Mexican Deportation

Originally posted by PVS
sorry, i was unable to hack into the kmc server and add "no" to your post as you went on your rant immediately after asking your question...in the same post mind you.

a simple "whoops" would have done the trick.
or you can just cry about it i guess.

You missed my point...

I was saying you could have simply replied to my post of "Was that directed at me?" with a "No." That in turn would have rendered what I said afterwards (on the premise you had directed the stormfront response to me) irrelevant.

Whoops.... Let's move on.

Originally posted by PVS
read my post in "idiotic debating tactics" about supporting your argument with "evidence" from agenda based sites, kthxbye

:edit: then again maybe im mistaken, and its a sound tactic...thus we are all controlled by alien jew lizards.

No.

Read the facts.

The site may want you to see a point, but that doesn't make the cases that they present (fully backed by the corresponding stories of each crime by publication in that city's newspaper, or NBC news,etc...)

and LESS TRUE.

You are truly ignorant to ignore facts (like the poste FBI's most wanted list) simply because the facts are presented by somebody who has a viewpoint on the subject.

The point that they are bringing up is no less valid.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because for the most part they are not qualified to work as policemen, secretaries, nurses, school bus drivers, engineers, pharmacist etc. etc. etc. people who are generally qualified to work in those types of jobs generally do not cross the border or they do it legally. Do you honestly think 10,000 Mexican college grades are crossing the border every day? They work they labor intensive jobs simply because those are the kind of jobs they are able to perform. It has to do with the level of education, not ethnicity.

If that's true what would you lose by making them legal?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
No.

Read the facts.

deano? is that you?
site original sources instead of being a toolbox mouthpiece for this agenda site you seem to accept as 100% truth

Originally posted by PVS
deano? is that you?
site original sources instead of being a toolbox mouthpiece for this agenda site you seem to accept as 100% truth

Do you really want me to go through the whole list of victims and criminals, list each one and the corresponding official news source that cites the crime (most often killing or rape/killing) with a website link for you to check....

or can you not just skim the list?

Originally posted by Bardock42
If that's true what would you lose by making them legal?

Dude, we covered that... If we make the ones over here legal as a blanket law and ignore the fact that they have broken the law then we have no premise to have a border or an immigration law at all. Which you will say "That would be a great thing!" and I disagree for the reasons I have already stated.

But, I am somewhat for the worker program (what little I know about it) as I do not see the "Kick em all out" mindset to be logical, impractical or even attainable. But that is different than the immigration law debate.

Originally posted by Robtard
If by "sort of" you mean "not at all" then yes... I am against illegal immigration, period. But I do see the "throw em all out" view as being illogical as it is unattainable and America has molded itself in many cases to rely on the illegal immigrants already here. But that is a different subject and argument altogether.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I.e. you're willing to overlook illegal immigration to the extent that it benefits the U.S. economy, as I take it you would not be for the expulsion of all illegal immigrants if it were feasible.

Just what I am thinking. Hypocritical bullshit.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Do you really want me to go through the whole list of victims and criminals, list each one and the corresponding official news source that cites the crime (most often killing or rape/killing) with a website link for you to check....

or can you not just skim the list?

well, i guess since they say its all legit then it must be.

like with stormfront.org and rense.com

but you can go on tirelessly rebutting in defense of your false and fixed figures without any leads to tangible evidence. 👆

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I.e. you're willing to overlook illegal immigration to the extent that it benefits the U.S. economy, as I take it you would not be for the expulsion of all illegal immigrants if it were feasible.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Just what I am thinking. Hypocritical bullshit.

If you want to twist my words and meaning so they fit your biased views so be it. But I said no such thing.

Meh. That's how it came across. Though feel free to elaborate.

You don't think it's feasible to expel all immigrants. But under the hypothetical that it was, would you support it?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh. That's how it came across. Though feel free to elaborate.

You don't think it's feasible to expel all immigrants. But under the hypothetical that it was, would you support it?

First of all lets clarify illegal immigrants... No, I would not support the blanket expulsion of everyone that is living in America illegally if if were somehow possible. Some have integrated themselves into America and have made a life for themselves, deporting them would harm America and it would harm them, there are cases where you bend the rules for the overall greater good and you take some bad along with the good.

But, there needs to be control, a measure of checks and balances, it is getting out of hand and a line needs to be drawn before the 'point of no return' is crossed. America cannot take in every improvised person in the world or even every improvised person south of the border.

Originally posted by Bardock42
If that's true what would you lose by making them legal?

Then they can draw on the public welfare system for one (not that as illegals they don't anyway.)

Originally posted by Soleran
Then they can draw on the public welfare system for one (not that as illegals they don't anyway.)

So what would you lose? Since they do anyways?

Originally posted by Bardock42
So what would you lose? Since they do anyways?

There is no need to fuel the fire.

Originally posted by Robtard
First of all lets clarify illegal immigrants... No, I would not support the blanket expulsion of everyone that is living in America illegally if if were somehow possible. Some have integrated themselves into America and have made a life for themselves, deporting them would harm America and it would harm them, there are cases where you bend the rules for the overall greater good and you take some bad along with the good.

But, there needs to be control, a measure of checks and balances, it is getting out of hand and a line needs to be drawn before the 'point of no return' is crossed. America cannot take in every improvised person in the world or even every improvised person south of the border.

I.e. you're willing to overlook illegal immigration to the extent that it benefits the U.S. economy, as I take it you would not be for the expulsion of all illegal immigrants if it were feasible.

And how exactly that fits with:

"I am against illegal immigration, period."

🤨

Originally posted by Soleran
There is no need to fuel the fire.

Hmm, so, who has brainwashed you? I mean we just realized you wouldn't lose anything if they were made legal, they would live better and all Americans would have the chance to take jobs for fair wages. Some advantages, no disadvantages, but you are against it. Well, who brainwashed you?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hmm, so, who has brainwashed you? I mean we just realized you wouldn't lose anything if they were made legal, they would live better and all Americans would have the chance to take jobs for fair wages. Some advantages, no disadvantages, but you are against it. Well, who brainwashed you?

Who realized we wouldn't lose anything if they were made legal? There is a cost associated in the USA for citizens especially for citizens that require subsidization from the govt for earnings to medical care. Then there are language barriers and communication difficulties and there needs to be funding for schools for these new folks as well, etc etc

There is value to immigrants there is no doubt about that however take your rosie glasses off there is alot more than just the fair wages you are looking to discuss.

So in response to the brainwashing, I'm not. When did you become such a simpleton on issuses?

Probably around the time I realized that folks (mostly close minded, racist, homophobic, bigoted or sexist ones) make up shit to support their cases.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Probably around the time I realized that folks (mostly close minded, racist, homophobic, bigoted or sexist ones) make up shit to support their cases.

Yeah I hate those folks too!

Plus I dislike those that turn a blind eye to the other challanges that will occur with a population that comes in from a different culture, no money, no medical and language barriers that can essentially only earn minimum wage.