well. He "crabs" towards his goals, appearing to move away, then there he is.
Yeah, we could talk about that and get it in pre-production phase, to sound like a pro. You want to have Liz somehow get with Jack and yet not condemn Will to the life he's been temporarily condemned to? That's my stipulation. I want Will freed eventually. Maybe they can find a loophole. Or...do you want Jack to meet someone else? Or have it not be sparrabeth....just writing out loud here....there are a lot of possibilities. AWE closed nothing to me and I did not get a sense of finality.
yeah, ditto ditto ditto.
hmm.... might be interesting to not have sparrabeth, but then, we did one of those once... right? with norribeth?
if we do tread into the territory of Jack and Liz whilst maintaining Liz's commitment to Will (and Will's child... unless we want to twist that one and have the child come from somewhere else...? i'm talking an adoption/relation of some kind, not wedlock) we'd have to put out some very clear specifications early on of what will or won't break the commitment and condemn Will, just so we know what lines to avoid crossing. either way, the end of AWE pretty much insinuates Will and Liz's ultimate reunion, unless it really is just "one day" and then Will's back out of her life again.
even if Jack and Liz aren't romantically involved, i reckon there will be plenty of drama, tension, good fun between them.
i'm not convinced i could come up with any more heroines worthy of the infamous jack sparrow... but then, you and surreal may have plenty of heroines for the creating.
i'm just rambling and cluttering up the thread now, sorry... WIllo, it's really up to you whether to pursue sparrabeth or what. maybe we just start messing around, adding some new characters, and see what happens. what do you think?
Originally posted by texgodiva2s
[B]Parlay?! 😑"I'm going to assume that because i have been talking smack about a Manipulative Whelpabether lately (who is no one in particular... that I know of) that this comment was directed towards me!"
Miz darlin' PiDiva, Didn't really notice ya had been but if you say you have been, okay, already told you I want you on my side in a set to--I don't think the comments I made were post specific to anyone, just a general observation that Sparrabethers seem really dedicated (Crusaders).
You have assummed twice PiDiva--I assume nothing...makes that critter outta you and me. Your statement that you are a die hard Sparrabether supports my statement that you are dedicated to your ship, ie. Crusader. News? Hardly, it's the Sparrabeth site.
One truth, well stated I say, Jack --Pearl= a very 🙁 Jack. I do believe I read that correctly.
Accord?, load the cannons?, pax?--what heading do I set? If desired, I can surely curtsy deeply, raise my fan to my face, and beg sweet pardon for any supposed offense which might have been wrung from my rather quiet post. Not my first choice, however, your forum, your call. I asked for parlay--what exactly are the terms for accord? since I am loathe to give up something that usually provides pleasure. [/B]
ok so i misunderstood ur Crusader remark....just seemed that the context u were using it in was of the Bashing tone! My bad, cause Yes I am DEDICATED!
You see before AWE came out, a lot of online battles broke out because Wilabethers attacked Sparrabethers and vice versa! This forum nearly died because of that, but then the Willabeth Thread was born and it became sort of an anger control tool for this forum because Willabethers stayed on their thread and Sparrabethers stayed in this thread! Kind of like gangs (which sounds funny to me, but it's true) they each stay in their turf and defend it when it gets invaded! and so far it's been working beautifully, no one invades anyone!!
So even though i misunderstood your remark the rest of ur comment was still pretty harsh, and u cant expect to post a comment like that on the Sparrabeth thread and expect us CRUSADER's😂 not to defend our beliefs.
Texgodiva I think what offended me more was the fact that I actually like u, and to see that comment was kind of like WTF? betrayal of some sorts I guess (even if those were not ur intentions, it sounded that way)...lol So yes we have an accord and the terms are simple....u have something bad to say about Sparrabeth, just keep it in the Willabeth Thread, where us Sparrabethers can't see it! 🙂
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^^^ There it is 😄
Imperial PiDiva, I too like you, you have caused me to laugh so hard with your droll comments that I've fallen out of my chair. I have nothing bad to say about Sparrabeth, hell, when I saw DMC, I bored my two best girlfriends for the better part of an hour trying explain (as if I could) the kiss and the subsequent statement--Pirate--and exactly how he looked when he realized and exactly his face and lips when he said such to her. I don't come here fuss with anyone. I come here for the joy of communication, the joyous play with words about a topic to which I am addicted. I revel in being surrounded by bright people--it's fun. My home region isn't exactly a hotbed of intellectuals.
I have only this as my agenda, enjoy, live and let live--I don't always agree with everything everyone has to say--that's not what logging on is about. We all have the right to say our opinions as long as it doesn't harm babies, animals, or old people.
ImPiDiva, terms of the accord are reasonable for both parties, sez I, with this one addition. Ask please if I have a clue where my foot is, it'll be our code. I respect you and the other members in this place (not sure what to call it--my other living room). As I said, I am loathe to give up a temporal pleasure and this is one of my faves. I need to be inspired at the other side of my life from where most of y'all are. I now have new goals for an older. I love love love having a crush on someone, turns out it's this mostly nice quite interesting brown eyed man born less than 100 miles from my house, living on another continent--crushes don't have to make sense even at my age, they just have to be. And then I get to talk with a woman who sang a siren song to him through a crowd of people and you brought him past all the others to yourself. Go figure--wouldn't you say it's a pretty cool world in which I live?! Life too short. We have accord and thank the stars for it--it is a treasure rare.
Originally posted by savvysparrowluv
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^^^ There it is 😄
Thanks Mate!!! 😄
"yeah, ditto ditto ditto.
hmm.... might be interesting to not have sparrabeth, but then, we did one of those once... right? with norribeth?
if we do tread into the territory of Jack and Liz whilst maintaining Liz's commitment to Will (and Will's child... unless we want to twist that one and have the child come from somewhere else...? i'm talking an adoption/relation of some kind, not wedlock) we'd have to put out some very clear specifications early on of what will or won't break the commitment and condemn Will, just so we know what lines to avoid crossing. either way, the end of AWE pretty much insinuates Will and Liz's ultimate reunion, unless it really is just "one day" and then Will's back out of her life again.
even if Jack and Liz aren't romantically involved, i reckon there will be plenty of drama, tension, good fun between them.
i'm not convinced i could come up with any more heroines worthy of the infamous jack sparrow... but then, you and surreal may have plenty of heroines for the creating.
i'm just rambling and cluttering up the thread now, sorry... WIllo, it's really up to you whether to pursue sparrabeth or what. maybe we just start messing around, adding some new characters, and see what happens. what do you think?"-----Kate
That was a question I always had about the curse. Does Elizabeth just have to be faithful to him physically? What happens if she falls in love with someone else, but decides she's going to stick with Will? The committment should be considered faithful, but at the same time, she's had an affair with him in her mind. Or does she just have to be there the day he comes back? We'll brainstorm the actual rules and figure out who is who and then we can play around.
Originally posted by LovelyOne
even though I'm not obsessed with POTC as I was back when DMC was out....I'm still mad at T&T and everyone who had a hand in not allowing Sparrabeth to happen..I wouldn't care about sparrabeth not happening if they didn't have that flipping kiss at the end of DMC...heck I probably wouldn't be so mad if they didn't make it look as if she still wanted him after that kiss (when she goes to kiss him again) they pretended it didn't even happen in movie 3...what the?
yes, I have to agree with every word you say, Lovelyone....gosh, last year at this time we were posting 10 plus times a day and now.....you, once every few weeks, me...once every other day or so......
Originally posted by texgodiva2s
[B]Parlay?! 😑"So don't tell me I have no respect for people of another ship or for the people that decided who the "couple" was going to be."
Not even a vague possibility Miz WilloftheWisp--I put no words in other people's mouths, too busy getting my foot in mine you see. Also, I am now a bit surprized that you would attribute motive to me, evidence of which does not exist in my post. There is not a snowball's chance in an oven I believe any one of the unique spirits posting here to be the same as, or even similar to the others. Let me rephrase, I believe we are alive, we like PotC, and we are extremely capable of lively thought, in that we are similar. I am sad you heard such offense where none was intended. I have not nor will I ever try to tell anyone how to live what's given to them. Life's way too short for that useless activity.
"I'm going to assume that because i have been talking smack about a Manipulative Whelpabether lately (who is no one in particular... that I know of) that this comment was directed towards me!"
Miz darlin' PiDiva, Didn't really notice ya had been but if you say you have been, okay, already told you I want you on my side in a set to--I don't think the comments I made were post specific to anyone, just a general observation that Sparrabethers seem really dedicated (Crusaders).
You have assummed twice PiDiva--I assume nothing...makes that critter outta you and me. Your statement that you are a die hard Sparrabether supports my statement that you are dedicated to your ship, ie. Crusader. News? Hardly, it's the Sparrabeth site.
One truth, well stated I say, Jack --Pearl= a very 🙁 Jack. I do believe I read that correctly.
Accord?, load the cannons?, pax?--what heading do I set? If desired, I can surely curtsy deeply, raise my fan to my face, and beg sweet pardon for any supposed offense which might have been wrung from my rather quiet post. Not my first choice, however, your forum, your call. I asked for parlay--what exactly are the terms for accord? since I am loathe to give up something that usually provides pleasure. [/B]
Sorry, luv...didn't mean to be rude...yikes, I sounded horrible. You've been nothing but polite...i was just having one of those bad moments.
In America, we have freedom of speech, so say what you will....it's fine. Just remember this is a sparrabeth thread...so don't do like someone else that has posted on here in the past and tell us how silly and wrong we were for thinking that Jack and liz could ever be together...because in the heart of Sparrabethers......Liz and Jack belong together and there is no convincing us otherwise...
Originally posted by texgodiva2s
Miz Kate, I truly understand the grieving process. I am grieving the hope and joy of looking forward to the next one. Feels like my best friend moved away.I agree with you about Barbossa, didn't much care for him at first, but now the old man's looking pretty interesting. And darling Mr. Gibbs, what a hoot. I appreciate your kind words, I am sad you feel the loss so strongly (this from a person who was trying to figure out how to run over myself with my car after the end of AWE)--I was beyond pure D bummed out--I thought everybody got burned.
[b]this is the Sparrabeth thread...and we are allowed to bash will and liz as a couple if we so choose...so if you don't like it, then don't visit
I am well aware of where I post, Miz Lovethemtigers, and to my knowledge I didn't say one word about bashing or not bashing will and liz, nor would I. If I didn't want to read this I wouldn't open this section, that goes without saying.I like reading here, I love to know what lively twists other people see. You have excellent ability to think and express yourself--I like knowing something different, makes my world more better, fuller, with lots of interesting flavors.
I expressed my opinion, at least that's what I believed those little letters IMO meant. I didn't even say I think it's wrong or awful or bad or whatever that this might be the prevailing thread because that is not my place --I was identifying my opinion. I like playing here, it's fun to see what our creative loving natures will explore. Yes,I do perceive your if, then statement as harsh.
I can only offer what I wrote previously, if you desire a deep curtsy, full on fan waving, sweet pardon asked, then please, let me know. Life's too short to allow disharmony over this. I am sad you found offense where none was intended. After this, I can only ask about terms for accord, pax, or load the cannons. Please accept one truth about me, I am so much more the lover than the fighter. [/B]
sorry for the triple posts...but I'm sorry I was so mean and hateful to you dear Texi....I apologize....I'm very defensive when it comes to Sparrabeth, and I guess I just took it the wrong way the first time I read it....again, Please accept my apology and lets continue with our discussions......
Originally posted by willofthewispThat was a question I always had about the curse. Does Elizabeth just have to be faithful to him physically? What happens if she falls in love with someone else, but decides she's going to stick with Will? The committment should be considered faithful, but at the same time, she's had an affair with him in her mind. Or does she just have to be there the day he comes back? We'll brainstorm the actual rules and figure out who is who and then we can play around.
yeah, one little plot hole never fully explained. maybe we should pester T and T for an answer on their site and see if we get more of an explanation. because some people are convinced she just has to be there waiting that day he comes back, other people are convinced she has to pretty much stay true to him mind, body, etc, whilst he is away.
of course, there's always the question of, what happens when Will comes back? Some people say (and the movie insinuates) that the one day every ten years is pretty much stable... she'll get to see him for one day, and then he'll go away again for another ten years, and on and on. That's what the movie says. But I thought I heard somewhere that T and T wanted us to think the curse would be broken after ten years and Will would be free to remain with Elizabeth after that. Now, that's a much happier outlook for everyone, but it is very much contradicted by the film itself.
I read that they regretted not writing the line "after 10 years" instead of "every 10 years". So if they ever make POTC4 and if they manage to involve Keira their course will be Willabeth after 10 years...
However AWE states it clear : "every 10 years" , no chance for Willabeth ending according to this movie. 😉
Originally posted by willofthewisp
"yeah, ditto ditto ditto.
hmm.... might be interesting to not have sparrabeth, but then, we did one of those once... right? with norribeth?
if we do tread into the territory of Jack and Liz whilst maintaining Liz's commitment to Will (and Will's child... unless we want to twist that one and have the child come from somewhere else...? i'm talking an adoption/relation of some kind, not wedlock) we'd have to put out some very clear specifications early on of what will or won't break the commitment and condemn Will, just so we know what lines to avoid crossing. either way, the end of AWE pretty much insinuates Will and Liz's ultimate reunion, unless it really is just "one day" and then Will's back out of her life again.
even if Jack and Liz aren't romantically involved, i reckon there will be plenty of drama, tension, good fun between them.
i'm not convinced i could come up with any more heroines worthy of the infamous jack sparrow... but then, you and surreal may have plenty of heroines for the creating.
i'm just rambling and cluttering up the thread now, sorry... WIllo, it's really up to you whether to pursue sparrabeth or what. maybe we just start messing around, adding some new characters, and see what happens. what do you think?"-----KateThat was a question I always had about the curse. Does Elizabeth just have to be faithful to him physically? What happens if she falls in love with someone else, but decides she's going to stick with Will? The committment should be considered faithful, but at the same time, she's had an affair with him in her mind. Or does she just have to be there the day he comes back? We'll brainstorm the actual rules and figure out who is who and then we can play around.
Seems to me Will's Curse is as debateable as how Jack's Compass works...lol!
I had heard that officially, Elizabeth's fidelity will free Will after his first 10 years are up and he will be able to be with her. Of course, that's never stated in the movie and I talked about it with my mom the next day after we saw it and she said the movie implied that it was one day every ten years. I'd much rather it be willabeth after 10 years. At least that way they'll be happy and it's like The Odyssey. The other way is just too unhappy and tragic, especially for people as heroic as Will and Liz. I'm sure even Jack would miss having Will around.