Originally posted by Robtard
"Hunted Down"... You're being a bit melodramatic here... With the millions of illegal aliens in California alone and the hundreds that come over each and every day, I do not think they are being "hunted down" like game animals.Glad to hear you don't believe in an 'Open Door' policy as that would/could ruin a country, any country. Immigration is legal, people migrant to others countries every second of every day and no one has a problem with it when it is done legally.
Hey, your police may suck, but the people live in fear anyways.
Of course an open door policy would not ruin a country, though I do believe that a society has some right to choose who it wants. Though I also don't believe that being born in a country should entitle you to have life long citizenship.
Originally posted by Soleran
Haha save your drama for someone else.No one's saying they cannot come to America and benefit from the current system as long as they do it legally.
And I am saying it is to hard to do. It's not like you'd let all the Mexicans in, Maybe good clean educated Brits...but Mexicans?
Hey, your police may suck, but the people live in fear anyways.
Of course an open door policy would not ruin a country, though I do believe that a society has some right to choose who it wants. Though I also don't believe that being born in a country should entitle you to have life long citizenship.
And I am saying it is to hard to do. It's not like you'd let all the Mexicans in, Maybe good clean educated Brits...but Mexicans?
Originally posted by Kinneary
No. They don't. Most people who illegaly sneak into the US are never prosecuted or even looked for.Neither do I. If your parents are illegal aliens, you should not have citizenship.
Yes, Mexicans are allowed to immigrate into the country.
Haha, sure, they just live their live in wealth created by honest white Americans. They do not live in shit housing, working shit jobs. They are a parasite to you.
If your parents are legal citizens you should not have citizenship either. Let everyone earn their citizenship. Not jsut the people that didn't have the ****ing luck to be born in a desirable country.
You are saying if al,l those millions of immigrants had applied for citizenship they would have gotten it? s) Bullshit and b) well, then lets make them legal now, since they would have gotten in anyways. They already live and work there, which is more than some "US Americans" do.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Hey, your police may suck, but the people live in fear anyways.Of course an open door policy would not ruin a country, though I do believe that a society has some right to choose who it wants. Though I also don't believe that being born in a country should entitle you to have life long citizenship.
And I am saying it is to hard to do. It's not like you'd let all the Mexicans in, Maybe good clean educated Brits...but Mexicans?
And you know this how? Have you been to California lately?
You're a contradiction... First you say that anyone and everyone should be allowed to live where they want as being born in a certain country shouldn't entitle you to certain rights... Then you say that a society should have "some rights" to choose who it lets in. A country must pose laws and restrictions on who it lets in and people that want to come into a country need to follow those laws. Simple really.
Get it through your head, immigration IS legal. People come to the U.S. legally each and every single day and people are made citizens each and every day. You make it sound like the U.S. is like Germany circa 1939 and 'we' are selectively tossing people out who we deem "unfit". This is not the case.
Stop playing your games and turning this into an "anti-Mexican" thread, it's pathetic. Not a single person (in this thread at least) who is against illegal immigration is against it because of any "Mexian Agenda". They are against it because it is illegal.
Originally posted by Bardock42
You are saying if al,l those millions of immigrants had applied for citizenship they would have gotten it? s) Bullshit and b) well, then lets make them legal now, since they would have gotten in anyways. They already live and work there, which is more than some "US Americans" do.
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Originally posted by PVS
and as with everymexican hatingillegal immigration thread, the issue of prosecuting those companies which employ illegals, fueling demand, is conveniently avoided.DEY TUK R JOBS!!!
I agree, companies that willfully employ illegal immigrants so they can lower their payroll should be prosecuted.
Originally posted by Robtard
And you know this how? Have you been to California lately?You're a contradiction... First you say that anyone and everyone should be allowed to live where they want as being born in a certain country shouldn't entitle you to certain rights... Then you say that a society should have "some rights" to choose who it lets in. A country must pose laws and restrictions on who it lets in and people that want to come into a country need to follow those laws. Simple really.
Get it through your head, immigration IS legal. People come to the U.S. legally each and every single day and people are made citizens each and every day. You make it sound like the U.S. is like Germany circa 1939 and 'we' are selectively tossing people out who we deem "unfit". This is not the case.
Stop playing your games and turning this into an "anti-Mexican" thread, it's pathetic. Not a single person (in this thread at least) who is against illegal immigration is against it because of any "Mexian Agenda". They are against it because it is illegal.
No, to Maine. Lived with an Illegal Immigrant. Maybe they don't, but what's the point? People shouldn't have to live in fear, so if they don't that's just how it is supposed to be.
There are two things we have ti differentiate though. The world how I would like to have it and what is actually happening and possible. Of course it would be nice if everyone could just live in freedom and we wouldn't need countries or anything, that is not practicableöe as such so lets get close to it, right? Also a country does not have to put restrictions on who they let in...countries do it...they do not have to. And no, see they don't either, you have millions of illegal immigrants....they don't have to stick to the law...just if they are caught they get problems. And why should a country have such a policy since you people say that Illegal Immigrants can live in your country without fear of getting caught but at the same time if you'd open the boarder you would not be able to take it. Does that make any logical sense? I will tell you the answer, it's "no".
I do not deny that you have immigration that is legal. Get it through your head that I don't talk about how it is, but how it should be. The US is not like Nazi Germany, but you make it seem that because there are worse examples (Nazi Germany) everything must be fine in a country that is not just as bad.
It is also not an attack on the US. If you feel comfortable with it we can talk about Germany, my arguments would be the same. I just thought since you live in teh US, I used to live in the US, the topic is about the US and the US is the most important country of our time we should talk about it. But, hey, we can talk about France, thing is I know shit about France.
Originally posted by Robtard
And your point is?
That you folks need Illegal Immigrants.
Originally posted by Robtard
I agree, companies that willfully employ illegal immigrants so they can lower their payroll should be prosecuted.
Woah, wait a second..I have this genius idea. We make illegal immigrants legal, therfore giving them the same protection as good white Americans, which means they do not have to walk for a nickel and a piece of shit an hour which will make it possible for competition to arise again.