Darth Vader(suited) vs Darth Maul

.......and almost died in the process

And he just got into the suit. It hasn't even been several monthes, yet Vader goes and takes on 8 Jedi. Lets see Maul do that. Maul got himself occupied by two Jedi, do you think he can take on 8 at once and kill 4? And again, for the last time, Vader just got into the suit. By TESB, he mastered himself in his lifesuit and became very powerful.

and lifted a trooper "several feet?" now i know me and you weren't watching the same movie. cmon brother.

Seriously dawg, don't be lying:

As you can see in this picture, Vader lifts this trooper a good three or four feet in the air. And this is a soldier mind you, so he's not just some 150 pound punk. No, he must weight at least 180 pounds to 220 pounds. So Vader lifts the man with ONE HAND. Do you think Maul can do that? Maybe, but with two hands. Seriously, Vader can easily slam Maul back.

why don't you step away from your computer and measure 3-4 feet, 😂 you're making me laugh man

3.) Luke learned elements of Soresu from Kenobi and elements of Ataru from Yoda. This blends into a Shien-like form. But yes, Luke's main advantage was his mindset. He possesed a high degree of Force Valor. He never gave up, and this allowed him to last against Vader.

1.) Vader was trying to seduce Luke. He hoped to turn him. Vader knew Luke would lash out at him, but not at the high level he recieved. Luke totally caught Vader off guard, really bad. Vader is a calculating opponent, he knows what's he's doing most of the time (he learned his lesson after ROTS), but the treatment from Luke was surprisingly brutal. Had Maul been in that situation, his lightsaber would have been gone in SECONDS and he would have been dead pretty fast.

and learned a lesson? oviously not if he went after 8 jedi by himself, as a matter of fact Sidious sent the 501st to make sure he would be ok, and he wasnt.

And you're making me laugh by your pathetic rebuttals. Does it matter whether its two feet or four feet? The point was Vader has the strength to easily push your precious Maul. Do you honestly think Maul could lift the trooper with one hand? I'll be damned if you think so. Vader defeats Maul. Vader is stronger than Tyrannus or at least equal to him. Are you now going to say Maul > Tyrannus. LOL!

yeah, you made this one up

Wookiepedia: Force Valor was a light side Force power that increased the resolve, accuracy, and speed of one's self and one's allies. Tapping into the Force, a Jedi could increase the rate at which one's capacities functioned, allowing the body to move more quickly, strike more powerfully, and fight with improved accuracy. The more wise, charismatic, and skilled the caster was, the more profound the effects of Force Valor were.

Yoda used this ability to overcome the infirmities of old age, which was quite necessary for a practitioner of Form IV lightsaber combat. Luke Skywalker unknowingly used Force Valor in the Battle of Yavin.

As you can see, Luke knows Force Valor unknowingly. What else do you think let Luke survive that long? Sheer will, c'mon, that must be a lot of sheer will then.

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Hardly, it's called reasoning.

and learned a lesson? oviously not if he went after 8 jedi by himself, as a matter of fact Sidious sent the 501st to make sure he would be ok, and he wasnt.

Yeah, just got himself stuck into a suit and asked to take on 8 Jedi. I would hope you would have backup. Maul would have gotten killed in that scenario.

ok he went after them ON HIS OWN, Sidious sent them after him. meaning he thought he could do it himself. and dont quote wiki/wookie those anybody can put anythig on there, and has been known to hold some particualr bullshit info on there.

pathetic rebuttals? your pulling shit out of your ass, oh and did you measure 3-4 feet yet?

quick question: do you lift weights, or play any spors at all which reuqire physical contact? cuz we can settle this really quickly

pathetic rebuttals? your pulling shit out of your ass, oh and did you measure 3-4 feet yet?

Exactly my point. What kind of comeback is this? I don't need to measure three or four feet. I have already proven my point.

quick question: do you lift weights, or play any spors at all which reuqire physical contact? cuz we can settle this really quickly

I play soccer and tennis. I do play football, but I am not that good at it. Why do you care?

ok he went after them ON HIS OWN, Sidious sent them after him. meaning he thought he could do it himself. and dont quote wiki/wookie those anybody can put anythig on there, and has been known to hold some particualr bullshit info on there.

Yes, Wookiepedia is not 100% factual, but most of the things it has is correct. That Force Valor thing I showed you, do you deny it or what do you think Force Valor?

Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
Exactly my point. What kind of comeback is this? I don't need to measure three or four feet. I have already proven my point.

I play soccer and tennis. I do play football, but I am not that good at it. Why do you care?

I play Tennis as well! 😮

Edit: Man, that smilie is wrong. Why is it on that command? Argghhh :@

Edit 2: Arggh, that one didn't even work!

Yes, Wookiepedia is not 100% factual, but most of the things it has is correct. That Force Valor thing I showed you, do you deny it or what do you think Force Valor?

Exactly my point. What kind of comeback is this? I don't need to measure three or four feet. I have already proven my point.

I play soccer and tennis. I do play football, but I am not that good at it. Why do you care?

i mean look at anakin before the suit.

to Maul without tats 😛

but take the comparison seriously, his suit was to keep him alive, its only a burden, if before the suit he inst stronger, what makes you think now?

ok check this out, im 6'0, i bench 200lbs, and i weigh 173 lbs. I play basketball, one of my teammates benches 225, and is 6'4, he weighs about 190. He isnt that much stronger than i am, but he cant toss me around, or straight up lay me on my ass, and i sure as hell wouldnt let him either. Hes stonger than I am, but not to wheres its a Kicker compared to a Line backer.

Same scenario with Maul, (if this is even the case) IF Vader was stronger, he couldnt be that much stonger then Maul, to the point that he can lay him on his ass, and hes slow, Maul wouldnt just let it happen.

Quit being a darth maul fanboy. It have been proven that Vader is stronger than dooku.

Originally posted by Broke Beat
Same scenario with Maul, (if this is even the case) IF Vader was stronger, he couldnt be that much stonger then Maul, to the point that he can lay him on his ass, and hes slow, Maul wouldnt just let it happen.

Originally posted by Broke Beat
yeah it sounds cool, but where is that source credited it from? Wiki is a user maintained site, meaning anybody can put anything on there. I only remember Force Valor from that Kotor video game.

Originally posted by Broke Beat

ok, in a sport like football, you would have to be substanially larger than somone to completely truck somone like you guys are claiming Vader can. Vader is not that much larger than Maul, and muscular wise, i dont think hes stronger than Maul, maybe 50/50 but not stonger.

Originally posted by Broke Beat

but take the comparison seriously, his suit was to keep him alive, its only a burden, if before the suit he inst stronger, what makes you think now?

You are gonna get owned again

Why thank you for taking over Kadesh while I was absent, 🙂

But just a question Broke Beast, do you think just because of Maul's speed Vader loses?

Your welcome 😉

Quit being a darth maul fanboy. It have been proven that Vader is stronger than dooku.

Yea maintaned by people who respect canon policy

"Size matters not, the only difference is in your mind"

You forget that anakin couldnt do the things vader did in his suit 19 years later, hurling palpatine to his death, killing jedis with his BARE HANDS. killing an animal 3 TIMES THE SIZE of him with his FISTS

Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
Why thank you for taking over Kadesh while I was absent, 🙂

But just a question Broke Beast, do you think just because of Maul's speed Vader loses?

This is just my opinion im not saying its law, or it couldnt go any other way. its just what i THINK would happen if they fought without using the force. no need to get bent out of shape about it, you really dont have to agree with me, i dont really give a shit, its just Star Wars.

Well, Vader had just got done getting his ass stomped by his son. He'd lost a hand. He picked up the Emperor straight off the ground, with one hand, put him over his head, and dropped his ass down a reactor shaft.

one hand and the little stub he had left of the other one

Originally posted by Broke Beat
one hand and the little stub he had left of the other one

He had no stub. He had a cauterized wrist.

whatever you want to call it, he used to arms

ohh im a fanboy now? becuase im defending my opinon, is it just cuz i dont agree with you? Proven? as in its a bondafide fact? its written in stone somewhere

Well, because we feel that you are a Maul fanboy because you are defending him against Vader, who's far superior.

ohh and you know these people?

No, but it seems likely. I don't see Wookiepedia posting bullshit, except for maybe a couple of articles.

that and the way he fights. His style of combat is something i dont think vader can keep up with. he uses martial arts in his fighting, hes strong and quick, his form is called Juyo, where they came up with that though i dont know. Comapring them in movie Duels, Maul seems like the stonger dueler to me. How i see Vader fighting Maul is similar to qui-gon against Maul. ecept vader would last much longer.

Aye, but Vader has mastered Djem So. His strength along with the power of Djem So will drive Maul till his saber breaks and so forth from there.

This is just my opinion im not saying its law, or it couldnt go any other way. its just what i THINK would happen if they fought without using the force. no need to get bent out of shape about it, you really dont have to agree with me, i dont really give a shit, its just Star Wars.

Indeed, but note that most people are going to disagree with you. A high majority of this forum rate Vader equal or better than Tyrannus, who can outclass Maul.