Originally posted by Alfheim15 new mutants per locus i.e. nucleotide out of the 3 billion in the human genome in a given generation. It's called genetic variation. All humans in the real world are technically mutants.
15 out of 6 billion....thats not alot im saying that all humans in the MU are mutants.
(NB I don't remember population genetics well this may be an over- or under-estimate.)
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Touche. I think people would probably still buy Dead-Wolverine or Dead-Batman.
lol
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The bible is nothing more than a collection of tale's ... pretty bad once too.
Must........ resist urge .........to.......... debate with such a stupid statement............
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Every human is a mutation as well as any living creature ...
Evolution theory ...
Mutation --> variation --> selection --> evolutionDon't tell me you read the creation theory crap in school ...
The bible is nothing more than a collection of tale's ... pretty bad once too.
Yes but thats not the same as being genetically altered by the Celestials.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
15 new mutants per locus i.e. nucleotide out of the 3 billion in the human genome in a given generation. It's called genetic variation. All humans in the real world are technically mutants.(NB I don't remember population genetics well this may be an over- or under-estimate.)
Sorry you're language is very technical, I misunderstand you alot. Yes but again there seems to be mutation and theres mutation. Its like saying all people are Africans because our ancestors descended from Africa but more specifically we are Asian, European etc. I think I can understand what you're saying and you are not incorrect but its like you have used the term mutation in a way which can inclulde everything.
Again all human beings can be considered to be mutants but obvously there is still a reason why people use the term mutate because there must be some more extreme versions. Again human beings in the Mu were genetically altered to become human beings this therefore implies that what the Celestials did was an extreme form of muation because human beings would not have been created, also mutation in the MU equal super powers.
Another way of looking at is this, if you had a real world human analysed by Master Mold he probably would not detect anything.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well if mutation gives you powers and the human race is a [B]mutant race that would explain it. Why do you think Master Mold flipped because in his world mutated genes have the potential to give you super powers. [/B]
But it doesn't explain it, because 99% of the comic humans are not different from us in strength or speed or other things.
Superheroes and villains do the stuff because writing, not because genetics.
Originally posted by AlfheimThe end result for the vast vast majority of the population is exactly the same in both comic and real world. Ordinary humans.
Again human beings in the Mu were genetically altered to become human beings this therefore implies that what the Celestials did was an extreme form of muation because human beings would not have been created, also mutation in the MU equal super powers.Another way of looking at is this, if you had a real world human analysed by Master Mold he probably would not detect anything.
Mutation does not automatically equate to superpowers. Mutation is just variation. Certain mutations or mutagens in the MU grant superpowers, such as the X-gene or exposure to the Terrigen Mists.
True to following it's programming to a logical conclusion yes, Master Mold probably would kill all humans if it existed in the real world.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But it doesn't explain it, because 99% of the comic humans are not different from us in strength or speed or other things.
it does because you're average human being if he trains hard enough can:
Dodge bullets and lasers, people like Shin Kuei, Shang Chi etc
Can have mental powers Dr Doom, Moondragon
Can sense pressure points, Mantis
You're average comic human has for more potential.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The end result for the vast vast majority of the population is exactly the same in both comic and real world. Ordinary humans.
In Marvel 616 there are a majority of human beings not a vast majority. The mutant race including altered humans implies that mutants are a big minority.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Mutation does not automatically equate to superpowers. Mutation is just variation. Certain mutations or mutagens in the MU grant superpowers, such as the X-gene or exposure to the Terrigen Mists.
Yes but what im saying is that the mutation in all human beings gives them superhuman potential
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
True to following it's programming to a logical conclusion yes, Master Mold probably would kill all humans if it existed in the real world.
No he would not because mutation in the real world does not lead to superhuman powers. Mutation in the MU does therefore this implies that mutation in the MU is more extreme than in the real world. Im sure Master Mold was already aware that human beings were mutants but what freaked him out was that they all had the potential for superhuman powers.
Originally posted by willRules
✅ Too much is blamed on genetics these days. Apparently there is a bullying gene now as well ✅
Then these researches must definitely have the stupid gene.
Originally posted by AlfheimDodge bullets and lasers, people like Shin Kuei, Shang Chi etc
Martial Arts are overblown in comics , we all know it.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Can have mental powers Dr Doom, Moondragon
Aliens.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Can sense pressure points, Mantis
Meh thats a basic knowledge of the human anatomy and some kind of external (possibly Chi) effect.
Originally posted by Alfheim
it does because you're average human being if he trains hard enough can:Dodge bullets and lasers, people like Shin Kuei, Shang Chi etc
Can have mental powers Dr Doom, Moondragon
Can sense pressure points, MantisYou're average comic human has for more potential.
None of those are average humans. They are comic book characters.
How would you explain DC Universe?
Same thing, writer's freedom. Without that, comics would be like this:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2664/slmsm01oroboros015pj1.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9985/slmsm01oroboros017im7.jpg
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
None of those are average humans. They are comic book characters.
Huh? Look all I know is that those characters are humans and they did not gain their abilities by genetic manipulation they learn't their powers. Since they are human this also implies that another average MU human if he trains hard enough can do the same
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
How would you explain DC Universe?
Apparently the white martians did something similar to human beings in the DC universe, but am I talking about the DC universe or the Marvel one? I made this thread to stick up for the human race.
If there genes aint proper said em back to Genosha! Well thats what I say.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Huh? Look all I know is that those characters are humans and they did not gain their abilities by genetic manipulation they learn't their powers. Since they are human this also implies that another average MU human [B] if he trains hard enough can do the same[/B]
They trained to that point, but that has nothing to do with their genetics...no comics have ever even slightly implied it.
Are you honestly implying that "Generic Fat Crook #382" that Spider-Man beats on panel 6 of page 7 is any different from us?
Originally posted by Alfheim
Apparently the white martians did something similar to human beings in the DC universe, but am I talking about the DC universe or the Marvel one? I made this thread to stick up for the human race.If there genes aint proper said em back to Genosha! Well thats what I say.
Because Marvel humans are not the only human level characters who do inhuman stuff. It's just the result of writer's freedom.
Not genetics.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
They trained to that point, but that has nothing to do with their genetics...no comics have ever even slightly implied it.Are you honestly implying that "Generic Fat Crook #382" that Spider-Man beats on panel 6 of page 7 is any different from us?
Because Marvel humans are not the only human level characters who do inhuman stuff. It's just the result of writer's freedom.
Not genetics.
You have to look at my whole argument its not just about what The Celestials did its Master Molds reaction when he analysed normal human beings. Master Mold freaked the **** out. This is obvoulsy due to what The Celestials did.
